Show me a video clip of Trump admitting that he asked any country to investigate Biden, an admission of having done it.
Other than your answers becoming more and more childish, you don’t seem to care about the accuracy, being satisfied with the 6 million figure and that is to be expected because that is what you have been taught without the appropriate evidence. Most countries didn’t conduct any census in the 1920/30s. Most didn’t start conducting censuses until the 1960’s or later. No shit, how’d they sift through what doesn’t even exist?
I’ll look into the other aspects that you claim to be evidence, but already what you have been claiming is not holding up to basic scrutiny.
as I have made clear on many, many occasions, I lack
any type of technical ability, so I am unable to post such a video,
but on Oct 3 in a press briefing, this question was asked of
IQ45…
Question: Mr. President, what exactly did you hope Zelensky
would do about the Biden’s after your phone call? Exactly?
Trump: well, I would think that, if they were honest about it,
they start a major investigation into the Biden’s…Its a very simple
answer.
and in that very same press briefing, IQ45 ask for China to investigate
the Biden’s…
I found it on youtube for oct, 3… I just don’t know how to post it here…
and that folks is a confession…I ask for an investigation into the Biden’s…
Kropotkin
A fact. Only, in fact, the denizen’s of Trumpword rejoin, he asked that only because he had a genuine concern about corruption in Ukraine; and he sincerely believed Biden was a part of that.
Then you come back with facts that dispute this and they with their own to dispute that.
And, again, even if the other side were to actually agree that your facts, uh, trump theirs, they can then argue that in this case the end [keeping America white, making the rich even richer etc.] justifies any means.
Facts here are always just existential pawns in the political prejudice game.
Yes I do care about the accuracy.
“They made up numbers” isn’t an argument and isn’t evidence that the numbers are wrong.
Which countries?
If such a video is provided, then you would support impeaching Trump?
K: I agree that facts are often the pawns of a political game… but we have the problem
of timing… in other words, IQ45 has not mentioned corruption before… if one has
an interest in corruption and eliminating corruption, you should probably mention it
before, before it become politically convenient for one to mention it…in other words,
has IQ45 worried about or mentioned corruption before Biden became his top rival?
the answer is clear…….IQ45 hasn’t mentioned corruption before it became
a political answer to a problem…….and since then, has he mentioned or
referred to corruption in any other country beside the Ukraine?
no, he hasn’t… so his interest in corruption is limited to the Biden’s
and the Ukraine… rather limited interest in corruption if he is truly
interested in corruption……
and just so it is clear, the aid that everyone mentions,
was based upon the Ukraine meeting certain anti-corruption
standards which the state department and the congress said
they met…this so called corruption of the Ukraine was already
answered by the State department in its meeting of
standards already met…
so, IQ45 cherry picked which standards of corruption he wanted
to investigate… not the standards already met by Ukraine
as so far as anti-corruption standards as certified by the state
department and congress…
every single argument offered by IQ45 and his supporters
has been already been factored in…overall, he has no
interest in corruption as evidence by him ever referring to
corruption in any other country and corruption in the Ukraine
having been covered by both the state department and congress
as meeting the standards set to receive the aid in question…
so it becomes a political question of investigating the Biden’s based
on his being a top political rival and not based on corruption…
Kropotkin
YouTube… oct 3, 2019… it is easy enough to look at… even with
my very limited skills, I found it…you can to… if you were to be honest
with yourself or us…
Kropotkin
Oh well, my point was completely wasted here. 
Does Trump calling for “Draining the swamp in Washington” not speak to ending corruption, come on? That has been his motto, anti corruption, since he campaigned. Trump point blank called Hillary Clinton out on her corruption and finished by threatening to have her arrested.
See how surreal this can all get?!! =D>
K: I agree that facts are often the pawns of a political game… but we have the problem
of timing… in other words, IQ45 has not mentioned corruption before… if one has
an interest in corruption and eliminating corruption, you should probably mention it
before, before it become politically convenient for one to mention it…in other words,
has IQ45 worried about or mentioned corruption before Biden became his top rival?
I: Oh well, my point was completely wasted here.
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K: I got your point, but I decided to
play it straight… facts are convenient footballs
to be bounced around as needed in any argument…
but enough facts, can lead one to a relatively
secure position regarding facts…I myself have argued
against facts being a mean of coming to a conclusion…
but that doesn’t mean we can safely ignore facts when
its convenient… we must have facts or our entire world
become a place where only opinions count and facts have
no meaning…and that is a sad world indeed…
oh yah, it is the world of IQ45 and his followers…
where facts can be ignored whenever they don’t lead
to the conclusions you want… ignore facts at your own peril…
Kropotkin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Q67tAUiMg
A public recommendation calling for an investigation is Trump admitting to having forced the issue in private? Is that your evidence?
If he had forced it in private, why would he call for it publically?
