Faust wrote:So, Otto,you're poor and educated. And white. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are white and educated yet poor? I talk to poor white people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
Kunta Kinte,you're poor and educated. And black. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are black and educated yet poor? I talk to poor black people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
Alf wrote:Faust wrote:So, Otto,you're poor and educated. And white. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are white and educated yet poor? I talk to poor white people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
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That's anti-White racism.
Replace the word "white" with the word "black", and you'll get this:Kunta Kinte,you're poor and educated. And black. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are black and educated yet poor? I talk to poor black people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
Faust wrote:So, Alf. You're not too strong on logic. Can you explain why you post on a philosophy website yet seem to know no logic?
I talk to people who aren't too strong on logic. Mostly, they're good people. They're just not too strong on logic.
By the way, I rarely talk to poor black people. Mostly because there aren't too many black people, rich or poor, where I live. Most of them (poor black people that I talk to) have a drug problem. That's just my experience.
Reporting my particular experience, without generalizing to all poor white people, or to all poor black people, is not racism. It's just reporting on my particular experience.
Alf wrote:Faust wrote:So, Otto,you're poor and educated. And white. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are white and educated yet poor? I talk to poor white people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
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That's anti-White racism.
Replace the word "white" with the word "black", and you'll get this:Kunta Kinte,you're poor and educated. And black. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are black and educated yet poor? I talk to poor black people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
WendyDarling wrote:Alf wrote:Faust wrote:So, Otto,you're poor and educated. And white. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are white and educated yet poor? I talk to poor white people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
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That's anti-White racism.
Replace the word "white" with the word "black", and you'll get this:Kunta Kinte,you're poor and educated. And black. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are black and educated yet poor? I talk to poor black people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
Many white liberals espouse an anti-white mentality.
Is_Yde_opN wrote:Faust doesn’t mind being anti-White, actually it’s good manners to be anti-White among the “Inner Party” members. Some do so to stay in cover but many have simply adopted this mindset as their own.
If the boss doesn’t like cheesecake and sees it as a moral virtue to not like cheesecake then his employees will tend to also not like cheesecake. A few will feign it but many will simply learn to appreciate this new taste because of it. One could call it an acquired taste.
This anti-White hatred is not to be confused with the ‘hate’, ’bigotry’ and ‘racism’ which the Inner Party members like to project on the White working class and generally Whites not playing ball with the (((boss))), in this game of White dispossession.
Imagine saying that the current economic social paradigm is for making labor cheaper by flooding the country with immigrants who work for less money and have their social-economic ties and status still in their homeland where they send their money while the White working class has to compete against them in the local socio-economic realities and then insinuate that White people who are poor must have something wrong with them.
Says the increase of cheap labor is an inevitable part of the current economic social paradigm yet doesn’t understand how people are poor.
There are lots of college educated Whites who are already poor and there will be many more to follow that’s a reality and it’s also not surprising.
Thankfully the current elite and managerial classes (who will also experience a tightening around their neck) can always hide behind the magical properties of democracy which render those in power to be mere servants of the people and thus free of any charge.
To the starving people they said “Let them have cake”.
But actually that was never said by Marie-Antoinette, it’s attributed to her, projected, by the same kinds of people who are now openly admitting that the racial displacement and replacement of Whites in their homelands is social policy. Then they turn around and say: ”What’s wrong with you? Why are you poor? You have White privilege after all.”
…No, they are not That mentally retarded, they are just seething with anti-White hatred.
All that counts is purchasing power, for the simple reason that money is worth only what it can buy.
WendyDarling wrote:Alf wrote:Faust wrote:So, Otto,you're poor and educated. And white. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are white and educated yet poor? I talk to poor white people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
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That's anti-White racism.
Replace the word "white" with the word "black", and you'll get this:Kunta Kinte,you're poor and educated. And black. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are black and educated yet poor? I talk to poor black people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
Many white liberals espouse an anti-white mentality.
Is_Yde_opN wrote:Faust doesn’t mind being anti-White, actually it’s good manners to be anti-White among the “Inner Party” members. Some do so to stay in cover but many have simply adopted this mindset as their own.
If the boss doesn’t like cheesecake and sees it as a moral virtue to not like cheesecake then his employees will tend to also not like cheesecake. A few will feign it but many will simply learn to appreciate this new taste because of it. One could call it an acquired taste.
This anti-White hatred is not to be confused with the ‘hate’, ’bigotry’ and ‘racism’ which the Inner Party members like to project on the White working class and generally Whites not playing ball with the (((boss))), in this game of White dispossession.
Imagine saying that the current economic social paradigm is for making labor cheaper by flooding the country with immigrants who work for less money and have their social-economic ties and status still in their homeland where they send their money while the White working class has to compete against them in the local socio-economic realities and then insinuate that White people who are poor must have something wrong with them.
Says the increase of cheap labor is an inevitable part of the current economic social paradigm yet doesn’t understand how people are poor.
There are lots of college educated Whites who are already poor and there will be many more to follow that’s a reality and it’s also not surprising.
Thankfully the current elite and managerial classes (who will also experience a tightening around their neck) can always hide behind the magical properties of democracy which render those in power to be mere servants of the people and thus free of any charge.
To the starving people they said “Let them have cake”.
But actually that was never said by Marie-Antoinette, it’s attributed to her, projected, by the same kinds of people who are now openly admitting that the racial displacement and replacement of Whites in their homelands is social policy. Then they turn around and say: ”What’s wrong with you? Why are you poor? You have White privilege after all.”
…No, they are not That mentally retarded, they are just seething with anti-White hatred.
WendyDarling wrote:All that counts is purchasing power, for the simple reason that money is worth only what it can buy.
