Corona Virus Outbreak from Turd

Oh really? I’ll at least feel better about the situation, if wearing one… or maybe I’ll just stay in, until it all blows over. :neutral_face:

Yea… always on standby.

I wondered that too, but I’m sure we’ll soon find out what utility they’ll have, in regard to the situation… the army I can understand, but the police… I don’t get.

Edited to add: perhaps to not interact too much with the public, so lessen lesser investigations, just as people are being encouraged to work from home etc.

Or maybe , the police upon sight projects an immediate sign of 'everything under control ’ type of anesthetic anti panic balm.l,
directly connected to a mythic Trumpian commanding presence.

(Yet more of Turd’s wisdom.)

Update 3
My recommendation for Meno is to get back to the basics on how military deals with control of cities internally to external threats on the spectrum of oligarchies to proletarian systems of government. You’ve chosen to systematically believe it is always some sinister contra-ideological boogeyman out to get you and your believe system, inducting any allied believe system others hold as equal victims.

The fundamentals of the system individuals like myself were trained in is that left by the Socratic movement to train better and more able leaders able to lead regardless of politics. Art and technical skill qua situational response was the priority concern, not ideology. The oldest book we have on the subject proves my point: Aeneas Tacitus: Defense of a Fortified City. Our spectrum isn’t a limited dichotomy of ideological clashes but how to keep a society alive when faced with cataclysm. We’ve always taken a view of adaptability of strategy to the sovereign customs of a society. If you read the Loeb Classical Library version you’ll see it much more indepth, and won’t as likely be prone to making bizarre and rash projections that everyone in a position to invoke change is out to destroy your beliefs. You are too minuscule and incompetent to worry about. You lack even the skill to inflict incidental harm like most of the Nietzscheans here do. The big fight you’ve seen being fought in the world isn’t being fought. The only people able to make competent changes study the topics I’ve studied, we recognize one another. That’s the Socratic legacy. We don’t let the ideological spectrum result in Behavioral Sink. You have always flirted like many here with the edge of oblivion, putting ideas of utopia before survival and continuance. You try to speak like a strategist but you are no Engles. He at least understood Clausewitz. I, not bring a Marxist, could debate Marx on Aeneas Tacitus or Engles on Clausewitz. It wouldn’t have anything to do with the validity of their beliefs, or my politics but simply on the nature of a people navigating life, avoiding pitfalls and living a life of perpetual survival through deft thinking, analysis, ability to reverse mistakes and salvage bad situations and codify rules to avoid the worst lessons, debating which feedback loops in consciousness lead to behavioral sink in humans. In today’s era, the left is quickest to jump on the bandwagon to ruin and oblivion. I do not support this for obvious reasons:

Short video on Behavioral Sink:

m.youtube.com/watch?v=5m7X-1V9nOs

Aeneas the Tactician:

penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/R … /home.html

As to Magsj’s worries about staying away from people, you should of been sticking up like K suggested weeks ago so you could, instead everyone is fighting for same allocation of resources coming in. The locust plague isn’t just in East Africa but also Pakistan now. Food prices will jump in a few months by default. Again, Meno- not a capitalism vs communism thing, but rather my ability to rationally interpret data in a manner developed over the last few thousand years for ministers advising government. The food famine so few are even aware of is worst than this current plague, and the risk of this plague mutating and becoming more lethal is high. The summer hemisphere is next, they will enter their flu season soon as the northern hemisphere exits. Simple antipodal calculations of epidemics and seasons have existed since the early Bronze Age, and expansion of locust in collapsing food supplies have been known just as long. Not hard to track these data points for a trained mind focused on the nature of survival of both individuals and society.

