surreptitious75 wrote:A displayer of empathy for others including that of total strangers
A free spirit and an inquisitive mind and a generous lover as well
Also a good listener who is slow to judgement less it is deserved
Prismatic567 wrote:I read 'woman' is literally Wife Of Man.
Thus the ideal woman is the ideal wife of man?
Perhaps that the reason why the term 'woman' is seldom use these days.
barbarianhorde wrote:Prismatic567 wrote:I read 'woman' is literally Wife Of Man.
Thus the ideal woman is the ideal wife of man?
Perhaps that the reason why the term 'woman' is seldom use these days.
Since man isn't putting up much of a fight other than the Magnanimous 5 of course, I expect that the Woman will be in control in the coming centuries.
But right now she is definitely not in control.
She has the power, she's been given the power by the retreat of men from the foreground, but she doesn't seem to really know how to pick it up and wield it.
She needs to put her best foot forward and leave the heartless tarts in the dust. Feminism will be for her to slay.
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Your ideal woman, used as an excuse to justify your own weaknesses and failings. She’s your kind of woman, a saint patroness of the weaklings. And like breeds more like.
You can't separate the womb from the physique and psyche.
It's the key to unlocking what women are.
Arcturus Descending wrote:No, that key would be paying loving attention to your woman; listening honestly with empathy and compassion to what she is saying and trying to understand what she means. Women are complex creatures.
Arcturus Descending wrote:Gloominary,
Is a woman lesser than when she has had a hysterectomy?
Perhaps as to the second thought though you may be correct. Perhaps in a sense, a woman who has had one (H) kind of maintains it psychically speaking.
No, that key would be paying loving attention to your woman; listening honestly with empathy and compassion to what she is saying and trying to understand what she means. Women are complex creatures.
No, that key would be paying loving attention to your woman; listening honestly with empathy and compassion to what she is saying and trying to understand what she means. Women are complex creatures.
What's interesting is that your answer is a motherly one...
Human infants and children can't speak very well and need to be lovingly cared for, paid close attention to and understood, perhaps that might explain this impulse in you, this approach.
Evolution has molded our species into what it is... understanding that mold might lend us insight into our nature, permit us to better know ourselves and each other.
Is a woman lesser than when she has had a hysterectomy?
I think so.
A woman has less value than she otherwise would have if she were pregnable.
She may still have more value than a woman who is pregnable, she may still have tremendous value, but less than she otherwise would have.
Regardless if a woman had a hysterectomy, nature has designed her physique and psyche with a womb in mind, sort of speak, just as nature has designed men's physique and psyche without one.
This is the essential difference between man and woman, nearly all of the other differences are a product of it.
I can affirm thier individuality and what makes them different from other women, while still affirming what makes them all the same and different from men, their primary sex characteristic, their womb, and all the secondary sex characteristics both physical and neuropsychological directly and indirectly derived from it.
Arcturus Descending wrote:Is a woman lesser than when she has had a hysterectomy?
Gloominary wrote:I think so.
Arcturus Descending wrote:Ouch. I still have my so-called womb as you put it but I am not sure how many women would think of their selves in those terms.
I cannot say if you are being objective here or if this is just a product of how humans value other humans and see things these days.
Gloominary wrote:A woman has less value than she otherwise would have if she were pregnable.
Arcturus Descending wrote:Do you know what this just reminded me of -- the female slaves on the auction platform. I am not comparing you to a slave owner, Gloominary.
I suppose these girls and women would have had far less value than those who could get pregnant? Right? But they had no "real" intrinsic value.
Gloominary wrote:She may still have more value than a woman who is pregnable, she may still have tremendous value, but less than she otherwise would have.
Arcturus Descending wrote:You seem to be a bit contradictory here.
But I suppose that that might depend on who (the individual) it was who is looking at her, valuing her. I wonder if a man who was deeply in love with his wife would think that after she had to have a hysterectomy and they had no children at this time.
Arcturus Descending wrote:Would a man with one testicle be less valuable to his loving wife than a man with two?
Women have a power men lack, and that is that they can give birth.
While it goes without saying both women and men are needed to conceive, only women can give birth.
Likewise, fertile women have a power barren women lack.
Now I'm not reducing all women's value to motherhood,
women have a tremendous amount of value in addition to it,
I'm just saying its an important part of what makes them valuable, a way they can add value to their own lives and society.
Of course men and women both have strengths and weaknesses, women can give birth and men are physically stronger in many ways, but not all.
Mentally we each have strengths and weaknesses, for example men tend to be more visually spatially intelligent and women linguistically.
I'm not sure why it reminds you of that,
I guess it has something to do with feminism, which I don't subscribe to exactly.
What it reminds me of is a young mother, wife and homemaker.
I'm not sure why you think me pointing out that part of what makes a woman valuable is her ability to give birth, means I'm denying her intrinsic value, or her other abilities.
Women are just as intrinsically valuable as men, their health and happiness is every bit as important for both themselves and their families, as men's is for themselves and theirs.
To her husband, who may not want any (more) kids, it may make no difference if she had a hysterectomy, but to society and more objectively, a woman has more value if she can give birth or if she's a new mom, so long as she's also a good woman.
It's like all other things being equal, from a societal standpoint, a fertile woman or new mom has more value than an infertile woman.
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