## Double edged sword

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### Re: Double edged sword

I can’t explain why I think something is cool. I just always have. It’s no more a complex than liking chocolate. Might be related to good memories w my dad, or taking after him genetically. Or both. Or the intrinsic coolness of … being.

If it doesn’t make sense, it’s not supposed to.
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- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

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### Re: Double edged sword

Question. So. If a battery fuels an npn transistor, what fuels the situation going on between the dipole resistor, great attractor, and shapley attractor?

Nuther question. Is the zone of avoidance really invisible/unobservable or is it an event horizon aka depletion region? Is that why our galaxy’s center is not a black hole (unless Sgr A is actually one) & instead is referred to with language like nucleus & molecular hydrogen ring? Is Sgr A like a photon in reverse? Can an event horizon or zone of avoidance/depletion be at the center & the outer limit of a galaxy/photon/attractor/repeller?

Is an attractor a sink, & is a repeller a source? What is the base?

If any of these things are stupid questions, I just learned about some of it yesterday.
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.

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### Re: Double edged sword

Isthmus says :

"If it doesn’t make sense, it’s not supposed to"

nemo says:

Not avoiding an implication, since the question revolves around a vote on analogical correlates.

The supposed universalization hinging on the particularization that at least 2 forums are now considering, the farther flung intentional singular( ity) between them tend to diminish difference and/ or increase in direct proportion to the degree of objective truth is considered.

As compression. Avails more toward an enlarged focus of reference it has more to do with the need fore more rationally meaningful content?

The poll begs for consensus as far as what could be or what should have been more preferable

Should be opinions beg secondarily the primary question, which is ok, but do not subtract or multiply .
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### Re: Double edged sword

¿is it in the pattern of a fractal?
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.

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### Re: Double edged sword

Probably since in a black hole there is attraction. and at the limit of being drawn in, matter is expelled.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_metric

and this inducement moments after thinking of an electrical generatir, the two models being analogical
generator

"The motion of a Schwarzschild black hole with velocity
v
0
=
β
0
c
through a constant magnetic field
B
0
in vacuum induces a component of the electric field along the magnetic field, generating a nonzero second Poincaré electromagnetic invariant

F

F

0
. This will produce (e.g., via radiative effects and vacuum breakdown) an electric charge density of the order of
ρ
ind
=
B
0
β
0
/
(
2
π
e
R
G
)
, where
R
G
=
2
G
M
/
c
2
is the Schwarzschild radius and
M
is the mass of the black hole; the charge density
ρ
ind
is similar to the Goldreich-Julian density. The magnetospheres of moving black holes resemble in many respects the magnetospheres of rotationally-powered pulsars, with pair formation fronts and outer gaps, where the sign of the induced charge changes. As a result, the black hole will generate bipolar electromagnetic jets each consisting of two counter-aligned current flows (four current flows total), each carrying an electric current of the order
I

e
B
0
R
G
β
0
. The electromagnetic power of the jets is
L

(
G
M
)
2
B
2
0
β
2
0
/
c
3
; for a particular case of merging black holes the resulting Poynting power is
L

(
G
M
)
3
B
2
0
/
(
c
5
R
)
, where
R
is the radius of the orbit. In addition, in limited regions near the horizon the first electromagnetic invariant changes sign, so that the induced electric field becomes larger than the magnetic field,
E
>
B
. As a result, there will be local dissipation of the magnetic field close to the horizon, within a region with the radial extent
Δ
R

R
G
β
0
. The total energy loss from a system of merging black holes is a sum of two components with similar powers, one due to the rotation of space-time within the orbit, driven by the nonzero angular momentum in the system, and the other due to the linear motion of the black holes through the magnetic field. Since the resulting electrodynamics is in many respects similar to pulsars, merging black holes may generate coherent radio and high energy emission beamed approximately along the orbital normal. In addition, merging black holes may produce observable wind-driven cavities.

© 2011 American Physical Society

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### Re: Double edged sword

Meno_ wrote:Probably since in a black hole there is attraction. and at the limit of being drawn in, matter is expelled.

The fracturing patterns subsist .