Agreed, Wendy Darling and Is Yde Opn.
Money can always buy cheap products and cheap mindsets which means that those cheapened lack integrity which is a liberal and Jewish way of life. I have an issue with your lack of integrity (your cheap mindset) through your support for cheap labor without using your noggin to see the consequences of the shortcuts you and other Americans take at the expense of our nation itself being overrun by uneducated, unskilled, non-assimilating illegal immigrants to the tune of over 30 million just so you can have a cheap roof and a few bucks in your pockets. Screw the other native USA citizens who cannot find work in the construction business or many other industries due to those illegal immigrants and the immigrants who stay here illegally on overextended visas so that Faust and his white cohorts can have a cheap this and that. You cheapen what it means to be a quality American who supports other quality Americans.
Was the entrepreneurial spirit born in the USA supposed to be at the expense of the USA? At little to no cost, you too can have your part of the American pie until its all gone...thanks for selling out our country so you and your anti-white buddies can have a few bucks in your pocket.
WendyDarling wrote:All that counts is purchasing power, for the simple reason that money is worth only what it can buy.
Money can always buy cheap products and cheap mindsets which means that those cheapened lack integrity which is a liberal and Jewish way of life. I have an issue with your lack of integrity (your cheap mindset) through your support for cheap labor without using your noggin to see the consequences of the shortcuts you and other Americans take at the expense of our nation itself being overrun by uneducated, unskilled, non-assimilating illegal immigrants to the tune of over 30 million just so you can have a cheap roof and a few bucks in your pockets. Screw the other native USA citizens who cannot find work in the construction business or many other industries due to those illegal immigrants and the immigrants who stay here illegally on overextended visas so that Faust and his white cohorts can have a cheap this and that. You cheapen what it means to be a quality American who supports other quality Americans.
Was the entrepreneurial spirit born in the USA supposed to be at the expense of the USA? At little to no cost, you too can have your part of the American pie until its all gone...thanks for selling out our country so you and your anti-white buddies can have a few bucks in your pocket.
Labor became cheaper when computers were commonly used in business, because humans became more productive. An hour of human labor could produce more work. So yes, i am all for cheap labor. Labor also became cheaper in the construction industry when power tools came into use. It became more expensive with health and safety regulations, for instance. When truckdrivers' actual driving hours (without rest) were restricted, labor became more expensive. That's pretty simple stuff.
When illegals are paid less than minimum, a law is broken.
We could argue about the law, but if it's broken, then someone should be charged with a crime.
Moral views should charge our economic thoughts, become part of them. But a purely moral argument removes the issues from real world context. Morality has to be applied to something for it to have meaning.
Well, you can't automate everything, so that is not a concern. But saying i want 50% of something does not imply that I want 100% of it. This is the politics of fear, similar to the idea that if we allow same-sex marriage, we must allow bestial marriages. It's a burlesque of rational thinking, nit rational thinking itself. The slippery slope argument is not a valid one. Ever.
Unlawful presence is, for instance, not subject to criminal penalties.
Not all wage theft is criminal either, at least in my state. Wage theft is an issue among workers that are not illegal, as well. So you're not correct to say that eliminating illegals would eliminate that problem. (I'm not sure if you back away from that or not.)
But one way to solve the problem is to make the illegals legal. I'm guessing that this is not what you want. But it means that the criminality of illegal aliens is not the real issue. So let's say they are all granted amnesty and citizenship. What is your argument against them in that case?
Faust wrote:So, Otto,you're poor and educated. And white. Can you explain why you are all of these things? I mean why you are white and educated yet poor? I talk to poor white people a lot. Mostly, they're mentally ill or lazy. Or they just don't care much about money. Or they have a drug problem.
Faust wrote:For the record, while i am white, I am not a liberal. In fact, I am a registered Republican. That doesn't make me necessarily a conservative on all issues, but neither does it make me a liberal. Neither am i anti-white. I am curious to know why any educated person, especially a white one, can be chronically poor. I do know that there can be reasons, some of which I have mentioned. None of those may be the reason why otto is poor, despite being educated. It could be a physical disability. I don't know, which is why I am asking.
Faust wrote:When legal immigrants will take less than native born americans, it's just the market.
Faust wrote:Now, we can argue about immigration quotas if you like. But it is clear that the economy benefits from at least some immigration. The answer is a dispassionate look at immigration laws, from an economic point of view. It is not to disallow all immigration. Most of us are the product of immigration.
Alf wrote:Liberals should have the right, but also the duty to go home, back to Africa, because they like to be a "product of immigration" and are "Africans", at least according to the "Out of Africa" hypothesis. A new state as an old one should be founded there again. Liberals may call this state "Liberia 2.0".
Faust wrote:... you can't automate everything ....
Faust wrote:Not all illegas are criminals.
Faust wrote:WendyDarling wrote:The criminal illegal for being here illegally first and foremost. They need to be deported...no, there needs to be border security so these other laws of less than minimum wage being violated won't be an issue. No illegals, no issues of less than minimum wage being paid by companies far and wide that are on the books. There are always going to be unscrupulous people wheeling and dealing off the books, but that becomes an issue for the citizen who is being treated unfairly in his workplace...them laws and them police who serve legal residents and legal visitors.
Not all illegals are criminals. Unlawful presence is, for instance, not subject to criminal penalties. That happens when people overstay their work visas. Not all wage theft is criminal either, at least in my state. Wage theft is an issue among workers that are not illegal, as well. So you're not correct to say that eliminating illegals would eliminate that problem.
WendyDarling wrote:Common sense is dead.
WendyDarling wrote:It died in Faust and all the raving liberals.
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