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Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?

Postby Greatest I am » Sat May 16, 2020 2:53 pm

Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor?

Most people see Judas as a traitor in the myth of the crucifixion. Few recognize that Jesus was asking his most trusted disciple, Judas, to turn him over to the Jews and Pilate.

Most are unaware of the meaning of the sop that Jesus gave to Judas at the last supper. Without knowing the definition and meaning of that word, it is not surprising that most think of Judas as they do. The completely wrong way.

A sop is basically a gift or conciliatory bribe, something that seals a deal. That is what Jesus gave Judas, his most trusted disciple. We know he was Jesus’ favorite because he was Jesus’ banker.

Dictionary reference for sop.
Something that is done or given to someone in order to prevent trouble, gain support, etc.
A conciliatory gift or bribe.

Without the betrayal, Jesus would not have died for us, as Yahweh had planned, and scriptures say that Judas also had no choice as that would have derailed god’s plan.

If any blame for Jesus’ death is to be given, it must be to Yahweh, whose plan, scriptures say must come to pass. Meaning that Yahweh would have to control all the players including Judas.

Scriptures show Jesus persuading Judas to do what he would not ordinarily have thought of doing.

Judas believed that Jesus was the messiah who was to rise again to lead the Jews. This lie imposed by Yahweh.

Was Judas a good man doing Jesus’ will or was he a traitor?

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Re: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor

Postby felix dakat » Sat May 16, 2020 5:38 pm

Paradoxically Judas was both a betrayer and one who's action fulfilled God's eternal purpose. The canonical gospels emphasize the former role and the Gospel of Judas emphasizes the latter.
The purpose of my life would seem to be to express the truth as I discover it, but in such a manner that it is completely devoid of authority. By having no authority, by being seen by all as utterly unreliable, I express the truth and put everyone in a contradictory position where they can only save themselves by making the truth their own.
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Re: Was Judas a hero and most trusted disciple, or a traitor

Postby Greatest I am » Thu May 28, 2020 3:14 pm

felix dakat wrote:Paradoxically Judas was both a betrayer and one who's action fulfilled God's eternal purpose. The canonical gospels emphasize the former role and the Gospel of Judas emphasizes the latter.


True.

Christianity did not want to give Judas his earned reward.

Christianity want to blame everyone but Yahweh, who demanded that immoral and unjust sacrifice/bribe in the first place.

They fear badmouthing their genocidal and vengeful satanic god.

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