VVV

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_metric

and this inducement moments after thinking of an electrical generatir, the two models being analogical
generator

"The motion of a Schwarzschild black hole with velocity
v
0
=
β
0
c
through a constant magnetic field
B
0
in vacuum induces a component of the electric field along the magnetic field, generating a nonzero second Poincaré electromagnetic invariant

F

F

0
. This will produce (e.g., via radiative effects and vacuum breakdown) an electric charge density of the order of
ρ
ind
=
B
0
β
0
/
(
2
π
e
R
G
)
, where
R
G
=
2
G
M
/
c
2
is the Schwarzschild radius and
M
is the mass of the black hole; the charge density
ρ
ind
is similar to the Goldreich-Julian density. The magnetospheres of moving black holes resemble in many respects the magnetospheres of rotationally-powered pulsars, with pair formation fronts and outer gaps, where the sign of the induced charge changes. As a result, the black hole will generate bipolar electromagnetic jets each consisting of two counter-aligned current flows (four current flows total), each carrying an electric current of the order
I

e
B
0
R
G
β
0
. The electromagnetic power of the jets is
L

(
G
M
)
2
B
2
0
β
2
0
/
c
3
; for a particular case of merging black holes the resulting Poynting power is
L

(
G
M
)
3
B
2
0
/
(
c
5
R
)
, where
R
is the radius of the orbit. In addition, in limited regions near the horizon the first electromagnetic invariant changes sign, so that the induced electric field becomes larger than the magnetic field,
E
>
B
. As a result, there will be local dissipation of the magnetic field close to the horizon, within a region with the radial extent
Δ
R

R
G
β
0
. The total energy loss from a system of merging black holes is a sum of two components with similar powers, one due to the rotation of space-time within the orbit, driven by the nonzero angular momentum in the system, and the other due to the linear motion of the black holes through the magnetic field. Since the resulting electrodynamics is in many respects similar to pulsars, merging black holes may generate coherent radio and high energy emission beamed approximately along the orbital normal. In addition, merging black holes may produce observable wind-driven cavities.

© 2011 American Physical Society

AUTHORS & AFFILIATIONS
Maxim Lyutikov

Department of Physics, Purdue University
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### Re: Double edged sword

au contraire mon ami

M^
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.

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### Re: Double edged sword

I bet rat’s nest spaghetti is bomb.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braid_group
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.

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### Re: Double edged sword

Can't say but under moonlight on a rerrace, it is like indescribably delicious.

I wouldn't have known the rapture , until then...

One way or another I it'$the pain that duffers the palate which redeems the counting Joining 12 step program divided. By four seasoned appetizers Don t please Don t mind , I fon"t ever expect to be with it's ramifications. Meno_ The Invisible One Posts: 13350 Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:39 am Location: Mysterium Tremendum ### Re: Double edged sword Meno_ wrote:Can't say but under moonlight on a rerrace, it is like indescribably delicious. I wouldn't have known the rapture , until then... And sourcefully I m a man in love One way or another I it'$ the pain that duffers the palate which redeems the counting

Joining 12 step program divided. By four seasoned appetizers

Don t please Don t mind , I fon"t ever expect to be with it's ramifications.
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### Re: Double edged sword

Meno_ wrote:
Meno_ wrote:Can't say but under moonlight on a rerrace, it is like indescribably delicious.

I wouldn't have known the rapture , until then...

And sourcefully I m a man in in love

One way or another I it'\$ the pain that duffers the palate which redeems the counting

Joining 12 step program divided. By four seasoned appetizers

Don t please Don t mind , I fon"t ever expect to be with it's ramifications.
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### Re: Double edged sword

Its dimunitively , outragiously offensively pleasing.
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### Re: Double edged sword

Sorry though in a way to feel as though it lets you some down
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### Re: Double edged sword

Better to be known and cry than never to be known and always hold it in.
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.

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### Re: Double edged sword

OK

Remember:

1 talking to ' one' s self

2 diamond sutra #3-altar Siamese temple

3. Cloud or clouded'ness

4 future reference.
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### Re: Double edged sword

k

but when Jesus said similar, we retain our self. The Trinity has 3 personalities that share in being. The Holy Spirit is the person who links us up, but we are still contingent being—which he sustains in his necessary being.

There can be no love without selves that are others / others that are selves.

Even mind-melding Vulcans get that distinction.

If that is all Buddha or the 3rd diamond sutra meant, then why erase personality?

Celebrate diversity & otherness, and all we still have in common.
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.

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### Re: Double edged sword

Erased

tempus fugit~for gut
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### Re: Double edged sword

m’okay
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.

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### Re: Double edged sword

"The Old Adam is drowned in baptism, but that jackass is a good swimmer." - Martin Luther
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.

