Why God is inherently right

Why is your normal route blocked? I’m not getting your analogy.

Once you realize, you realize, that your thoughts and behaviors are self-defeating, why would you wait on a radio announcer to change direction?

I’m just saying that sometimes it’s enough to say: Ah, I should do that, not this. And then let it go. You don’t have to worry that you might not carry through, that you might not make the grade. The analogy to the alternate route was that usually, all you have to do is tell yourself: okay, I just heard on the radio that I have to take the alternate route. Gonna do it. Done. ← Then you let the thought go. And when you get to the intersection to take the alternate route, you just do it (probably unconsciously, without try, without worrying that you’re gonna fail).

The analogy is about how little there is for the conscious mind to do and that the rest is handled by the unconscious.

tom,

The Noosphere would be nothing more than Man finally recognizing his non-biological consciousness which is supported by the brain and soul “biology” of God, The Creator. I do find CERN disturbing in their trying to destroy God. Mankind with his soul implant cannot survive beyond God’s grace. We are truly an ungrateful lot, why he puts up with all of us is beyond me.

Woah! Are you a conscious being or not?

That was for you Gibbubble.

WD … IMHO your description of Noosphere is better suited to another of Teilhard’s theories known as the Omega Point. In a nutshell, when humanity reaches the Omega point we will no longer require intermediaries … communication for all individuals will be one on one with God. As far as I know the authors of the Noosphere concept do not present it as being God.

Cern is not the first … countless others … individuals, philosophers, corporations, religions and so on and so on. Seems this type of activity is necessary to draw humanity to God. IMHO we must remind ourselves that science is from God as well … at some point science will converge with theology, philosophy and so on and so on.

In pantheism!

tom wrote

I disagree. Science distracts and separates Man from God. God permits science, which is a house of cards that he allows to stand, but science is not of God’s nature, more of Satan’s, playing on human curiosity to steer Man farther from God. Why would God want for us to destroy our environment with the likes of science unless it’s about reaping time?

Really, Wendy? Science from Satan? I can see your point applying to technology–man’s perversion of nature–but science itself is about learning.

Have you ever read Roger Bacon?

In my pantheistic view, I do Bacon one better–I say science is not just the study of God’s creation (the fruits of which help us to know God better), but the study of God himself.

To me, the scientific method is the language of God. It is the art of asking God questions and receiving His answers. When a scientist conjures up a hypothesis, and conducts an experiment to test it out, he is interfacing with God directly. This is a Q&A session with God. The experiment is a question: am I right? Is my hypothesis correct? The results of the experiment are God’s answer: yay or nay.

(And now with particle physics, I think God is telling us: yay, that’s another way of saying what I’ve been telling you all along).

What are your thoughts on that, Wendy?

The point of self knowledge is not to take responsibility. The point is to recognize and understand your actions, your reactions and your feelings.

In that context, you are neither good nor bad. Neither saintly nor evil. Neither responsible nor irresponsible.

Phyllo, what voice do you listen to that tells you the reasons for your actions and feelings? Does the conscience have a say?

Wd … Phyllo … Gib

My arrogance has revealed it’s ugly ‘face’ … yet again!

I want people to ‘see’ what I ‘see’ and I’m in a hurry to get there.

I apologize … please forgive me.

I don’t think that conscience has a place in self-knowledge. You might perform an action for any number of reasons but conscience is a wrapper around some other motivations. You need to see the real motivation.

Fear is a big motivator… but fear of what exactly?

Canadian, eh?

Why bother recognizing diddly-squat if not to take actions on what you’ve learned in ernest? You don’t need a soul to be a passenger, only need a soul to be a driver.

Once you know who/what you are, then you can decide on who/what you want to be.

Science is about creating more harm than good. Science is about polluting the mind, the body, the world and beyond. The scientific language is not that of God, for God speaks with his emotions to ours. Satan is the thinker who seeds Man with his corrupt ideas so Man can feel powerful at first and empty nearer death. The disillusionment of Man is Satan’s playground.

So you understand yourself and act responsibly, Phyllo?

I’m pretty sure that it is not about that at all.

And if you were to do an evaluation of good results and harmful results coming from science and technology, the good would dominate.

Can you not “see” the world around you? You prefer the corruption, the pollution?

I understand parts of me. It’s a work in process.

Am I supposed to act responsibly? What happens if I don’t?