Pedro I Rengel wrote:He actually tells you what he wants to do and how.
For all of the soft-headed liberals', let's call them, hate for "lying politicians," the truth is that they love people like Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden because the question exists for them: what are they going to do?
Like a movie.
Well, he says a lot of stuff, and yes, how he might do it, but then...Pedro I Rengel wrote:He actually tells you what he wants to do and how.
Gloominary wrote:But what has Trump accomplished thus far?
Almost 0.
It's actually been a rather uneventful presidency.
A lot of pomp, a lot of rhetoric, but few, if any significant shifts in policy.
And the agenda continues, unabated...
Gloominary wrote:But what has Trump accomplished thus far?
Almost 0.
It's actually been a rather uneventful presidency.
A lot of pomp, a lot of rhetoric, but few, if any significant shifts in policy.
And the agenda continues, unabated...
I believe it is one trillion plus. And I find it hard to believe he is spending more than Bush did with his two full out local wars. Which doesn't mean he's peachy at all, just that even the Bushites act like he is destroying everything. I still see him not competing with the Bushes. Not competing with Clintons' passing or repealiing, whatever it was, of the Glass Speagal act leading to 2008.Meno_ wrote:How about the unprecedented 20+ trillion dollar deficit to finance the ultra rich economic mistakes and to boot rewarding them with equally outrageous bonuses?
Karpel Tunnel wrote:Gloominary wrote:But what has Trump accomplished thus far?
Almost 0.
It's actually been a rather uneventful presidency.
A lot of pomp, a lot of rhetoric, but few, if any significant shifts in policy.
And the agenda continues, unabated...
I agree. I've said this to Trump haters and Trump lovers both. Not much has happened. I mean Obama extended the wall on the border to Mexico and so did Bush. They just never said they'd build one the whole way. This is a huge moral difference. I mean, both lovers and haters should be embarrassed by their enthusiasm over seeing this as distinguishing Trump in some way. I am sure the rich are getting richer and corporations have less obstacles by the end of his term. Maybe he will start a way, putting him in Bush's league, however you view that league. A lot of sound and fury....
Karpel Tunnel wrote:I believe it is one trillion plus. And I find it hard to believe he is spending more than Bush did with his two full out local wars. Which doesn't mean he's peachy at all, just that even the Bushites act like he is destroying everything. I still see him not competing with the Bushes. Not competing with Clintons' passing or repealiing, whatever it was, of the Glass Speagal act leading to 2008.Meno_ wrote:How about the unprecedented 20+ trillion dollar deficit to finance the ultra rich economic mistakes and to boot rewarding them with equally outrageous bonuses?
I can’t quite get a bead on him. Sometimes it seems like he is an outsider. In this model: He’s a rich guy, with a lot of things in common with the elites who runs things, and the general plans of Wall St., but he not on board with the precise agenda and that’s why the media, pushed by the elites gave him so much trouble. Once he was in they managed to channel him, to moving from escalating the tensions with Putin, to now restarting the arms race, to making him intervene in Syria, which he was against and so on. IOW he’s a lot like their people, but he’s just some rich guy. He’s not down with the plan, and with little love for regular humans, went about stuff in ways that while in the end will benefit primarily the rich and Wall st., were not part of the plan.Gloominary wrote:Yup, the left/right media blows him up into this devil/savior figure, when really he's just another empty suit, a wall street puppet.
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