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Tab wrote:
Anyway, sorry, off-topic.
Ecmandu wrote:Here’s the deal.
This reminds me of Star Wars ...
Jedi is an aristocratic thing.
Same with god and Jesus ...
Just another fucking “pure breed” (nazism)
I hate the Bible to the core of my being. And. I can refute every Jesus quote and every prophet quote.
The Bible is good toilet paper though.
One who is wise, should always accept a free bible, it makes decent toilet paper (and it’s free)
Greatest I am wrote:I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?
Do you follow 1 Thessalonians 5:21, or do you let someone else do your judging for you?
Regards
DL
MagsJ wrote:Greatest I am wrote:I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?
Do you follow 1 Thessalonians 5:21, or do you let someone else do your judging for you?
Regards
DL
Likewise.. the only person allowed to tell me about myself is, and always has been, my mother.. for she only has my best interests at heart, but that doesn’t mean I act on them, but merely listen respectfully.
Too much judging, and not enough perceiving or thinking, makes for a dull and dreary world.. reflective of the intellects exhibiting those, perhaps?
Western teachings, in a more Eastern mind, has seemed to constantly cancel-out all that has tried to take hold of the mind and rule it.. the only thing being adhered to, being the innate.
My response will oversimplify the issue but....Greatest I am wrote:I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?
Greatest I am wrote:I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?
Karpel Tunnel wrote:My response will oversimplify the issue but....Greatest I am wrote:I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?
if someone says they are not their own highest authority, how do they know they chose the right authority?
They have to trust their own ability to recognize that higher authority, and in that way they are, in an important sense, the highest authority.
I have tried to explain this to, for example, fundamentalists, but then also scientists. Neither group was especially open to this idea - in general.
phyllo wrote:If you say "I'm ignorant in this area and I'm going to trust that other guy in this area", then you are making a decision and exercising some judgment about the other guy.
You can do it whether choosing a dentist or ethical system or religion.
But you're not micromanaging the dentist. You're not telling him how to work on your teeth. You're letting him make decisions in his field of expertise.
So what is the question "I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?" asking or suggesting?
If you don't allow someone to guide you, then you don't get the benefit of his/her guidance.
iambiguous wrote:Greatest I am wrote:I am my highest authority, judge and guide. Who is yours?
We'll need a context of course. Someone claims to be his or her own highest authority in regard to a particular set of circumstances.
In regard to a particular thing or in regard to a particular relationship between two or more things.
Then it comes down to demonstrating that his or her own authority is in fact the highest. And, with respect to any number of things in the world of objective reality, anyone who correctly describes with is in fact true for all of us are among those with the highest authority.
And that holds true for Gnostic Christians in turn.
Well, until we come to those things and relationships that most interest me instead...
Tab wrote:I'll tell you a funny story. Funny and sad anyway.
I teach English as a foreign language in a Muslim country. Towards the end of last term the lessons in the classroom next door to mine were cancelled, and two of the students from that class asked if they could sit in on my lesson, I said sure, the more the merrier, knowing that they'd never had a native speaker teacher before.
Anyway, the conversation part of the lesson came around and I thought I'd go have a chat with the two newcomers, while the rest of my usual students got on with it.
One of the two girls, both could speak reasonable english, asked the inevitable question "where are you from" - I said England. Her eyes lit up and she asked if I was a christian. Improv. (and conversational) rules demand a yes, so I fluffed a bit and said "I was brought up a christian." She asked "have you read the bible" so again I (truthfully because I did in my early teens) replied "yes".
Very quickly she told me how she'd been brought up muslim, but converted to christianity. I asked her why, and she explained how she'd read the koran, and the bible, and chosen christianity "because the bible seemed more logical." It was pretty obvious I was the first "natural born christian" she'd met.
I tried my best not to laugh and asked her where exactly in the bible she'd found any logic. Anyway, then she asked me where I went to church. (There are a few here btw.) At that point I had to tell her I had left the church at the age of 14, and was firmly agnostic.
I felt like a bit of a bastard, as the light went straight out of her eyes. I thought she was very courageous tbh. for a Turkish girl to change religions is not an easy thing over here, but at the same time I felt she'd kinda blown it, all that effort to just change one kind of fairy tale for another.
Anyway, sorry, off-topic.
Greatest I am wrote:Close to perfect.MagsJ wrote:Western teachings, in a more Eastern mind, has seemed to constantly cancel-out all that has tried to take hold of the mind and rule it.. the only thing being adhered to, being the innate.
Regards
DL
MagsJ wrote:Greatest I am wrote:Close to perfect.MagsJ wrote:Western teachings, in a more Eastern mind, has seemed to constantly cancel-out all that has tried to take hold of the mind and rule it.. the only thing being adhered to, being the innate.
Regards
DL
I don’t feel it though, DL.. I often feel that my methodology grates with that of others, but I’m working on that aspect.. in not getting deterred.
Now I think I know what the bible alluded to, about being born with original sin, but it sure ain’t all of us as I’ve always taken umbrage to that.. better to follow a non-religious individual-creating guidance than a religious dogma that breeds negativity into its adherents, but there’s no money in that.. is there?
The planet could indeed be brought up to a better level, but are populations up to the job?
Greatest I am wrote:Thanks all.
Seems that many no longer strive to be the fittest.
Not too surprising given the likely age group.
Regards
DL
Fixed Cross wrote:
Eroded values like all atheist values confused not definitive
No atheist was ever not confused
Nor are they to blame for finding organized religions and their texts stupid
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