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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:18 pm

R: i know you aren't particularly smart, as anyway communism precludes it, but for it to have been a mistake to make it universal, it has at some point to have been made universal...

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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:20 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:It is no coincidence that what we call the Renaissance, the Rebirth, started in Rome.


K: that is historical wrong... the Renaissance began, if one could say that, actually
began in Florence... and the person credited with beginning the Renaissance was
Petrach, who was born near Florence..in a city called Incisa...and one of the key
events of Petrach, was his climbing of Ventoux... on April 26, 1336....

Kropotkin


R: it's not historically wrong... there were many epicenters and Rome was one...
arguably the main one... there wasn't a start date for the Renaissance...
but i am glad you can use google...

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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Maia » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:21 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Everybody knows that godless heathens treat women like shit.

Including godless heathen women.


Heathens, as followers of the Northern tradition, have many gods, and are certainly not godless. They also tend to have high ethical standards, in my experience.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:22 pm

Maia wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Everybody knows that godless heathens treat women like shit.

Including godless heathen women.


Heathens, as followers of the Northern tradition, have many gods, and are certainly not godless. They also tend to have high ethical standards, in my experience.


First, we already established that you are a hippy. Second, heathen doesn't apply to any particular region, Indians are one example of heathens that are not near you. Third, north of what?

You know,

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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Maia » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:25 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
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Pedro I Rengel wrote:Everybody knows that godless heathens treat women like shit.

Including godless heathen women.


Heathens, as followers of the Northern tradition, have many gods, and are certainly not godless. They also tend to have high ethical standards, in my experience.


First, we already established that you are a hippy. Second, heathen doesn't apply to any particular region, Indians are one example of heathens that are not near you. Third, north of what?

You know,

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By Northern tradition I mean that of Northern Europe, including, for example, the Anglo-Saxons and Norse. It's one of the major branches of modern Paganism. Heathen is a term they use themselves.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:26 pm

Heathen and pagan are terms Catholics use, for heathens and pagans. You can call yourself that, it's fine. There is no such thing as modern Paganism, not if they have any self respect. If they have any self respect, they will refer to some specific tradition or another, not a name Catholics use for anybody that isn't them.

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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:29 pm

Maia wrote:By Northern tradition I mean that of Northern Europe,



You know other places also posses that cardinal direction?

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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Maia » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:31 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Heathen and pagan are terms Catholics use, for heathens and pagans. You can call yourself that, it's fine. There is no such thing as modern Paganism, not if they have any self respect. If they have any self respect, they will refer to some specific tradition or another, not a name Catholics use for anybody that isn't them.

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I assure you there is such a thing as modern Paganism, and while they do indeed have a whole load of different terms for specific traditions, they all, or almost all, accept the term Pagan.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Maia » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:32 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
Maia wrote:By Northern tradition I mean that of Northern Europe,



You know other places also posses that cardinal direction?

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That's how the term is used in modern Paganism for that particular tradition.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:32 pm

Maia wrote:they all, or almost all, accept the term Pagan.


And that is why I laugh at them. Hippie is more dignified.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:32 pm

Maia wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:
Maia wrote:By Northern tradition I mean that of Northern Europe,



You know other places also posses that cardinal direction?

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That's how the term is used in modern Paganism for that particular tradition.


Another reason I laugh at them.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby felix dakat » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:33 pm

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aniceguy wrote:Erotic attraction is not the same as saying a woman is beautiful or not and romantic attraction is neither of the two. Unless you are a rapist piece of shit or an autistic kook who doesnt get when females show interest in him and when they dont, you only get triggered erotically and romantically when a given woman shows interest in you sexually and romantically but that woman does not have to be objectively very pretty or sexy yet you will find her sexually desirable and romantically interesting anyway, if she does show that interest and is not way below your league or there is something odd and off-putting with her.


An interesting observation. Seems like there's some truth in it. But how do you measure things like "objectively very pretty or sexy" or "odd or off-putting". Perception of those qualities are subjective and so vary from individual to individual. The generality might go like this "all things being equal when woman is attracted to you sexually it's a turn on." And does that apply to all or most heterosexual men?

It appears to be different for women because in most cases they're the selectors. It's the qualities that she's looking for that determine the selection, not the fact that the guy is turned on. Yes ? No?

Women are not selectors...they chase men as much as men chase women or maybe even more(but they definitely care more about being sexually attractive) but in different ways. Thinking female simply exists and then picks from an unlimited sample of men is simplistic and idiotic. Even the idea of women marrying up and that whole hypergamy shite has major flaws in it and is by no means even proven.


