Please permaban my account.. thank you!

[Silhouette]

So basically he's saying, "you've made your bed, now sleep in it"

Fair.

[iambiguous]

So basically he's saying, "you've made your bed, now sleep in it"

Fair.

No, basically he is insisting that others make their beds only in the manner in which he himself encompasses it.

Sure, he makes points that others might share, but if you don't share them, the declamatory inflection itself seems to suggest that you become just another part of the problem.

He is, after all, an objectivist. Or he was when participating here.

That's why I invited him to dispense with the huffing and the puffing and, through Maia, engage in a more civil discussion in which we explore the components of our respective philosophies as they pertain to our own moral and political value judgments.

What could be fairer than that?

[Karpel Tunnel]

That was a surreal experience, reading 'Maia's' post. I kept trying to believe she suddenly communicated like this and this trying wasn't working. And then I wondered if Satyr had somehow hacked her account, since they seemed an unlikely friendship where she gave S the log in info. But then, of course, I realized who it is. There's a lovely ornateness to his posts and I daresay he's gotten even better.

[Silhouette]

Well, he too made his bed and now must sleep in it.

He chose to persistently act in the way that he was made fully aware would result in the way it did.

He doesn't get to participate here any more, neither through Maia nor any other means - and I think Maia should respect that too. So no, I don't think it's fair for you, iamb, to invite him to discuss anything with you on this forum.

I do think it's fair that Mags accepts her part in making this forum what it is today though.
I don't miss the Bulverism and "proof by assertion" that all the indistinguishable permabanned encumbered everyone else with, and all the belligerent narcissistic insistence of superiority to cover up for the projection of clear insecurity and to compensate for lack of content and substitute for content. All the extraneous self-congratulatory and circle-jerking personality contest nonsense basically - that shit was toxic and did nothing but harm actual philosophical discussion, despite rampant protestations to the contrary, except it did rope people into posting to join the circus show of defending themselves from endless character assassinations and tedious slanderous accusations.
But for better or worse, Mags was involved in the outcome and she's left with the repercussions of her actions. Her attention-seeking public outburst doesn't do much to accept this, so I think the commentary on her performance was fair.

[MagsJ]

We are all responsible for our own actions and reactions, and our own individual thoughts on any given matter, and I am not oblivious to the subliminal sub-text in Maia’s/Satyr’s/Turd’s post. Most’s mental health isn’t great these days, but self-control is free and would be of great benefit in certain situations.

During my last visit to PhilosophyNow.. too many months ago to remember when.. the number one complaint being raised in every single thread was regarding the amount of sock-puppets, and people instantly stopped posting and left, as did I.. quietly.

And no Silhouette, I am not responsible for the current state of ILP.. everyone that contributes, or has, is.. though I have played-up in the past, when I knew others were taking the piss, and of which I don’t regret in the slightest.

[Silhouette]

And no Silhouette, I am not responsible for the current state of ILP.. everyone that contributes, or has, is..

You are included in "everyone that contributes, or has, is", correct?

Yet in addition, not everyone who contributes is equally involved in terms of the amount that they contribute. Some were more involved than others in terms of the amount of posts, the effect of their posts, whether they were moderators, and the effect of any such moderation.

So given that you are included in "everyone that contributes, or has, is", you have a huge post count, you were a moderator and you acted on that status - and it's you specifically being called out, I'd say it's unfair to say "you are not responsible for the current stats of ILP".
Sure, you're not solely responsible, we're all to some extent responsible - just some more than others.

Anyway, forum politics doesn't interest me, just giving my two cents whether welcome or not. Enjoy.

[iambiguous]

Well, he too made his bed and now must sleep in it.

He chose to persistently act in the way that he was made fully aware would result in the way it did.

He doesn't get to participate here any more, neither through Maia nor any other means - and I think Maia should respect that too. So no, I don't think it's fair for you, iamb, to invite him to discuss anything with you on this forum.

But he does "participate" here. Through Maia. Just as Satyr "participates" when I bring his posts over from KT. Only Satyr's "contributions" revolve basically around his actual philosophy of life. He's not attacking anyone here there because no one here is there. His own objectivism revolves around an assessment of nature that I challenge.

But, in my view, Turd does inject his "declamatory inflection" against members here. And I figure that in a debate devoid of huffing and puffing I can whittle his own objectivism down to to size. After all, among other things, that's what I do here.