And to Iambigious:

The Jain book on logic, Sammati Tarka is available online. Compare this starting on page 226 with Orbie and my discussion of Guattari and Deleuze theory of nomadism and schitzophrenia. You’ll find your position on Dasein falls apart as a incomplete theory. Remember, I know Shankara and Non-Dual philosophical systems in general. The topic you’ve always insisted talking about isn’t even a stable concept, and the arguments the Jains used here are the same Phyllo used against your broken buddhistic Marxist position. You’ve never realized how incompetent and incomplete your position always has been, and it isn’t my job to go about filling in the gaps of your obsession. Instead of debating me just debate them in the text, was seemingly written for you:

holybooks.com/wp-content/up … -Tarka.pdf

For Tab and Wendy:

Tab has Crabby Tabby Syndrome. It comes from being here all the time and letting stupid rot your mind out debating idiots. Problem is a mind quick to make poorly qualified judgments about etiology and natural philosophy, especially the complexity involved in theory of mind, will increasingly fall back to a narrow toolkit such as Occam’s Razor. You can cut your throat on Occams Razor and die if used incorrectly. Wendy is a racist and in general ignorant and manipulative but some of her positions were correctly believed or at least debated.

I recommend following the YouTube channel Medcram as well as my friends over at AVD China:

AVD China (ran by Serpentza and Laowhy86) for China news:
m.youtube.com/user/churchillcustoms

Medcram: for medical opinions on Coronavirus
m.youtube.com/watch?v=gmqgGwT6bw0

I’m likely nearly immune to Coronavirus due to my Vitiligo Treatment given I take lethal doses of Viramin D. My Vitiligo if left unchecked kills certain skin cancers, but I can reverse it by taking 100,000 IU of D3 daily. At that level you can regrow injured muscle mass and repair heart tissue from stoke. I’m not at risk, Tab is at risk.

Corona Virus has killed young world class athletes, and the mortality rate in Iran and China can’t be correctly identified due to the regime disinformation in both countries. Diabetes and Cancer are high risk factors, but literally any adult at random can go down from it. Medcramwas investigating the theory of twice infected long before Wendy talked about it here, he has ties to the WHO so used it’s data which is statistics from china’s government and he plays it safe not to upset them (he can be sent himself as a advisor someday so has to play politically neutral), but the rest of his data is of the finest you’ll find. I strongly recommend reviewing his past videos.

I don’t expect you to research the history Etiology and Diagnostic Logic like I did. Search the site, you’ll see I was researching it worldwide from ancient to modern. I’m survival oriented. I don’t advocate Behavioral Sink like the Nietzscheavs here are obsessed with doing. Infact, Id avoid all the cities Fixed Cross applauds for risky behavior like high rates of drug use- that’s a contagion probe underground of idiocy. The very definition of a death impulse. His is the philosophy of the Deathgasm.

And Magsj banned me permanently twice, I can prove this photographically. It causes a massive decline of the site. This website systematically eliminated the most creative thinkers like Satyr and Myself. Satyr and I don’t agree on much, but we are highly creative and endlessly adaptable minds motivated by our own thinking and are able to create a climate of debate and thinking. I’ve become sickened with this site given Carlos pro Anti-Islamic stances (he banned me once for arguing against a dipshit making shit up about Islam. I have a large Islamic following on history and philosophy topics and am not known for being pro Islam but I don’t reject its positive aspects when found and am generally respected for my analysis of its history). This is a neo nazis shithole, everyone except neo nazis get banned here using the Carlos Algorithm and the dumbfuck stomps out individuals able to provide a counter to them. Token bans of nazis doesn’t do much either. Dialogue was constantly thwarted and ultimately I had to ask myself what was I even getting out of this site. Notice many topic points I’ve debated in the past are now mainstream, like my push for Trixie not to cut his dick off. I’ve promoted it elsewhere and now many in the media and even rappers have taken up my logic, saw a Breitbart story using my wording. President Trump and his administration uses my definition for Natural Allies and Natural Enemies (remember he has seen this site due to the Joshua Boyle thread, he likely poked around a bit). I wasn’t getting very much from this site. I left it repeatedly. Magsj’s collapse only reinforced the obvious. But I’m willing to warn even stupid fucks about imminent danger, hence this thread. Talks that steer you away from surviving imminent threats for abstract concepts like socialistic utopia and glorious revolution is behavioral sink in uniquely human ways. Blaming everything on carbon in the air or 5G likewise. Notice he isn’t even considering others might horde food or food might run out- he just cries 5G and doesn’t consider secondary side effects.

