promethean75:
so-crates wasn’t the first person to ax ‘why’. keep that in mind. but i have a theory about why and how the greeks have gone down in the history books as being the fathers of modern philosophical thought. first, obviously, the language families survived, dominated and formed modern english. second, due to the very sudden explosion of novel challenges in social and industrial/technological matters, the degree of perplexion skyrocketed among the intellectuals. but here’s what happened; their society remained stable enough for the duration so that they could ask dumb, philosophical questions without noticing any difference , without suffering a deficit. in other words, they were able to toss nonsensical word salads and engage in illusory conceptual problem solving (when the problems were strictly linguistic) without there being any consequences for being wrong . that’s how you know you’re prospering; when you have the time and luxury to send your language on vacation because your language isn’t doing any real work, anyway. so this great journey into the land of gobbledygook that the greeks took was something afforded by the surplus of material wealth produced by everyone but the philosophers.
ever wonder why you don’t really see greek philosophers pushing any proto-type socialist theory? even your boy so-crates, while pestering the shit out of the ‘nobility’, still adhered to a platonic conception of the ‘good’ and the ‘just’, something only the ‘enlightened’ could have knowledge of. and do you know what ‘enlightened’ meant for the greeks? it meant the privilege to hang out at the symposium and ask stupid questions with the other useless aristocrats while your slaves served you olives and cheese and shit.
‘philosopher kings’ my ass.
Que mierda tan feo
Así mismo.
That was perfect. 'cept fea . Spanish is meant to be written, like I said, unlike fucking French or noble Italian, so generally anything that ends with a is a girl and anything that ends with “o” is a boy.
Fixed_Cross
November 27, 2019, 3:22am
1942
Right, of course. I was thinking of that but feo and fea sounded so different.
promethean75:
so-crates wasn’t the first person to ax ‘why’. keep that in mind. but i have a theory about why and how the greeks have gone down in the history books as being the fathers of modern philosophical thought. first, obviously, the language families survived, dominated and formed modern english. second, due to the very sudden explosion of novel challenges in social and industrial/technological matters, the degree of perplexion skyrocketed among the intellectuals. but here’s what happened; their society remained stable enough for the duration so that they could ask dumb, philosophical questions without noticing any difference , without suffering a deficit. in other words, they were able to toss nonsensical word salads and engage in illusory conceptual problem solving (when the problems were strictly linguistic) without there being any consequences for being wrong . that’s how you know you’re prospering; when you have the time and luxury to send your language on vacation because your language isn’t doing any real work, anyway. so this great journey into the land of gobbledygook that the greeks took was something afforded by the surplus of material wealth produced by everyone but the philosophers.
ever wonder why you don’t really see greek philosophers pushing any proto-type socialist theory? even your boy so-crates, while pestering the shit out of the ‘nobility’, still adhered to a platonic conception of the ‘good’ and the ‘just’, something only the ‘enlightened’ could have knowledge of. and do you know what ‘enlightened’ meant for the greeks? it meant the privilege to hang out at the symposium and ask stupid questions with the other useless aristocrats while your slaves served you olives and cheese and shit.
‘philosopher kings’ my ass.
Lol, reads like the Apologia .
Yeap, yeap. It wants to be latin, or is the guardian of Latin, but understands that it must be spoken by all. The synthesis gives some magic you will like a lot. When reading booky books.
By the way, feo and fea are very different.
Why do you think Spain is regarded as the cradle of acceptable sexism?
If a five year old whoever wanted to insult a 5 year old Jakob, he might just call him Jakoba. And it would be grave.
Actually, come to think of it, a good number of adults do it too. The fun ones.
Try saying it out loud, “que mierda tan fea.”
Delicious.
Arab didn’t bring too much into Latin grammatically, I guess, but it did infuse it i think with something of the old language. I believe semitic and semitic-adjacent languages changed much less from the old toungue than our awesome forefathers. A neatness, a separation of sylables and ideas, a care for the linguistic monad. A back of the throat thing. Nouns, mostly nouns got transferred from Arab, and noises.
Did Latin have some of this already when it was a living toungue? I believe so. I believe it is one of the secrets why the romans felt citizens and would-be conquerors of a world, a planet, not of Europe or of Rome.
They looked to the East with fear.
Fixed_Cross
November 27, 2019, 3:40am
1951
Thats why Im Fixed Cross now.
Greece was different. It wasn’t monadic, it was compoundic. You had 4 syllable words that were prime numbers. Thought was baked into Greek. And boy was it.
Latin was more reverencial of the old words. The economy of the first toungues.
In France, it is good to smell like you just had sex.
In Greater Spain, it is good to look like you have many weaknesses.
Strenght in the Latin world is not measured by impenetrbility, but by unpenetrated penetrability.
Unpenetrability is always suspect. Always suggests weakness. Which is what is behind all the giggles at the gringos. So tough! So touchy.
Fixed_Cross
November 27, 2019, 3:47am
1956
Arab didn’t bring too much into Latin grammatically, I guess, but it did infuse it i think with something of the old language. I believe semitic and semitic-adjacent languages changed much less from the old toungue than our awesome forefathers. A neatness, a separation of sylables and ideas, a care for the linguistic monad. A back of the throat thing. Nouns, mostly nouns got transferred from Arab, and noises.
They did heavily impact the French of course. No other way they could have acquired it. And why it thrives, French, among Arabs.
Did Latin have some of this already when it was a living toungue? I believe so. I believe it is one of the secrets why the romans felt citizens and would-be conquerors of a world, a planet, not of Europe or of Rome.
It must have. Mel Gibson was pretty smart about it.
Fixed_Cross
November 27, 2019, 3:48am
1957
Greece was different. It wasn’t monadic, it was compoundic. You had 4 syllable words that were prime numbers. Thought was baked into Greek. And boy was it.
Latin was more reverencial of the old words. The economy of the first toungues.
Yes, even the alphabet inspires sublime thought.
Only them, only thus, could beauty be found in truth.
Fixed_Cross
November 27, 2019, 3:51am
1960
Thracia, Mousia, Dacia, Germania and Sarmatia
yes I should say so.