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### Re: Double edged sword

""As a lamp, a cataract, a star in space / an illusion, a dewdrop, a bubble / a dream, a cloud, a flash of lightening / view all created things like this." In Buddhia text

Diamond Sutra
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### Re: Double edged sword

Today

1 st third : the child all is good and abounded in both - wealth in the spirit and earth

Perception: redeemable

2 and third : illusive delusion; delusive illusion ( what if: ), can't loose,( but do anyhow), >>>>regrets, obsession, high placed offers, unearthly deals, doubt, cogito sum, compensations - neverdeath, below as above, buy ticket to paradise, beauty but for beast, ha ha ha, bribe beauty, but she won't go g for it,
example knew man gave away unbeknownst tux worth -a- million fir haircut

He goes into barber next time( knowing barber won oh what a cut! Barber pretending not to know)
Then he says to him: You made not Sevilian I know meaning civilian or civil, but really meaning Sybill. or see bill,
And inaudibly to himself, could have been Valentine Day's massacre here and too late to make amends.

OK OK

Illusions. Lot's.

Other unmentionables fir hoping against all hope in future time.
So deal or no deal?
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### Re: Double edged sword

Today

1 st third : the child all is good and abounded in both - wealth in the spirit and earth

Perception: redeemable

2 and third : illusive delusion; delusive illusion ( what if: ), can't loose,( but do anyhow), >>>>regrets, obsession, high placed offers, unearthly deals, doubt, cogito sum, compensations - neverdeath, below as above, buy ticket to paradise, beauty but for beast, ha ha ha, bribe beauty, but she won't go g for it,
example knew man gave away unbeknownst tux worth -a- million fir haircut

He goes into barber next time( knowing barber won oh what a cut! Barber pretending not to know)
Then he says to him: You made not Sevilian I know meaning civilian or civil, but really meaning Sybill. or see bill,
And inaudibly to himself, could have been Valentine Day's massacre here and too late to make amends.

OK OK

Illusions. Lot's.

Other unmentionables fir hoping against all hope in future time.
So deal or no deal?
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### Re: Double edged sword

Solo Jerkey wassail matter can You go to #3?

Not before #2 is finished.Done for, and taken off the calendar.

Shows us shows now.

Show!

(Some inaudible muffled claos from back ground)

He bows deeply as if. From cavernous back of olden golden ceilings Egyptian theater on Hollywood near argyle then delivers the finito to # 2 & it goes suchly,:

but then he may have woke and it may have been a midsummer's night's mare. That's it it may have never hsppened.....

" But if did I tell ya. It did." She stumped her foot." angrily she withdrew her searching fingers , but #2?

Oh
..
Yes. Tottering toward the plush divan.......

Well #2 faces lots of obstacles like thought racing , to find a continuation of the line such as why three parts may sustain identifiable reminiscences of what's before, and that exactly my point. How so? Why not loose even the least semblance of memory that plugs into a new place a new habitat?

Why can't You become you and stay? That way?

Would you want to even if you could or be compelled by some kind of cosmic power above ( or below) your control?

Ask Yourself if You really would want to remain You fir ever and ever?

" sure" ?

No, not sure she retired.

There you have it in a nutshell.In order to stay ever which way like you add forever and ever, one has to be sure. Deadly sure. , because one has to go through death, to be sure, and that is. ahem what deathly sure is.

If not sure, deathly sure, then of course one wants to stay alive.
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### Re: Double edged sword

I’m sorry. And thank you.

:’-(
Fall semester ends 12/16/22. Apologies if I do not reply immediately.

“In choosing myself, I choose the other.”
- A marriage of Sartre & Levinas

“ Gloria Dei est vivens homo. “
Trans.: The glory of God is man fully alive.
- Irenaeus

Excuse #2 why I’m not dating: I want to be able to say I haven’t shaved in a decade.

Excuse #1 “I wouldn’t want to join any club that would have me as a member.” - Groucho Marx

Excuse #3: I wouldn’t want to get too attached right before Mutually Assured Destruction.

Follow me for more excuses.

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### Re: Double edged sword

sduresorry for what ?

For turning on a dime, and such goes for being unsure, and nor realizing some things happening out there.

Or, say what, philosophy no easy path to anything tangible anyhow, when One dies not really understand what one is going trough and faced with the ultimate betrayal of having to go through the gates of Hades by one's own.

No one ever dies wish to accompany there did it is quite beyond the scope. To #3. Who is on #2. Well convinced by now of what being born and being. and dying mean, some do die inglorious deaths , unremembered but for the ONE who lived him.

That happens to every child who had a mother, and that love translates the crucifixtual Threesome of Mary.

Mary, the Mother, had it not been She who was warned.

To flee. The 3 Mary's Loved Him. And He Singularly loved every other single one who felt the enormous room left to fill for ever and ever.

That filling is non descript, a melange of oozing painful love that possesses the clouds of reason on every occasion when it stops on a dime and somehow expresses sorrow.

I am not ever sorry , although erasure is easier, ....

Of course where there is smoke, the fire department is right on schedule, as the smoldering embers yet retain dying burgundy and black reminders. But it is nerved the sane.
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