This forum needs to learn to laugh. One of the reasons I don’t trust the Nietzscheans here… they pretend to be ultra orthodox but they never ever fucking laugh. The central thesis of Nietzsche centers around that and they absolutely and completely miss it. That makes them twice as dangerous to themselves and others. The can’t even pull off rudimentary analysis of Self and Schema like Iambigious tries (and fails) to.

Yeah, that’s a fair enough assessment of why I left 6 years ago. The signal to noise ratio was just too damned skewed. Anyway, hope you’re doing well, and I’m guessing well-intentioned warnings about vitamin toxicity will be unecessary as you’ll have researched them. Take care Turdster.

Tab is at risk of being awesome. It’s a burden I know.

Noted.

The ILP jury was always out on that one… neither Turd nor Satyr are banned, so come on naw! time to stop crying over unspilled milk.

…or maybe she was done here… in that capacity?

People in general need to learn to laugh, and yet… much laughter still does not manifest, and no laughter is had… save from a few precious souls with open hearts.

What on earth does any of this have to do with the points I raised on a thread devoted to the coronavirus?!

This part:

Ever and always, my frame of mind here revolves around the extent to which objectivists – Buddhists or Christians, Marxists or libertarians, liberals or conservatives – make a distinction between those things they believe are true about it in their head, and those things they are actually able to demonstrate that all rational people are obligated to believe in turn.

And fuck concepts. My only interest is the extent to which any and all concepts about the disease are applicable to, say, the actions and reactions of particular governments and particular individuals, insofar as conflicts crop up regarding that which is said to be the right or the wrong thing to do.

Thus the extent to which my “position on [d]asein falls apart as a incomplete theory” is just the sort of thing that the “serious philosophers” want to take up into the clouds in order to debate technical points that almost always revolve around “definitional logic.”

Please pass along to turd a challenge on my part to discuss these relationships out in the world revolving around a particular context relating to the coronavirus or to any other set of circumstances in which value judgments come into conflict.

Right here at ILP please.


I wish you would come back Turd now that you know you are not banned but anyway I hope you are well

Hungary Confirms Fourth Case of New Coronavirus

President Trump calls Inslee a ‘snake’ after governor and Pence meet on coronavirus

March 6, 2020 at 3:57 pm | Updated March 6, 2020 at 6:01 pm

1 of 2 President Donald Trump speaks as he tours damage from a recent tornado, Friday, March 6, 2020, in Cookeville, Tenn. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

2 of 2 Vice President Mike Pence, right, looks on as Gov. Jay Inslee speaks during a news conference, Thursday, March 5, 2020, at Camp Murray in Washington state. Pence was in Washington to discuss the state’s efforts to fight the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)

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OLYMPIA — President Donald Trump Friday called Gov. Jay Inslee a “snake,” puncturing the feeling of bipartisanship in the wake of the vice president’s visit to Washington in response to the coronavirus outbreak.

Vice President Mike Pence flew to Washington on Thursday to meet with Inslee and Washington’s congressional delegation to discuss the response to the virus.

Thursday’s roundtable, news briefing and public statements featured praise by Pence, who thanked Inslee, health officials and others for their response to the outbreak. The governor, in return, was cordial and welcoming to Pence.

That good-spirited collaboration apparently proved too much for Trump, who on Friday toured the Centers for Disease and Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

The president and his administration have come under fire repeatedly from Inslee, in public barbs, lawsuits and at least one in-person confrontation with Trump.

When asked Friday by a reporter about Pence’s visit to Washington , the president said he told Pence not to be nice to the governor.

“So I told Mike not to be complimentary to the governor, because that governor is a snake, Inslee,” Trump said. “And I said, ‘If you’re nice to him, he will take advantage.’ And I would have said no.”

