I'm hoping your misunderstanding of what the world was before capitalism is just the product of lack of imagination.
In the fall of 2016, Parodites wrote:Indeed as Fixed said, Trump's election will not bring the change that is required, but will open the political process to that change, which is necessary. We have an opportunity in the US to do this in a very civilized manner, through an election- as opposed to armed rebellion.
I do not see the possibility of a world-culture being brought into existence or have a desire that a species wide system of values be instituted either organically or by some kind of directed intention. Besides, it is impossible to create the kind of globalist institutions that could combat things like climate change without diminishing the power of the masses, the public, the individuals. Globalism is by its very nature a concentration of political force in the hands of the few. Death is preferable. Power doesn't come out of a void somewhere. In order for these elites to have more power, I have to give them some of mine; we have to give some more of our power, our rights, our individuality, our emancipatory potential, some more of our father's and forefather's blood, to them. Not only am I not interested in empowering these soul-less agencies on the flimsy misplaced hope that they'll combat the threat of a warming planet on our behalf as opposed to just stuff their fat fucking pockets, I want them to be completely disbanded and virtually all political power returned to where it belongs, the hands of the people.
You, I, a lot of other people have surpassed culture and could orchestrate a fair global system on a philosophic rulership, yes. But the difference I think in our perspectives is that I recognize that this overcoming of culture and national boundaries will never occur on the level of the species: because of that, any global system will inevitably concentrate power in the hands of a very small elite political class and take power and freedom away from individuals. When a person who has not overcome their culture through universal ethics and philosophy has their culture taken away by the impositions of an elite class, by politicians and immigrants, they simply become alienated and disaffected and it creates social chaos that can become civil unrest and real violence.
What you are free to do is meaningless. What you are free from is the only thing that matters. That we are free to numb ourselves with Netflix and iphones and whatever flavor of ice cream we want is irrelevant. We are free from- very little. As far as global institutions doing good in the world, for every "good" they have wrought, I could point to ten negatives. We could fight climate change- if you actually think it's that big of a threat, if we allowed private industries to simply drive themselves with competition and invent better solar technologies.
I agree with Fixed about globalism's failure, but I depart insofar as I lack any desire to create a metalogic with which to organize a global scale system on a philosophic rather than merely political basis. I do not desire either the present globalist system, a super-federalist system like Capable's, or a globalist state founded on philosophic rulership. My intention is to restore for civilization the dynamic and destructive surplus-energetics that has been lost in the 20th and 21st century and to instantiate the wheel of the next kharmic aeon, maybe we can even crucify the political elites and use them as spokes for it. That a philosopher condescends to rule is already an aberration to me. Philosophers exist between the human world and the world of the Gods, we shepherd the daemon of man between the worlds, we maintain the balance of the creative and the destructive potential of each kharmic aeon. We witness to man, how it can be used, and broken.
Pedro I Rengel wrote:This is not an age for Philosophy. One reason Nietzsche set himself so unreachably high is to prevent philosophy, a sort of dam. Today, philosophy would be a cruelty.
this is an age for to toughen up man and make him capable of philosophy, or for man to fail. For the last man.
Today, philosophy is still only practicable as twilight. Reminiscence. Of the past and of the future. The possible future. I don't know tech stuff.
Pezer wrote:The dimension of time, ultimate expression of movement, is purpose in terms of value. Purpose is what determines the movement forward in time from value node to value node. As one moves along this dimension, as with the spacial ones, the entire perspective of the dimensions themselves change, what seemed a long before becomes a close now or a never. The direction of the movement is how the valuer relates to the valued, valuing is what staples the valuing to the biospheres of effectance where they are.
It seems essential both to remember that no valued is 100% real and that it is 100% essential for the valuing, the moment of life and subsistence. What is is and may be, the valuing is within biospheres of effectence as opposed to no-where.
This is essential to understand what it means to work hard and intricately on one's lies, especially while knowing they are lies. Truth is what happens, and we only know what happens through what we value which comes before the valuing happens. We as valuers are part of the biospheres and thus are indirectly part of other valuings, so valuer and valued may not be as seperate as the act of valuing would seem to suggest. Lies may be here closer and here farther from the truth, and we might be able to tell by how well they coincide with our feelings of movement; that is, purpose. Beyond truth and lies, it may also be true that some lies are not lies at all but some other manifestation, an earlier branch of the chemical stuff that makes lies, and this pre-existence is what makes something that pretends to be truth, only-in-the-moment-existing, a lie. Evolution works with what it has, and we may well assume that what we used for lieing had previous and continuing uses in our biologies. To value this very system of functioning is a fine-tunning of the system itself, to know that we lie itself already begins to change all purposes. Can a truth be said with a lie? No. Now we know that the lie that pretends to be truth is aiming within valuing, not valued. This kind of contradiction between the content of the lie and the purpose, the valued and the valuing, is what leads to the twilights of idols. A lie wants to be a truth, this keeps it close to what it imitates in effect and allows its valuer to, a priori, see it.
Pezer wrote:When one thing is moving, it can move more if it is being propped by something paralyzed solid. Life is like this, we paralyze in different places to move more freely in others. Value Ontology implies that the direction of movement in any relevant sense is determined by purpose / intention, and it is these things which then determine what stays and what moves.
What we have frozen and still have frozen has fulfilled its purpose, the awkwardness of modern life is that the things we collectively value are all dead, they are no longer the pressures which shape us (except to the extent that we intend them to). This intentional paralysis is knowingly outdated and kept so out of ironically outdated fears, fears of famine, war and oppression. Even the fear of crime is outdated... But many fears are indeed relevant, held silly by tradition of when these fears were first noted and others were still more relevant. The fear of not living up to our dearly departed deities. The fear that looking past what they were intended to be thought to be might open the veils onto some supernatural demon or monster. The fear that we might miss the opportunity to sow this peak. The fear that all responsibility was thought to lie in places that proved not to exist.
Movement is jolly, which is expressed as adrenaline, whether wild or calm, when working with fear. There are things we know we can freeze for more accurate movement, and things we can unfreeze. Respect for olden times, love of the foretold, unseen lord (which is a representation of the human authority figures had), attachment to the feeling of wonder over the object of wonder, these and other patterns we allow to freeze our own prerogative to freeze and unfreeze the areas of our knowledge and consciousness in ways which we feel adapt most to reality as we feel/know it.
Pezer wrote:Who we value as valuer values despite this valuing, and depends on valueds valued by us. The valued determines the valuer's relationship with valuing. This self-referentiality is the will only willing will, and power is the relationship between will's action (valuing) and its existence.
As a side note, I refer to that existence as Chaos. Valuing it so, as a living thing which is unpredictable, which feeds me even as I act with no knowledge of it only if I will accordingly, decreases my waste of thought by several orders of magnitude.
this is an age for to toughen up man and make him capable of philosophy, or for man to fail. For the last man.
promethean75 wrote:I feel like I just read the transcript to a Shakespeare play.
What you need is a good job, Jake. Give you something productive to do and make you feel better about yourself. All this high-falutin philosophy talk is nauseatingly overdramatic and terribly out of character.
Shit, maybe I could get you a job with United Fruit. I got a buddy with United Fruit. Get you started. Start with strawberries, you might work your way up to these goddamn bananas!
When, boy? When...are you going to get your act together?
promethean75 wrote:Pete (kropotkin) works in produce and he's an unstoppable philosophical machine. Arentcha, Pete.
promethean75 wrote:I just felt I should say that for Pete's sake.
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