Why is everything so boring?

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Why is everything so boring?

Postby Maia » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:36 am

Just can't seem to find enthusiasm for anything at all lately.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Berkley Babes » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:08 am

And the kicker is, when it's dramatic it's usually too dangerous. I want to bottle some middle ground, sell it, and feel like a trillionaire.

I not interested either. But sometimes I get "into it, into it."
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:06 pm

The universe is a big place; you haven't stepped out of you comfort zone.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby promethean75 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:47 pm

Several reasons. For one thing life in the first world is too easy. Full of mindless drudgery at times but still not an instance of real, immediate suffering or struggle.

So then you fill this free time with various modes of consumption... which builds a slowly growing tolerance and you begin to want more and more.

Because the pursuit of these arbitrary pleasures only involve minor trifles at times, there's still not enough significant suffering happening to occupy you with an ambition that would not allow you to become bored. You'd be too involved in some meaningful passion to be permitted to become bored.

Our ancestors ad industrious had no time to be bored. Boredom emerges out of spare time. There was no such thing as spare time before the combustion engine.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Meno_ » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:02 pm

Maia wrote:Just can't seem to find enthusiasm for anything at all lately.




Variety may be missing. It is the spice of life or so they say. And that , my dear child, Your parents at one time were able to provide for You.

Get on with the program!
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby iambiguous » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:37 pm

Well, the most important thing of all here is that you become your own best friend. Next, that you find things that bring you considerable satisfaction. For me, given my own "set of circumstances" it's "philosophy, music, film, art, books, the good stuff on TV".

Then your options. Are you bored because you take considerable satisfaction in things that you are no longer able to gain access to? Then focus on new things that you do have access to.

After all, think of all the things in life that might make you feel less bored: politics, sports, sex, friendships, religion, hobbies etc.

Or, sure, maybe it's all "clinical". The stuff in your brain predisposing you to think and feel as you do. Here some take to medications that help them. For me it was Paxil.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Meno_ » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:36 pm

For me it is edibles.

I loose all boredom with the above list, and can really get into them.

Without them its the same old .




So? Trying to remember the ???????? I saw before........
and fill it up with something cut apart ,,,,,,,,,methodically, but then what is below that , below the awareness of that.......


I guess the only one I can come to such longing to keep on searching, .......so that .........things will become objectively speaking: a reassamblege, but unaware or unwilling participant



Quite a number, OR that's a ticket!


To ride.

There should be no guilt attached to letting these unattached formal traces go on until apparently stopped; or cut off off like you would of a dragon, particularly Chinese.


Why? Cause of no looking back at all. The go through it but with an iron foisted gonnhorra type outfit to partake any interested out there.


Who could not get something out of that Dadaist fromfest,
, but if UR really interested, well ok ill come by tomorrow.

No need to cut there.


But its better not to recall something back there.


Yes but it is good to keep that option. OPEN
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Meno_ » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:07 am

Too much fun is no good for anyone. ( anonymus)
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Meno_ » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:14 pm

Bit I have to be honest, one question leads to another, and my mind just just emitted some subserviant sub-question:


I am just digesting another persons litany of various preoccupations, and with that in mind. I shall attempt a subordinate one:


Would my life had been different if I was tenuously involved in the art of professional thinking, rather then taking sub-developmental occupations, would i be any more happy or resolved to do daily yoga?

Such no doing things need practice as well, but alas , the charming life of an emely Dickinson would have charmed anyone,the but gives no comfort to internet related existence.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Maia » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:34 pm

iambiguous wrote:Well, the most important thing of all here is that you become your own best friend. Next, that you find things that bring you considerable satisfaction. For me, given my own "set of circumstances" it's "philosophy, music, film, art, books, the good stuff on TV".

Then your options. Are you bored because you take considerable satisfaction in things that you are no longer able to gain access to? Then focus on new things that you do have access to.

After all, think of all the things in life that might make you feel less bored: politics, sports, sex, friendships, religion, hobbies etc.