“Let me just tell you, we have a lot of problems with the governor, the governor of Washington … we have many problems,” Trump added. “So Mike may be happy with him, but I am not.”

In a tweet Friday responding to the president’s remarks, Inslee wrote, “My single focus is and will continue to be the health and well-being of Washingtonians.”

“It’s important for leaders to speak with one voice,” the governor continued. “I just wish the president and vice president could get on the same page.”

“We appreciate the vice president’s visit and our teams are working well together,” Inslee added.

Later Friday, Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan reacted to Trump’s name-calling and reports that Trump adviser Larry Kudlow said on a televised interview that Americans should avoid traveling to Seattle.

“The city of Seattle, King County, Washington State and public health officials are taking thoughtful and precautionary steps to stop the spread of the virus,” Durkan said. “We rely on our federal partners for the steadfast support every American deserves. This administration is name-calling and making inaccurate off-the-cuff comments – it’s simply irresponsible and has serious consequences for our residents and businesses.”

Northshore School District closes all schools for coronavirus concerns: ‘We are no longer able to provide quality instruction’

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Bezos is such a great guy. Smart, too.
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^^^ why do you all allow him to do that? Oh that’s right, I forgot. Y’all can’t get organized or agree on anything. Monty Python could stage a more effective revolution.

Once again, Trump manages to reduce real problems down to lame personal and partisan shit that doesn’t help anyone.

First the handshake, then the fist bump and now…
youtu.be/l2-Yui6PdWI

“Amid the backdrop of the growing restrictions to contain the virus, Pope Francis on Sunday for the first time live-streamed his Sunday Prayer, an event that usually draws thousands to St. Peter’s Square.” NYT

Think about it. What does this tell you about the relationship between the Christian God, the Pope, and his flock? As that relates to the existence of a virus that wreaks havoc on the lives of what may well become millions of human beings.

Why, God?

What else is there here but His mysterious ways?

But, still, Christians do have that. That instills some measure of comfort and consolation.

For those without God, the coronavirus is just somehow embedded in the brute facticity of whatever is behind the human condition in a No God world.

It is meaningful only in the sense that, subjectively, existentially, you think it is meaningful. Turd reacts to it as he does, I react to it as I do, and you as you do.

The part I embed in my own understanding of dasein.

Then what? As philosophers, can we perhaps pin down a reaction that comes closest to the most reasonable reaction of all?

1 st comes philosophical certainty in the ultimate gap between God and man.(covenant)

Then comes the physical uncertainty (physics), still in a continuum of quantified measurement , a requisite utilitization, sufficient to generalize a technical approximation.

Finally, a total insecurity of being, existentially undermined of the most basic missing variable, through the maximum utilization of minimal missing variables, where, the measurement itself changes the measured.

Viral infections may effect the quantum immesuraility, in such a way, that a general unstable pattern may transform matter and energy, like that of the generation of nuclear energy from mass instability.

Biological mass, may be destabilized in like manner, through biochemical agent immune suppression: as Dasain looses it’s holistic efficacy .

It is not unprecedented, the late middle ages, exhibited great schisms, of critically limited immunity toward pre-enlightenment critical protestations and heretical burnings, of sacred testament of trust in more general hypothetical, faith based system stability.

Generally, the fact that lack of population control tends to destabilize the integrity of biochemical agent defenses, do not dispose of God’s mysterious transformative processes, where quantifiable, differential calculus, may not disqualify the hypothetical indifference between quantifiable unified.(monads)
One or a million do not matter in qualifying sets of similar entities, and hence, viral attacks serve a basic function in existence, unnoticible in the scheme of things, where innumerable angels can dance on the head of a pin.

In the postmodern space/time, the intra-position of countless elements, (Dasein) may not be differentially exposed from an interposition of external elements.

For adherents of Leibnitz, this calculus dies make sufficient sense, to form a bridge to the post Enlightenment sewing up of metaphysical dualism.