Also, over and again I have argued for a rendition of the "dungeon" here. If only because former ILP members who actually did have a "thought out" philosophical outlook on life were kicked out of ILP. Leaving the place crawling with more of those that I construe to be Kids and "social media" types.

Though, sure, this is no less a "personal opinion" that does not make your own objections go away. But that's just part and parcel of how I construe such "conflicting goods" rooted in dasein. The fractured and fragmented "I".

And, in my view, the Turds and the Satyrs have one too. They just don't know it yet.

[MagsJ]

..just giving my two cents.

That’s always been your style, hasn’t it.

[Silhouette]

..just giving my two cents.

That’s always been your style, hasn’t it.

What kind of comment is that?

It's always been my style to give my two cents?
In the sense that everyone posting is giving their two cents, it's always been every poster's style.
Or in the sense that giving two cents is just dropping a casual opinion (the way I meant it), that's the exact opposite of my style.

Either way, your comment says less than nothing. On that account, I'll resist the urge to throw your comment back at you.

But he does "participate" here. Through Maia.

And I'm saying he shouldn't get to.
Like I said, he made his bed - and it's unfair of you to deny him of the repercussions of his behaviour.

Like you said, the two forums don't mix except for what people like you bring over - don't. The rift was earned. You think only those with a "thought out" philosophical outlook were kicked out? Clearly not true. As to whether those lot even had a "thought out" philosophical outlook, I'm not sure I agree. But hey, it's all just dasein right? So who can really say anything anyway...

[iambiguous]

But he does "participate" here. Through Maia.

And I'm saying he shouldn't get to.
Like I said, he made his bed - and it's unfair of you to deny him of the repercussions of his behaviour.

Okay, but my point is always to focus in on what can be deemed reasonable assessments from both sides of the discussion/debate. Your points don't make mine go away, my points don't make yours go away.

Then it comes down to those able to actually enforce one frame of mind over the other. If those in power side with you then Turd and Satyr are gone. Or, if they side with me, they stay. I'm willing to abide by that decision.

Like you said, the two forums don't mix except for what people like you bring over - don't. The rift was earned. You think only those with a "thought out" philosophical outlook were kicked out? Clearly not true. As to whether those lot even had a "thought out" philosophical outlook, I'm not sure I agree. But hey, it's all just dasein right? So who can really say anything anyway...

Again, from my frame of mind -- just another existential contraption rooted in dasein, like yours -- if banning the turds and the satyrs here resulted in a new influx of folks like only-humean, faust, von river, uccisore etc., I'd be less chagrined. Instead, of late the place has become flooded with those that, in my own personal opinion, are the least committed to what many of us here construe to be a passion for philosophy. In however that might be understood differently by members here.

As for your understanding of my understanding of dasein, I'd be more than willing to explore that with you on the philosophy board. A serious and civil discussion of I in the either/or world and what I construe to be "I" in the is/ought world.

Interested? Then start the thread.

[MagsJ]

A quick reply..

Your many past actions against the best thinkers of this forum have justified in our modern age that of ancient Heraclitus’ rage against the stupid ignorant masses (you among them) who are quick to exile the best men amongst them, for jealously and confusion of the mob against silver tongue men capable of great action and ideas, embracing the essence of hate against those great things for which they do not understand.

I banned very few here, so go take your complaint up with somebody else.. I banned a handful of people, that I can count on one hand.

You are today in our age the very model of wrathful ignorance, gracing our former forum in grotesque feminine form, like a shade from hell aping the opposite ideals of virtue. If Einstein was to stand chalk in hand before you and write E=MC2 you would most certainly snatch that chalk out of his hand, breaking it against the floor and cursing him for his written profanities, and then lie to all after his disappearance saying he is free to return, but better learn his lesson, only to permaban him again when he tried to resume. What lesson would he be expected to learn from your shitzo outbursts? To stoop to the same narrow minded level of your stupidity? Only the cockroach crawls that low, and lets be honest, only the cockroaches still ply the threads of these forum discussions at this point- if you can even call this place a philosophy forum, for all the philosophers and thinkers have long ago left this pisswater oasis of dread and drool mindedness masquerading as a fountainhead of great thinking.

You aren’t banned though and you know that and you’ve even acknowledged it, and yet here you are blowing the same old steam and trumpet. What gives?