Do you invariably give more weight to your personal anecdotal observations than to social science findings?
The purpose of my life would seem to be to express the truth as I discover it, but in such a manner that it is completely devoid of authority. By having no authority, by being seen by all as utterly unreliable, I express the truth and put everyone in a contradictory position where they can only save themselves by making the truth their own.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:34 pm

Every neo-commie movement wants to reaproppriate language.

Hey, it's fine. But yeah, North exists all over the planet. the only place that doesn't have a north is the exact north pole.

Maybe if they call their tradition northern tradition, they are idiots.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Maia » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:34 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
Maia wrote:they all, or almost all, accept the term Pagan.


And that is why I laugh at them. Hippie is more dignified.


We all know what the Catholic church has done to Pagans over the centuries. Laughing at them is the least of it.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:36 pm

Yeah but you aren't those same guys.

You are some vaguely neo-synchretist new age movement with no roots.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:37 pm

Also, those pagans the Catholics crushed, weren't sitting there counting petals on flowers.

And frankly I think calling them pagans is kind of backwards and rude.

They all were established cultures with specific traditions and histories, for you all bunch of bored first worlders to mock.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Maia » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:37 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Yeah but you aren't those same guys.

You are some vaguely neo-synchretist new age movement with no roots.


There are genuine survivals of ancient Pagan traditions that have influenced and fed into the modern revival.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Maia » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:38 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Also, those pagans the Catholics crushed, weren't sitting there counting petals on flowers.


Is that what you think Pagans do?
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:39 pm

Maia wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Yeah but you aren't those same guys.

You are some vaguely neo-synchretist new age movement with no roots.


There are genuine survivals of ancient Pagan traditions that have influenced and fed into the modern revival.


Synchretism does not survival imply. Some douchebag with half a college degree read a book.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:40 pm

Maia wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Also, those pagans the Catholics crushed, weren't sitting there counting petals on flowers.


Is that what you think Pagans do?


I don't call people pagans.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Maia » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:41 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
Maia wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Yeah but you aren't those same guys.

You are some vaguely neo-synchretist new age movement with no roots.


There are genuine survivals of ancient Pagan traditions that have influenced and fed into the modern revival.


Synchretism does not survival imply. Some douchebag with half a college degree read a book.


One example, among many, of an ancient Pagan survival is the Abbots Bromley Horn Dance.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:41 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
Peter Kropotkin wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:It is no coincidence that what we call the Renaissance, the Rebirth, started in Rome.


K: that is historical wrong... the Renaissance began, if one could say that, actually
began in Florence... and the person credited with beginning the Renaissance was
Petrach, who was born near Florence..in a city called Incisa...and one of the key
events of Petrach, was his climbing of Ventoux... on April 26, 1336....

Kropotkin


R: it's not historically wrong... there were many epicenters and Rome was one...
arguably the main one... there wasn't a start date for the Renaissance...
but i am glad you can use google...

K: as I am educated, I didn't actually have to google, I OWN books and historically you are wrong....
but that is nothing new... you are pretty consistently wrong...

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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:46 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:It is no coincidence that what we call the Renaissance, the Rebirth, started in Rome.



K: that is historical wrong... the Renaissance began, if one could say that, actually
began in Florence... and the person credited with beginning the Renaissance was
Petrach, who was born near Florence..in a city called Incisa...and one of the key
events of Petrach, was his climbing of Ventoux... on April 26, 1336....

R: it's not historically wrong... there were many epicenters and Rome was one...
arguably the main one... there wasn't a start date for the Renaissance...
but i am glad you can use google...

K: as I am educated, I didn't actually have to google, I OWN books and historically you are wrong....
but that is nothing new... you are pretty consistently wrong...

R: is that how educated book owning commies refute...
"yes you are"... ok then commie bot...

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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 6:48 pm

*Historically wrong.
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Re: Is anyone here a recovering atheist?

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Oct 14, 2021 7:00 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
Maia wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Yeah but you aren't those same guys.

You are some vaguely neo-synchretist new age movement with no roots.


There are genuine survivals of ancient Pagan traditions that have influenced and fed into the modern revival.


Synchretism does not survival imply. Some douchebag with half a college degree read a book.


Pedro I Rengel wrote:K: I am educated, I didn't actually have to google, I OWN books


Like this idiot.
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