That it is logically transcendent , may solve the problem of the naturalistic fallacy. (It really should=does)

See, you’re doing it again!! :wink:

There is ground to this seeming obsession: the intuitive repetition( Kierkegaard) -faith based; and the faithless recurrence, faitlessly intuited eternally: ( Nietzche).

This ground, granted is intuitive, but here, again, intuition and rationale can not be, ultimately be mutually exclusive, .

Coronavirus expansion

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Live Blog / Coronavirus updates live: World markets tumble and all of Italy goes on lockdown

Here’s the latest on the coronavirus outbreak.

South Korean soldiers spray disinfectants inside an apartment complex that is under isolation in Daegu on Monday. Kim Kyung-Hoon / Reuters

World stocks tumbled with investors bracing for the economic fallout of the epidemic, with a shocking all-out oil price war adding to anxiety.

Wall Street suffered its worst day since the financial crisis of 2008 as the Dow plummeted more than 2,000 points by Monday’s closing bell, and London’s FTSE 100 plunged to a three-year low after oil prices cratered by 30 percent overnight.

Meanwhile, Italian Prime Minister Guiseppe Conte announced Monday that the containment measures introduced Sunday for the Lombardy region in the country’s north would be applied to the whole nation. More than 9,000 people have been confirmed to have the virus in Italy so far while Germany and Spain also saw spikes in the number of cases Monday.

The number of confirmed U.S. cases of coronavirus has risen to more than 650 on Monday, including 26 deaths.

Here’s what to know about the coronavirus.

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Trump’s incoming chief of staff, Mark Meadows, is under self-quarantine

President Donald Trump’s incoming chief of staff, U.S. Rep. Mark Meadows, said Monday that he is under self-quarantine after possibly “coming into contact” with a person who tested positive for COVID-19.

Meadows, R-North Carolina, has tested negative for the disease but will remain at home until Wednesday “out of an abundance of caution,” Meadows’ chief of staff, Ben Williamson, said in a statement Monday.

Trump named Meadows as his next chief of staff last week.

The possible encounter occurred at the Conservative Political Action Conference last month. The statement provided no additional details about the potential exposure.

Williamson said Meadows is not experiencing symptoms but is following precautionary recommendations.

Several other Republican members of Congress are also under self-quarantine, including Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona, Rep. Doug Collins of Georgia and Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida. Rep. Julia Brownley, a Democrat from California, is also self-quarantining.

Rep. Louis Gohmert, R-Texas, has said he is not self-quarantining despite possibly being exposed as well.

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31 out of 35 patients at Life Care nursing home in Washington state test positive for coronavirus

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The long-term care facility in Washington state linked to multiple deaths in the coronavirus outbreak announced on Monday that 31 out of 35 residents have tested positive for the virus, a Life Care official said Monday.

Of the 35 current residents of Life Care in Kirkland who were tested, 31 were positive, three were inconclusive and one was negative. More testing will be done on the inconclusive cases, Life Care public information liaison Tim Killian said Monday evening.

Those who tested positive will not immediately be moved to hospitals, he said. They will remain there unless symptoms become acute enough that outside hospitalization is required. Those testing negative will be moved to another wing, Killian said. Employees have not yet been tested and it’s possible they will be tested off site, but that has not been finalized, he said.

The facility is waiting on results for around 20 residents, he said, adding that every resident within the facility has been tested.

There have been 22 deaths in Washington state, with 20 of those in King County, according to the state health department. Of the 20 deaths in King County, 19 have been associated with Life Care, according to the county health department, but that statement does not say all those deaths were patients there. There have been 162 confirmed cases across the state as of late Monday afternoon.

Father of coronavirus patient broke quarantine and took other daughter to dance

The voluntary quarantine system that states are using to combat the spread of the new coronavirus in communities can work only if people follow it. So how can health officials be sure that people who agree to self-quarantine are at home?

The weaknesses in the system became apparent over the weekend in Missouri when a man broke quarantine and took one of his daughters to a dance.