K: yes, it can be quite surreal… but you can’t expect windy or any other
slave to Trumpism to get the point… the surrealism of it all…
that is why as a point, I avoid these political discussions whenever
I can… I mostly post on my understanding of today, time and space thread…
to avoid this nonsense…but occasionally, some post is so out of line and
so partisan that I dip into it… and every single time, I wind up regretting it…
Kropotkin
K: you can lead a horse to the water but you can’t make them drink…
Kropotkin
I really didn’t know that Trump had publicly asked for investigations to occur and it was my fault for not being more precise with my wording about what needed to be in the video.
I will admit that the public announcement to investigate Biden was in poor taste because of its timing. A real investigation should have been conducted before Biden announced his candidacy. However, Trump’s speech was not any more illegal than any candidate saying anything publicly about another candidate. To speak publicly about another candidate is not illegal. For instance, candidate Steyer saying that Trump is a liar, a fraud, and a business failure. Or when Trump said that Hillary had bleached her server illegally.
Trump did not illegally force Ukraine’s President or any Ukraine officers to investigate Biden, but if he did I would definitely be more supportive of his impeachment.
Is congress within its’ rights to subpoena all personal information about anybody? Or does there have to be sufficient reasoning for it? Like does a court have to order it or is it up to the whims of Congress what they request?
K: first things last: let us say, congress subpoenas Al Capone for his information…
he would of course complain that it is private, personal information and outside
of government intervention…but he would have appeared to have committed
crimes… but without that information, you can’t prove it… thus we cannot, under
your reasoning, subpoena Capone because it is a “whim” of congress…
I bring this up because it was evasion of taxes that brought Capone down…
not any thing else he did…
now the next point, he wasn’t just speaking publicly about another candidate,
he was trying to get some foreign power to investigate that political rival…
he wasn’t talking trash about Biden…
“Biden is an idiot”…that would be talking trash about Biden…
he was trying to do something besides talking
trash about Biden, which is get information about Biden… not talking trash…
that is a major difference from what you are talking about…
IQ45 has a pattern which is attempting to get foreign governments to
investigate political rivals… you yourself have mentioned his attempt
to get Russia to hack Clinton’s e-mails which they did… influenced the
election, didn’t it?
that same type of illegal actions is what is occurring here…
this time with the Ukraine and China… he isn’t trying to talk
trash about Biden, he is trying to get those countries to do his
dirty work…and that is the crime against the constitution that he
committed…trying to use foreign governments to investigate
his political rivals… that is the problem and what you Trumpistas
cannot see…
How does getting the Ukraine to investigate a several year old
case in a foreign country become draining the swamp? it doesn’t……
because it wasn’t about anything, anything at all about
corruption in our so called “American swamp”…
Kropotkin
I want to make a few points.
A) Just because someone withholds money from someone, then investigates an associate of theirs, doesn’t mean they withheld money from them, to, investigate an associate of theirs, they may have withheld it for other reasons.
B) Impeachment is a charge, not a conviction.
From a legal standpoint (but not from an intellectual or social standpoint), innocence is assumed until proven otherwise.
If this goes to trial, which it probably won’t, a lot of facts we’re not privy at this time could come forward.
C) Just because you, can, charge someone, doesn’t mean you necessarily, should.
A policeman can charge a pedestrian for jaywalking or a driver for speeding, doesn’t mean they should.
Ask yourselves if the shoe was on the other foot, it was Biden trying to get dirt on Donald, would you really give a damn?
Impeachment, if successful, could cause irrevocable social, political and economic turmoil and tumult, it could even trigger something unexpected, something catastrophic.
Of all the crimes presidents have committed since America’s inception, this is a parking violation, it just speaks to how desperate democrats are.
In 3 years of nonstop probing this is the best they could come up with, really?
If anything this is a vindication of Donald, not a mark against him.
Imagine what the democrats would’ve uncovered about Bush (or themselves) had they probed him with this rigor?
It’s the same with trying to character assassinate Kavanaugh and their other shenanigans, they only speak to their powerlust.
It’s political rivalry, nothing to do with the welfare of average Americans.
Russia never hacked Clinton’s emails, what are you even talking about? Our government pinned it on some poor, non-Russian schmuck by the name Guccifer, when I think Wikileaks said originally it came from a Washington informant in Hillary’s camp. It’s interesting that the Mueller investigation says Guccifer is a Russian group of hackers now when the original news reports named a sole individual who was not Russian. The original Guccifer was a Romanian or something like that and he worked alone. It’s interesting how history is revised and morphed into something else. God, I hope that guy isn’t in some black ops site, never to be tried in court or see the light of day. Hold on, I just read the entire Wiki article and it didn’t mentioned who hacked into Hillary Clinton’s private server, only the DNC server.
Where does it officially say that Russia hacked Clinton’s private server? In the Mueller report?