Actually, I came here to comment on why I think people think about rape the way they think, you and Joker were the examples based on which I built my explanation, and then I proceeded to explain how that is not only true about rape in particular, but opinions in general are determined by the interaction of a person’s biology and environment.
I try to be as objective as possible. You take the side of the victim in rape.
Joker takes (I think) the side of the rapist, or at the very least empathizes with them. I am the observer, an outsider to your little discussion.
I try to understand why you think the way you think, and why Joker thinks the way he thinks.
Another example is how Joker will perceive female sexual nature for what it is, especially nasty sides, because it affects him directly and thus interests him more, yet he is less willing to admit the same type of faults when they belong to men.
He notices how females go for money and presumably uses it as evidence of their lack of depth, but he doesn’t notice how males are also ‘shallow’, albeit to a lesser extent, and go for tits and asses and pretty faces.
I’m not ignorant of such nor have I ever said men are angels by comparison. Being a man I tend to focus on perceptions of men. One could say men are equally cruel or savage in some regards which I have no problem agreeing with.
I just feel as a man that women are by far the more deceptive and manipulative of the sexes.
I was however thinking about posting in my thread Transactionary And Prostitutive Nature Of Women some reasons as to why I think they allow themselves to be taken advantage by such men. A sort of expirimental theory or explanation of mine that I’ve been working on.
At any rate I hope you keep posting as it is clear you’re very intelligent and some of your views match my own.
I don’t know about hahaha, but those are periphery sexual organs that men objectify on a much lesser scale … Women objectify the primary sexual organ, large penis!! They objectify the primary sexual organ more than men objectify periphery sexual organs !!!
I’ll use my own example … I’m right at the mean… Most men have my penis size, if you look up average, that’s a bullshit statistic.
Regardless, I’ve had two women leave the room when they saw a 6" penis, and I hardly ever get women in the room… They said it was too small, one woman I had sex with, took me into a sex shop and we were walking around sex toys and she told me she preferred “this size” it was an 8" penis with like 7" girth… And didn’t want to see me again.
How many men look at a Labia and say “nope” how many men (lots of men actually have a fetish for small breasts) look at small breasts and say “nope” not many, if any. Women actually objectify physical features more than men do, a man might say "I like small and large breasts both - so I’d prefer to have one of each, but there are no small or average penis fetishes that women have… And as much as it hurts women to be rejected for secondary sexual features, it hurts a hell of a lot more to be rejected for the primary one, and on this gossip, women are cruel and relentless.
Finally you said something worth commenting on. Yes, I agree that women do objectify far more many things than men do.
If I could give you some advice and if you would take my heed think more before you post something like you’ve done with your last two posts where maybe I wouldn’t be so rude to you. Pace yourself.
Hahaha, interesting that you ingratiate yourself as my superior. ( oxymoron ) if there were a debate between all women and all men, I’d be the content and win of the debate … You see it , but you are not by a long shot, the embodiment of this type of debate… You’d lose the debate without me .
I’m not the moron you make me out to be, just in this regard … You rhetoric defies the post in question.
I’m the best fucking evolutionary psychologist on this fucking planet, and you barely scratch the surface of such.
You can’t even argue a lack of objective morality without making a fool of yourself. Rape solves as both not adaptive and not good game theory.
This thread is a joke. But I haven’t even posted on that, just some scraps of food on this particular objective point…
I don’t want your compliments, I want your logical consistency… I want you to acknowledge that your word choice follows ethics, and your conceptual choices as well… This is the good to you, so fucking own it… I am not your student, defined as intentionally teaching, but you are in the muck, and you are mine… It’s not all equal, and I am so far above the arguments you present for your side, it is a joke.
And you’re someone who couldn’t win this debate without me, but I could win without you.
What’s even funnier is someone who thinks arguing there is no morality is a good argument … You’d be out of the debate with the trolls… Bottom cuts for real adults.
I responded to this thread the way I responded because I saw someone with (at least some) respect trying to help someone with no respect at all. I considered this to be unfair to all those who were unlike the topic starter, hence my emotional reaction.
There is no doubt in my mind that help should be offered only to those who are respectful. Joker must first become respectful before we can proceed to offer him help. This means that he has to admit and apologize and in general make up for all of his past mistakes before we can proceed to offer him help. This step must not be skipped. Otherwise, you end up reinforcing his disrespectfulness and insulting everyone with respect.
I have no evidence to show you that he has any plans to rape women, but I have evidence to show that he takes pleasure in the idea of other people raping women. See his Valentine’s Day thread.
This is not a “serious” threat. He is not making a promise to rape women at some point in the future. But it is nonetheless a threat and should not be ignored simply because it is not “serious enough”.
Threats and finger pointing are a perfectly valid retaliation measure against such people. That does not mean I am against diplomacy, that I am not willing to make a diplomatic offer.
Also, you are responding to a post that is directed at another person, and in a very subtle way, you are actually defending that person.
What happens when you have a serious declining global economy, endless number of angry unemployed men living without any hope, and naive women who in their vanity can’t see beyond the confines of their own pursued coveted hypergamy?