You ever notice a idiotic topic title gets hardly any views, but one properly worded title gets thousands- but the engagement of new people is almost zero in the topics, for once clicked they see nothing but shit? Nothing worth replying to. Almost the same fucking same crowd I knew here years ago still post in their lonesone, and hardly any new- and it is all because of you. Most I’ve known have fled, you’ve kept only the deranged idiots in your moderatorship around, mental diseases and druggies claiming they are the ubermensch, forever walking uphill pulling on their painful balls like the Nietzschean hero Syphilis, never changing their method, forever doing the same mindless shit as before. The acceptable standards brought inexcusably low, while the higher thinker mocked then banned in this circus. You drove away anyone capable of doing better. Those not banned left of disgust and boredom, and those new and lurking disappointed and confused, unwilling to join.

All that is left if Magsj. This forum has lost the Bohemian Spirit of the Philosopher:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LmrUeGogRbI

Mate! it weren’t I doing the banning, and many members messaged me to tell me why they were leaving.. and it weren’t because of me. You don’t seem to like that fact, but it is a fact.

Move on.. it’s been far too many years not to.

Instead we get endless dribble of sock puppets, drugged up infantile idiots who ALWAYS managed to survive you. You weeded the garden of paradise of all the fruitful plants, keeping only the weeds- and now you’re pissed there is nothing to eat in this wasteland masquerading as a garden, and now that you fucked everything up that you want to go elsewhere. Fuck No! If you escape you might end up amongst far better people who don’t deserve your predatory bite, to receive your disease. Not all forums have banned your name yet Incase you try to sign up yet, they shouldn’t in their innocence of your threat be forced to accommodate you, when you can just stay here in this nest you’ve long ago made. This is the hell you created, ‘been the pilot so long at its helm, that all the imposter personas and rotten personalities here are now are more your kin than blood relations ever could be. You can’t escape them, you broke this place, and now you must keep it, for in here, this is the level of hell you deserve. This hell of other people who drive you mad, those minds you so long groomed and kept together. The time for sanity has long since passed- you’ve banned it away. There is no place you more deserve to wallow in the pigsty of, for it is absolutely full of your filth!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0v96qw83tw4

I’ve seen that film before, but thanks, I’ll re-watch.. and as to the above, people come and go as they please, so has zero to solely do with me. Everyone has their moment and outbursts, from time to time, so why watch and comment on mine? You had too many to count.

Try leave me to my moment, without comment.. if there is/I have, a next time.

[Ecmandu]

Maia, you’re not being rational. You just insulted every poster on these boards including yourself.

Me personally, I act in good faith, and I try to create the best messages this world has ever seen. Do I fuck up? Sure I do. Fortunately, I’m allowed my little sandbox thread. Check the post resurrection messages before you fling shit at me.

[iambiguous]

You aren’t banned though and you know that and you’ve even acknowledged it, and yet here you are blowing the same old steam and trumpet. What gives?

Just for the sake of clarity, I am under the assumption here that the post from Maia above was her passing along Turd's diatribes regarding ILP. As with her being the bearer of "updates" from him re the coronavirus thread.

That's not the case?

Is Turd banned or not?

[MagsJ]

Is Turd banned or not?

He chose to go into exile.. make of that what you will.

Perhaps many of you here.. when you proudly declare that you don’t read mine or many others’ posts here.. should. They’re a real mine of information, you know.

[MagsJ]

It's always been my style to give my two cents?
In the sense that everyone posting is giving their two cents, it's always been every poster's style.
Or in the sense that giving two cents is just dropping a casual opinion (the way I meant it), that's the exact opposite of my style.

Re: People you miss
Postby MagsJ » Fri 27 Mar, 2020 0:02
I quite like the current state of ILP affairs.. light foot traffic, like one would get in an opium den or absinthe parlour.. not that I know what it’s like, in an opium den.

Did you know, that a good few years back, this place was deserted.. no-one having posted in it for a couple of years? It then became my own private echo-chamber, for almost a year, until.. once again, others started to populate the boards with their posts, and so starting a new phase/a new era of ILP.. devoid of the moderating-baggage of the past and of the previous moderation legacy with it. Talk about a good way to spoil that.. is that how you are in relationships too?

Either way, your comment says less than nothing. On that account, I'll resist the urge to throw your comment back at you.

Go ahead.. be my guest.

You talk from a place of ill or no knowledge when it comes to me, and I’d prefer it if you didn’t, hence my initial comment.. about your two cents worth of ill-informed judgements. I often can’t be bothered to confront you when you (constantly) do this, but in this instance.. I will.