0sum, (awesome)& Carleas,(car lease)
The awareness of implosion is at hand, when the inverse psychology of intentions will be discovered, through the translation, toward ‘clearity & transparency’.~ as more then merely trying to breach party differences.
pls.don’t hit an innocent bystander.
They have no Right, and under no law, to base their case on an anonymous “Whistleblower”.
Due to the nature and severity of this prosecution, the Whistleblower must now be named and outed, because Congress is trying to impeach the duly and fairly elected President of the United States.
There is no “Whistleblower” protection or anonymity, when you try to overthrow the US Government.
A cornerstone of US Law, is a Right to face your accusers. This is no custody battle. These are hearings to impeach the President. It is unconstitutional, to protect the hypothetical “Whistleblower”, now.
Except the procedure of handling the protection of whistle blowers has been fairly assumed to be proper, especially the fear of inter intelligence agency involvement.
Remember the Republican cornerstone of defense is lack of transparency through due process.
They would be biting themselves.in the leg. They just brought it up , well knowing, that .
While I think Whistleblower laws are good for the whole, usually, this is an exceptional case.
There is no higher Office in the United States. So, if you want to remove a duly and fairly elected President of the United States, then you cannot do so under the pretense of anonymity. You have to show your face. The people have this Right. There is no constitutional law that protects a “whistleblower”, in this case, in an Impeachment, nor should there be.
Since the Dems want to go down this route, it’s time to give it up. Out the Whistleblower, now, and the nation can confront any accusation, and see it all for what it is.
The People have that Right. I have that Right. You have that Right. The entire country has the Right to see and know this Accuser, trying to overthrow the Democracy.
If the Demonrats want to Censure the President, or impose some type of penalty, then the Whistleblower can stay anonymous.
But if the Demonrats want to oust a duly-elected President, then the Whistleblower cannot stay anonymous. That is unjust and unconstitutional.
There is no “Whistleblower” protection, when you’re trying to impeach the sitting President.
Why not? What precedent are you basing this claim on? What law?
Yeah, that’s what impeachment and removal are for.
Trump is not the government. There are three coequal branches, Trump is the head of one of them, and the rules for succession for that position are established. One of the rules of succession is that Congress can impeach and remove a sitting President.
The 6th amendment, which establishes that right, begins “In all criminal prosecutions…”. This is not a criminal prosecution.
Moreover, even if this were a criminal prosecution, the right to confront witnesses would be afforded during the trial, i.e. after impeachment, and it would only extend to witnesses whose testimony is being relied upon in reaching a decision, i.e. those whose testimony is presented to the jury. Since a dozen people have come forward to describe the actions at issue, and Trump himself has released a memo corroborating the charges, the Whistleblower’s testimony need not be presented or relied on in order to conclude that Trump did what he’s being accused of doing.
Impeachment is a Criminal prosecution.
We, The People, are the Government. The People elected Trump for President. Congress is trying to remove the President. So, who is the Government, the People? Or Congress? Answer: The People, are still the Government. Because Congress is trying to, unjustly, unfairly, without Due Process, illegally, trying to overrule The People, and the votes of the country, measures must be taken. The People have Rights, to face accusers. The basis of this “Impeachment”, is founded on the “anonymous whistleblower”. Because this is a Criminal prosecution, The President, and all those who voted for him, The People, have a constitutional right to face this accusation.
Because the corrupt Democrats have brought the case forward, the “Whistleblower” must be exposed.
You cannot try to impeach and remove the US President under the condition of Anonymity. Has the world gone Insane??? Yes, yes it has.
I honestly believed Democrats would be too cowardly to push forward with something so stupid, but they have. And now that the impeachment is official, this “Whistleblower” is doomed. You cannot impeach the sitting US President, on the basis of anonymity and ‘immunity’. Bullshit! Do you even begin to know, how Unjust that is? This is a violation of the Constitution. Not only is it Unethical, but it’s Unconstitutional.
It’s not only an assault against the President, it’s an assault and insult to the people of this country.
If you want to impeach the US President, you better have the balls to come out and publicly state the accusations you-yourself.
This Whistleblower must now be exposed, because to further protect “anonymity”, is a threat against the fabric of this country, and our Constitutional laws.
Let me restate, simply:
If you want to Impeach the sitting US President, duly and fairly-elected, then you must not hide anonymously. You are required to state, publicly, the crime. And you must face the American people. ALL OF US, own this Right. This is not simply a trial against Trump. It’s a trial against the country. And this level of Corruption, must now pay a steep price. Democrats must face the penalty of such empty accusations.
