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Have you listened to these lectures … youtube.com/watch?v=drjprSUDMiM … can’t vouch for the English captions.
Let me share the last two lines according to the translation in my book:
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The “he” refers to the best man … ergo: the best person
The above statement is antithetical to the world we live in. The statement implies there are few … if any … best persons in the world … competition is pervasive … in our schools … in our churches … in our political systems … in commerce and so on.
Though I must share that my local market observations indicate very little competition among the peasant vendors … and many sell the same stuff … seems they are content to let the buyers move about as they wish and touch and smell whatever they wish … it really is quite extraordinary.
Surely serious thinkers can visualize the merit of a world with little or no competition. Lazy thinkers would suggest in the absence of competition we would have little or no progress in any discipline … hogwash!!
IMO Amorphos is a serious thinker … he wrote in another OP
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How many roads would be closed if competition was virtually eliminated?
Two hypothetical scenarios:
Scenario One
A charismatic leader surfaces on the international scene … issues a two page communique to all people in the world 7 billion plus people.
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Scenario Two
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And the beat goes on, look what happens to charismatic people: the history full of accounts of their assasinations, murder, suicide, crucifixion.
The wise ones like Buddha are smart enough to
duplicate themselves into myriad bodshivatta, and buddhas so as to make themselves invisible. They are now, and then were egoless. Western civilization has to empty out which presents a huge problem for them in accountability, whereas in the East, no account of who they ever were, there is nothing to empty out there.
Here, it presents a dangerous situation, paradoxical and self destructive in others’ estimation.
But Buddhism can’t make it here, didn’t Zen has a chance if strictly adhered to.
Amorphos is one of the more intelligent people here. However I am more impressed by his discussion of consciousness than the quote you list here. The ephiphany you listed I discovered around the age of 4, it’s like 2+2=4, it’s really nothing advanced. And that is what I mean by humanity being 5000 years behind me…they can’t even understand that criminals are people just like you and me.
If someone kills 5000 people, people say how evil and deranged the person is, yet people vote for politicians that carpet bomb civilians like no tommorow and don’t even bat an eye. It’s a sick and sad world
If you kill one you are a murderer, if you kill 100 you are a loon, but if you kill 1000 you are a soldier and 1 million they call you Yahweh.
Stalin said, ‘To kill one man is a tragedy, but to kill a million men is a statistic’. Therefore his godly claims fit your description.
There’s your problem.
Yeah, but what did they actually know about intent, public satisfaction, diplomacy, etc.?
Thanks, I hope I find some relief from my sinus condition too.
When I’m strict with my diet and lifestyle I’m able to significantly improve it.
If you want to get paranormal about it, deja vu could be past life experiences that’re similar to present life experiences (sorry if someones brought that up already).
At the other end of the spectrum, it could just be a brain malfunction.
The chemicals that give you a sense of familiarity accidentally get dumped into your brain at an inappropriate time, like when you’ve done something for the very first time.
There’s no reason for this accident, it’s not that you’ve dreamt about a similar event before, or predicted it, or a partly forgotten memory, your brain just randomly got flooded with familiarity chemicals giving you a false sense of having been through something you’ve never been through before, because brains can be like that, they can just totally malfunction for no reason once in a while, like a glitch.
Now we are on to something - I appreciate that - this will allow me to formulate something more substantial relating back to the “Paradox of the sensed” including some paranormal stuff. Brain malfunction is very likely. But it is your last paragraph that gives me the insight.
I wonder whether it has anything to do with histamines in food.
I remember about 10 years back we rode into some beach town area in Massachusetts. I can’t even recall the name of the place now.
I love the beach and the ocean. It was summer. I was relaxed and content. But it couldn’t have been or could it have been that but who knows? It might have been that with a part of something more. I’m a skeptic.
This feeling came over me all of a sudden. I had never experienced it before. I see many things as being beautiful but the sudden sight of this area translated into something beyond the beautiful. It really was a feeling or a sense of being swept away by the knowledge of “having been there before” even though I knew I hadn’t ever been there. It was like some strange familiar sensation, like having come home. It was so familiar and yet on a higher consciousness level, I knew I hadn’t been there. It was a really profound moment and sensation. Normally beauty doesn’t leave me disturbed but it wasn’t a negative disturbance-it was just some kind emotional upheaval. I know that sounds weird. Shivers…
I realize that perhaps at times we may have this experience because our brains and our minds pick up on things which we observe in a book, magazine, tv program ~~ whatever ~~ or pick on things which we hear but our conscious level doesn’t really see or hear them at all. They are stored in a part of our brain until something comes along and acts as a catylyst or a trigger. Who knows but that perhaps that was the reason I had that experience. Coming face to face with the physical reality of it - kind of like a mind meld lol - as opposed to just some unconscious click of the camera and unremembered image.
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Wow I didn’t think you rated me lol
That’s what the quote also meant.
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Have you ever wondered if people leave an imprint upon the fabric of reality? How can something occur without doing that? Well I suppose physicists would disagree, but if the original thingness of existence is the philosophers stone, then everything is making an impact upon it - that’s how it all works, info tells the stone what it wants etc. ….sry, in short what I mean is that you could have been there before and re-experienced a previous experience, or even someone else’s experience.
its all imprints.
I turn 42 today - I have to go and help a friend dig a trench to run data and power - so I am going to be absent for around 6 - 12 hours. I have read all the posts and will be back to respond. I hope you all have the type of day that you enjoy.
See you all soon.
@ Arcturus Descending - thanks for sharing your experience - I found it most interesting.
This sounds like a real “WOW” moment but an internal “wow” if that makes sense. I enjoy these types of sensations - I have some of the beauty ones that are not associated with vu but instead my other senses including higher ones. It is really difficult to explain. Your experience transported me to a different time and place.
I have had this before - a very strong feeling of it.
Another wow moment - I have these memories from my childhood that are so much brighter than that of other memories - vivid. What you explain is certainly a paradox of some sort. I like the way you wrote that. Disturbed by beauty - not negative - rather an emotional upheaval.
Very deep.
Thanks again.
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Even after something dies it has left its impact on the fabric of reality. Like a footprint in the sand. Maybe “its” imprint gets washed away over time but its impact would still remain diluted among the remaining fabric - maybe I am crazy but it makes sense to me.
I have wondered whether people leave an imprint upon the fabric of reality - in fact I have a theory about that - in my giant theory basket. I am sure physics would disagree on a lot of stuff. Philosophers Stone - if my memory serves me - as is above so it is below - or something along those lines - I know there is more to it than that. You seem to have covered a lot of ground Amorphos. I must admit it tempts my brain to start thinking about past lives and all that.
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The following words were written mid 19th century by George Sand (pen name)
see any “imprints” ???
The unsensed versus the sensed. When the two come together as a collision of the “chaotic infinity” versus the internal conscious space. The “chaotic infinity” being the unsensed - an infinity of potentially “sensible” and “not sensible” impressions from the ultimate reality. When something “sensible” already exists as a part of our conscious space and some new sensible impression is plucked from the “chaotic infinity” a collision happens. Something magnetic; something resonating and when these two impressions overlap a “sense paradox” happens. This “sense paradox” presents itself in the form of a strong feeling.
That feeling people describe when they find their soulmate. That feeling of Déjà vu. Experiences of feelings discussed in this thread . . . I am not sure how far this can be extended but I imagine quite a way.