“As for choosing the stuffed animal, how many times and on how many children was this done? How do we really know why the child chose one over the other?”
I do realize that the above is not what the thread is about.”
No sweat buddy.
I recognize my bias. I would not insult you with a list of links or a read this or that book response.

Why would I take that as an insult? The question was more or less rhetorical.
I have been looking about for many years.
What does this mean ~~ that you have been observing many things?
I just hope our biases are not too far apart and one of us learns something from the exchange.
Well, I would hope that both of us would learn something from the exchange.
But who is the "one of us" who you were referring to? Hmmm?

I think that a pleasure and hope one of us gets it.
I did not at first understand the above. I would have emphasized "that".
I sense that we do think along the same lines. There is that "one of us" again.
How would you define the "it" which you are referring to?
Gnostic Christians are naturalists; that is a part of our ideology. We recognize ourselves and all humans as the top of the line that nature has yet to best.
As in the below:
In philosophy, naturalism is the "idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces operate in the world."[1] Adherents of naturalism (i.e., naturalists) assert that natural laws are the rules that govern the structure and behavior of the natural universe, that the changing universe at every stage is a product of these laws.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalism_(philosophy)
I suppose that I might then also call myself a naturalist.
But all humans, Greatest I Am? Some humans, as far as I am concerned, are way below the animals in the food chain.
But what about a beautiful dolphin, an elephant, a wolf?
You might have heard of the Cathar Parfait.
No, never heard of them. I am not that knowledgeable. But i just looked them up.
So you obviously are not a cather which can be seen by your own writings.
“Like baby animals? How old are you saying that we are in the above case? Are we really thinking in terms of morality or in terms of what our needs are?”
We are baby animals, so yes, like baby animals.
I guess that old here would be about 12ish as the age of reason pops out about then. Males and females vary as well.
Why would you hold it to be as late as 12 years of age? But individually speaking, it may vary a little. I might think that it would have to based on the child's maturity level, historical background, brain patterns, lol, et cetera.
What Is the ‘Age of Reason?’
Around the age of seven, give or take a year, children enter a developmental phase known as the age of reason. “The age of reason refers to the developmental cognitive, emotional, and moral stage in which children become more capable of rational thought, have internalized a conscience, and have better capacity to control impulses (than in previous stages),” explains Dana Dorfman, PhD, psychotherapist, and co-host of the podcast 2 Moms on the Couch.
It’s the time when a child starts to truly grasp the difference between right and wrong, and begins to realize that other people have their own feelings that might not match his or hers.
https://www.scholastic.com/parents/fami ... eason.html
That was a cute little video with the children but they are just children albeit we both know that many adults would act in that way even though not believing that Alice was there.
Insofar as the PAS, in other words, it does not matter who may be watching. You will always act in the same way ~~ ethically? Of course, what he says is true. There are individuals who, if they could get away with something, like robbing a bank and no one would know it, they would do it. There are also those who never would.
There are those who believe in an omniscient God and who believe in hell and still act immorally.
There are those who do not believe in a God or do question one's existence and still would not act immorally, unethically or without integrity.
It all comes down to an individual's human factor, one's values, and one's sense and knowledge of Self.
I think that we need more than to just purge the world of evil by doing good, though that does help of course. I think that that can be kind of a meaningless automatic response in many people because it is something that is expected of them either from others or by a God. I also think that it is really, really important to know ourselves, to see our dark side and what it makes us capable of doing as humans and to reflect on that.
“Think before you act. "To do no harm".
Knowing that we will all do harm, I prefer Try to mitigate the harm you will do.
We will not do harm in all circumstances. I think that weighing the pros and cons before one acts works too. I try to be a benign consequentialist

I am a contrary sod. Apologies.
Why are you apologizing? Have you done something to hurt me?
I myself rather enjoy my own contrariness when it is real.
Which kind are you?
“So it can simply be about ignoring the person which says that he is not important enough to be bothered about. Which actually can be a wise thing to do. Lol”
I don’t know. I try not to sink too much into psychobabble stuff. That is as bad as the supernatural.
Really? You mean to say that you do not like to discover what makes people tick?
How is trying to understand the human mind the same as believing in the supernatural?
What about seeing another way of looking at something?
I am French and would think more like, did something just touch me, and was that you, Troue de Q, as the eyes dare the Tabarnac to do it again.
You are French. From France, Canada...
Can you explain what you meant by the above. It did sound interesting.
"Did something just touch me..." That vaguely reminds me of something. Oh, I think it was Christ who said it to the woman in the bible who touched the hem of his garment.
But again, please explain what that means.
Jesus was a runner,
Are you speaking metaphorically here? I am sure that in all of his 33 years he had some occasions in which to run possibly from those who at times wanted to stone him.
But what are YOU saying here?
but also had a temper.
Why not as there was supposedly that human side. But the question is what did he choose to do with that temper.
He was married.![]()
It always makes me smile when I see this or someone says it. I do hope that you were being facetious?
Thinking practically, how much sense would it have made to tie himself down like that. Did not the Son of God have a mission to fulfill? Why would he tie himself down to a family? No logic in that. Celibacy can be a great thing under certain circumstances. It allows a person to use his sexual energy to belong to the world, to give his heart all inclusively to the world, not to a woman and children, (which would have probably been a hindrance to him) and to live in a sense within his own spiritual seclusion (for lack of a better way to express it).
I hate how the quote format work for my own failings. Apologies for this lay out.
Hakuna Matata. I actually thought that your layout was clear as opposed to mine sometimes which are not.
You type with only two fingers?!
Regards to you too.