Karpel Tunnel wrote: Sure....
this...And, come on, why on earth do you suppose religions were invented if not to insist that not only is there a reason for Nazis and for everything else but you damn well better accept our reasons...or else.
is not a value judgment, it is an assertion of fact.
No, to assert it as a fact would, in my view, be more like this:
Beyond any and all doubt, religions were invented to insist that only those who think like they do can differentiate right from wrong behavior on this side of the grave in order attain immortality and salvation on the other side. And if you don't agree with this you are necessarily wrong.
Instead, I'm merely noting that given my own assessment of religion down through the ages, it seems reasonable to me to suggest this. I'm asking others why it might not seem reasonable to them.
Then back to this again:
Karpel Tunnel wrote: In a rhetorical question form, with a period at the end. The issue of the reasons why religions were invented is a question about what is or was factually not about beauty or morals.
Note to others:
Make of this what you will.
Karpel Tunnel wrote: SoAgain the irony being that over and again I note that my own value judgments here are no less existential fabrications rooted in dasein. That I am not able to demonstrate that all rational men and women are obligated to think like I do. That, given the way I do think about all of this, "I" am a fractured and fragmented individual who has thought himself into believing that his own existence is essentially meaningless and that all too soon "I" will topple over into the abyss that is oblivion.
Is irrelevent, since it has to do with value judgments. what is good and bad. Not what is or was or isn't or wasn't.
Note to others:
Same here. If you think he is making a really, really important point about my argument above, so be it.
Then, as far as you're concerned, he wins and I lose. Right?
And, again, what becomes particularly surreal here is how this exchange itself might be construed as an attempt to hijack the thread.