Not it isn’t.
Impeachment is the decision to have a trial at all, it is not the trial. Even among civilians, a Grand Jury is often held secretly prior to a trial, and the subject of a Grand Jury has no right to confront those witnesses.
The trial that impeachment starts is expressly limited by the Constitution to exclude any criminal penalties, it is solely about removal from office:
The people elected Congress too. And the people elected the representatives who ratified the Constitution, which provides for the removal of an elected President.
The Whistleblower is not impeaching the President. The House of Representatives is, based on interviews with dozens of named witnesses, many of whom will testify publicly prior to impeachment. Once he is impeached, the President will be tried, not by the Whistleblower, but by the Senate. We don’t know what testimony will be presented during that trial. I would be surprised if the original Whistleblower complaint were used, because there’s so much other evidence available, but if it were relied upon, and Trump asked to be confronted with his accuser, then you might have a point. As it stands, you have a bunch of political talking points that don’t reflect Constitutional law.
But what if intelligence inter-agency issues involve many departments where releasing identity would / could entail more than just the exposure of operatives, but could impinge on national secret international operations, by virtue of those identified?
It doesn’t matter.
This is the forced removal of the US President. Imagine if Trump had 75% of the nation vote for him, instead of 51%. Removing the President, IF HE COMMITTED NO CRIME, is an assault against those who voted for him. It’s an assault against Democracy.
So, was there a crime committed or not? It’s basic common sense, and perhaps the core of Western Law, that people have the Right to face their accusers in Court. Because Democrats have brought it to court, which was their choice, the President, and more importantly the People, all of us, now have the Right to face that accuser as well.
If anonymity was/is so important, then this should not have gone to Impeachment trial. The case should not have depended on this witness and accusation. And it should have remained as a legal Censure. Now that it is a criminal proceeding, there is no chance, that this hypothetical whistleblower can or should or will remain anonymous. To further protect “anonymity” is an insult and threat to the American people.
The People deserve to face this accuser, and have the Right, and now the matter comes to a head, because Democrats wanted this. They pushed for it. Now it’s time to push back.
National Security is more at risk to keep this “anonymous whistleblower” secret, than it is to expose, and reveal a chain of intelligence agents.
And now, if they are a chain of intelligence agents, the Partisanship involved, is a form of government corruption.
Again, because this is now a Criminal prosecution, against the Democratically-elected President of the United States, all bets are off.
You must either accuse him of a crime, or squash it. But the Democrats moved forward, and now there is no going back.
Urwrong, please, read about the Constitutional law to which you’re appealing. Trump hasn’t been impeached, so there is currently no trial. There aren’t even articles of impeachment, so we don’t even know what the formal accusation is. And impeachment and removal are two different things, akin to the difference between being indicted and convicted. When he is impeached, as he likely will be, the trial won’t be held in court, it will be held in Senate and overseen by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. If he’s removed, he won’t go to jail. He doesn’t need to have committed any crime for which he could go to jail, because impeachment is for “high crimes and misdemeanors”, which are abuses of power and not just Big Bad Crimes.
Impeachment and removal is a remedy included in the Constitution in order to remove elected officials, it is literally the law governing how elected officials are removed from their elected positions.
The trial is right now.
It’s unfortunate that you and many others are not paying attention.
The metaphorical trial may be right now, but the literal trial will be in Senate following impeachment in the House.
If everything you’re saying has been metaphorical, you should make that clear.
The literal trial is right now. The whole nation, and world, sees and knows this.
The proceedings now are a ‘trial’ in the same way that someone can be ‘tried in the press’, i.e. metaphorically. That’s basically what’s happening now: Democrats are trying to move public opinion by airing as much of the evidence in as much detail as possible for as long as possible to convince the public, so that when the trial starts in the Senate, public pressure will be on Republican Senators to remove Trump from office.
The American people deserve to cut the bullshit.
We deserve and have the Right to face this “anonymous whistleblower” accuser. State the crime, state the accusation, and do it publicly, before the Nation. Or you have no case, Period. That’s the end of it. Everything else is a waste of our time, money, energy, and moral legitimacy. Everything more, is an assault and insult to our nation, our people, our way-of-life, and our government.
Congress has Rights to process.
Democrats have demonstrated no Right to process. This is unprecedented in the method of Impeachment. No impeachment, ever before, has been this blatantly corrupt.
There are countless severe ramifications to follow this abuse of power and corruption. You seem to be missing the bigger picture.