Or, sure, maybe it's all "clinical". The stuff in your brain predisposing you to think and feel as you do. Here some take to medications that help them. For me it was Paxil.


An interesting list of topics there so lets take them one at a time.

Politics
I was once quite interested in this and I suppose the peak of my interest happened at the Brexit vote, when I felt that finally, the people had spoken, and genuine change was possible. Since then it has been a litany of one ridiculous betrayal after another. It seems that politics is pointless, if its aim is to effect genuine change.

Sports
I did a lot of team sports at school and I really enjoyed them. Goalball, squatball and an adapted form of field hockey, mainly. But they are so specialised that I simply haven't been able to persue them since then.

Sex
I few years ago I swore off anything to do with this.

Friendships
Since I work in the evenings my social life has tended to suffer pretty badly.

Religion
My religious leanings are towards Paganism, but again there's very little going on at the moment.

Hobbies
I like reading. But it's pretty solitary.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby iambiguous » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:34 pm

Maia wrote:
iambiguous wrote:Well, the most important thing of all here is that you become your own best friend. Next, that you find things that bring you considerable satisfaction. For me, given my own "set of circumstances" it's "philosophy, music, film, art, books, the good stuff on TV".

Then your options. Are you bored because you take considerable satisfaction in things that you are no longer able to gain access to? Then focus on new things that you do have access to.

After all, think of all the things in life that might make you feel less bored: politics, sports, sex, friendships, religion, hobbies etc.

Or, sure, maybe it's all "clinical". The stuff in your brain predisposing you to think and feel as you do. Here some take to medications that help them. For me it was Paxil.


An interesting list of topics there so lets take them one at a time.

Politics
I was once quite interested in this and I suppose the peak of my interest happened at the Brexit vote, when I felt that finally, the people had spoken, and genuine change was possible. Since then it has been a litany of one ridiculous betrayal after another. It seems that politics is pointless, if its aim is to effect genuine change.

Sports
I did a lot of team sports at school and I really enjoyed them. Goalball, squatball and an adapted form of field hockey, mainly. But they are so specialised that I simply haven't been able to persue them since then.

Sex
I few years ago I swore off anything to do with this.

Friendships
Since I work in the evenings my social life has tended to suffer pretty badly.

Religion
My religious leanings are towards Paganism, but again there's very little going on at the moment.

Hobbies
I like reading. But it's pretty solitary.



These are just things that popped into my head. There are lots and lots of other things you can choose from. Again, it depends largely on actual options you have in your life given your present "set of circumstances". And, if they don't do, whether you have the capacity to change them.

Then the stuff going on in your brain that -- more or less autonomically -- propels you to feel boredom in ways that are pretty much beyond your control.

For me it wasn't boredom but anxiety and depression. A doctor prescribed Paxil. And somehow -- chemically, neurologically -- my brain responded to it and I felt a lot better. Why? Who knows. Whatever works.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176529
Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
And here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=194382
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:44 am

I feel that you have had in the past, and have opportunities now, to step out of your comfort zone, but every time the opportunity arises, you close the door.

So I believe it's nobody's fault but yourself on this one.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Maia » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:17 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:I feel that you have had in the past, and have opportunities now, to step out of your comfort zone, but every time the opportunity arises, you close the door.

So I believe it's nobody's fault but yourself on this one.


For example?
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:21 am

I think you know.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Maia » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:31 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:I think you know.


Spell it out.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:52 am

I don't need to.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Maia » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:20 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:I don't need to.


Well, this is a bit boring.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby MagsJ » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:23 am

:lol:
The possibility of anything we can imagine existing is endless and infinite.. - MagsJ

I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Wait, What! - MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I, just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a really bad DJ - MagsJ
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:24 am

Don't complain about your life being boring when you know exactly how to make it exciting.

It makes you a hypocrite.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:39 am

Well, speaking true, it depends on your job (income / hours / vacation time). On things like that depend the answer to questions like:

Have you considered hunting?

