Trump moral? Xians say yes.

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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby Tab » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:13 pm

Why must morality prevail..? Doesn't exactly have a great track record at prevailing so far lol. And which morality are you specifying..?
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby felix dakat » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:10 pm

Carleas wrote:
felix dakat wrote:How is this possible?

To go back to the original topic, I was thinking more about this, and I think "white evangelicals" are more of an ethnicity than a religion. had a friend growing up who identified as Irish Catholic as his ethnicity, even though he was an avowed atheist. I suspect something similar is going on here: people who describe themselves as 'evangelicals' are talking more about tribal membership than about creed. Taken that way, there's no tension between identifying as an evangelical and supporting a reprehensible incompetent.


Yes there's a long history of people interpreting Christianity according to their ethnocentric interests. This they often do even as they are unconscious of the ethnic biases that underlie their beliefs. White evangelicalism is one more instance of this. And indeed we may ask if there is ever a religion which in practice doesn't do this to some extent.
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby Aware-ness » Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:39 pm

felix dakat wrote:
Carleas wrote:
felix dakat wrote:How is this possible?

To go back to the original topic, I was thinking more about this, and I think "white evangelicals" are more of an ethnicity than a religion. had a friend growing up who identified as Irish Catholic as his ethnicity, even though he was an avowed atheist. I suspect something similar is going on here: people who describe themselves as 'evangelicals' are talking more about tribal membership than about creed. Taken that way, there's no tension between identifying as an evangelical and supporting a reprehensible incompetent.


Yes there's a long history of people interpreting Christianity according to their ethnocentric interests.

Going all the way back to the Old Testament and the cult of Yahweh only Israelites.
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby MagsJ » Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:40 am

Tab wrote:Why must morality prevail..?

Why should it not?

Doesn't exactly have a great track record at prevailing so far lol. And which morality are you specifying..?

..in the general sense of the word.
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby MagsJ » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:01 pm

Will Christians (and all other Faiths and Religions) say Yes, if faced with a mandatory Covid-19 vaccination?

If there is a global mandatory vaccine, there is already talk of needing to know what is in it.. right down to the very last ingredient and base solution, as most anaesthetists don’t even know what is in anaesthetic.. even though we are told to confer with them to discuss any concerns and allergies we may have.
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby felix dakat » Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:17 pm

See if you can spot a trend among today's New York Times Headlines:
Mail Delays Fuel Concern Trump Is Undercutting Postal System Ahead of Voting
John Lewis Was the Anti-Trump
Trump’s Coronavirus Testing Chief Concedes a Lag in Test Results
Trump Still Defers to Putin, Even as He Dismisses U.S. Intelligence and the Allies
More Than Just a Tweet: Trump’s Campaign to Undercut Democracy
Does Trump Want to Save His Economy?
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Aug 01, 2020 7:23 pm

Never ending fake news is their trend.
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby felix dakat » Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:09 pm

WendyDarling wrote:Never ending fake news is their trend.


Or at least that's how it looks in Hades.
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby Carleas » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:08 pm

WendyDarling wrote:Never ending fake news is their trend.

What specifically is "fake" in those stories?
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Aug 28, 2020 4:30 pm

Jakob

Trump talks tough and acts like a Christ.
like Christ, really.


I thought that the greatest requirement for being like Christ was Truth, Truth, Truth and nothing but the Truth.
Did Christ speak in ways which only suited his own purpose? Did Christ's Truth change depending on his mood and what he had to gain?
Did Christ speak in a way which could be totally irresponsible and harmful to others without any regard, intelligence and reflection?
Did Christ speak to benefit himself depending on which way the wind blew?
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Re: Trump moral? Xians say yes.

Postby Meno_ » Sun Sep 27, 2020 6:11 pm

Trump talks tough and acts like a Christ.
Like Christ, really., says Jacob


This is true. Why? Awareness of inversion, generally spells a bifulcrinated realism, both moral and ethical.

Which lead to the cogito, not the other wah around.

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Being over nothingness.
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Consciousness before existence.
all before particular.
Eternal before the beginning.
everything before the beginning.
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