Trump walks away while asked if he has been tested for coronavirus

Florida declares state of emergency over coronavirus concerns

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis speaks about the COVID-19 virus during a news conference at the Florida Department of Health, in Miami on March 2, 2020.Brynn Anderson / AP file

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday declared a state of emergency as the nation’s leaders attempt to contain the spread of coronavirus.

“I have issued an Executive Order declaring a State of Emergency to establish a unified command structure and direct funds as necessary in response to #COVID19,” DeSantis said in a tweet.

As of Monday night 13 people have tested positive for COVID-19, the illness associated with coronavirus, and two have died in the state of Florida.

MLB, MLS, NHL and NBA announce new rules on locker room access amid coronavirus

Four professional U.S. sports leagues on Monday announced new rules on access to locker rooms and clubhouses amid the spread of coronavirus.

Major League Baseball, Major League Soccer, the National Basketball Association and the National Hockey League made the announcement in a joint statement.

"After consultation with infectious disease and public health experts, and given the issues that can be associated with close contact in pre- and post-game settings, all team locker rooms and clubhouses will be open only to players and essential employees of teams and team facilities until further notice,” the statement said. “Media access will be maintained in designated locations outside of the locker room and clubhouse setting.”

The changes are effective beginning Tuesday. The National Football League, whose regular season does not officially begin for several months, was not in the joint statement.

Grand Princess cruise ship carrying coronavirus patients docks in California

Iowa governor declares disaster as total confirmed coronavirus cases reach 8

A declaration of disaster has been issued in Iowa Monday as the state reports five additional people have tested positive for coronavirus.

Gov. Kim Reynolds signed the order in an effort to expand resources in an effort to contain COVID-19, the disease associated with coronavirus, as the total number of presumptive positive cases in the state climbed to eight.

Four of the new confirmed cases were passengers over the age of 60 who were on the same Egyptian cruise as the state’s previous three patients, according to a press release from the Iowa Department of Public Health.

The fifth case involved a “middle-aged” adult who had recently traveled to California, where at least 114 people have tested positive for coronavirus and two have died.

Trump proposes payroll tax cut, other measures to offset coronavirus economic damage

President Donald Trump said Monday that he is looking at a possible payroll tax cut, along with other measures, to help American workers and boost the economy, which has been hit hard by the coronavirus outbreak.

He said he’d announce the “dramatic” details of the proposed relief on Tuesday. “They will be major,” he said.

Trump announced the measures after the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed the day with a loss of around 2,000 points on Monday.

Stopping coronavirus spread in Syrian refugee camps is ‘mission impossible’

Migrants wait with their children in the buffer zone at the Turkey-Greece border near the Pazarkule crossing gate in Edirne on March 5, 2020.Bulent Kilic / AFP - Getty Images file

WASHINGTON — Turkey’s ambassador to the United States, Serdar Kilic, says the European Union must do more to help his country absorb an influx of refugees from the war in neighboring Syria, after Ankara said it would not stop refugees from leaving Turkey to enter E.U. territory.

Kilic also said his country had taken steps to bolster security on its border with Iran to counter the threat of the coronavirus but that trying to prevent the spread of the virus in refugee camps in Syria would be a “mission impossible.”

“We have reached the limits of our capabilities” to accept refugees, Kilic told reporters.

Boston cancels annual St. Patrick’s Day parade

Boston Mayor Marty Walsh announced on Monday afternoon the city would not hold its annual St. Patrick’s Day parade, which was set to take place in the city’s South Boston neighborhood March 15.

In a statement, Walsh said the event was being cancelled “out of an abundance of caution to ensure that we are doing what is needed to keep the residents of Boston safe and healthy.”

There were 41 confirmed cases of Coronavirus in Massachusetts as of Monday evening.

The first St. Patrick’s Day parade in Boston was held in 1737.

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France’s Culture Minister tested positive for corona virus !

Okay, Turkey has finally joined the corona virus party, now there’s some free money to be had. :smiley:

Remember, it’s not the cough that carries you off, it’s the coffin they carry you off in.