Right I guess you're in England. But again, depending on availability, you may book a hunting trip somewhere. Maybe Russia.

Rich people don't get bored. And the reason people look at the very very rich, the billionaires, and think "all that money and they don't even go elephant hunting," is that once you make enough wealth, you realize that the accumulation of wealth itself is the least boring thing to do.

Other times, a lack of enthusiasm is a consequence of an active circumstance, rather than a lack of one. What was the last thing you had enthusiasm about?

Then also, I would say some people discover plenty enthusiasm in, whatever, and then what they experience is not so much a lack of it but its replacement with extreme worry, such is the enthusiasm. Let me explain. Think of a mother. At first all bubbles and sunshine. But soon a basket of worry. Enthusiasm comes from something being meaningful to you. Worry can then replace it as a kind of upgrade, rather than lack of. Or like a gold miner who is never "happy" obsessing over the mine and keeping it safe or whatnot. If that miner could choose a place to be or thing to do, he would choose the mine and worrying about it.

I used to think the same thing as promethean75, and as a general rule it kind of works, but Republicans have helped me understand that it is only an excuse. There is no reason, being a native of the first world, you cannot concern yourself with the world to the point of enthusiasm and its derivatives. To find meaning. I don't think anybody gets bored south of the Dixie line.

Also, maybe, think of Hercules. He never got bored, because he set goals. This is perhaps another characteristic of the First World, that you can have a set-up. You are employed, you are guaranteed pretty much everything, and you can pretty much do that until you die. Nothing depends on you, and there is no risk as long as you do your job. The first world allows to not need to set goals. But, if you set one, even arbitrarily, that is beyond your present means: you will never be bored again.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Dan~ » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:48 am

Loss of interest in everything all at once, is part of a clinical depression.
There's a pill for that.
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:49 am

Have you tried it?
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Dan~ » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:39 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Have you tried it?

Have i tried pills?
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:08 pm

Do you always answer simple questions with questions?
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Re: Why is everything so boring?

Postby Maia » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:24 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Well, speaking true, it depends on your job (income / hours / vacation time). On things like that depend the answer to questions like:

Have you considered hunting?

Right I guess you're in England. But again, depending on availability, you may book a hunting trip somewhere. Maybe Russia.

Rich people don't get bored. And the reason people look at the very very rich, the billionaires, and think "all that money and they don't even go elephant hunting," is that once you make enough wealth, you realize that the accumulation of wealth itself is the least boring thing to do.

Other times, a lack of enthusiasm is a consequence of an active circumstance, rather than a lack of one. What was the last thing you had enthusiasm about?

Then also, I would say some people discover plenty enthusiasm in, whatever, and then what they experience is not so much a lack of it but its replacement with extreme worry, such is the enthusiasm. Let me explain. Think of a mother. At first all bubbles and sunshine. But soon a basket of worry. Enthusiasm comes from something being meaningful to you. Worry can then replace it as a kind of upgrade, rather than lack of. Or like a gold miner who is never "happy" obsessing over the mine and keeping it safe or whatnot. If that miner could choose a place to be or thing to do, he would choose the mine and worrying about it.

I used to think the same thing as promethean75, and as a general rule it kind of works, but Republicans have helped me understand that it is only an excuse. There is no reason, being a native of the first world, you cannot concern yourself with the world to the point of enthusiasm and its derivatives. To find meaning. I don't think anybody gets bored south of the Dixie line.

Also, maybe, think of Hercules. He never got bored, because he set goals. This is perhaps another characteristic of the First World, that you can have a set-up. You are employed, you are guaranteed pretty much everything, and you can pretty much do that until you die. Nothing depends on you, and there is no risk as long as you do your job. The first world allows to not need to set goals. But, if you set one, even arbitrarily, that is beyond your present means: you will never be bored again.


Hunting with guns sounds like really good fun. I think I'll make some enquiries.
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