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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:51 pm

Dan~ wrote:How can we realize what is best?
Some christians would cut strait to the source: God is the best, biggest, smartest, etc.
Without God what comes up second-place?
Life on earth, i would say.
Life is more frightening when God is gone.
Death can be accepted. Pain can be accepted.
But these things are not desirable.
If all life on earth suffered greatly, life would be a hell-like experience.
Death would be preferable in that case.
Pleasant life calls to us to embrace what we have.
Happy life is the preference over death and pain.

I'm not sure i know where i am going with this.
I posted it anyway.


Jesus saw heaven when he looked at life on earth. So do I. Jesus does say that there are few of us who will see it.

It is demonstrable that we live in the only possible world. It thus must be the best of all possible worlds, given our history.

Sure we all have a wish list to improve things but that does not refute the premise I put.

Look around and see how well off we all are. To the point where only the minority will have any real problems in life.

Things have been really improving for the last 50 to 70 years but we have been on an upwards swing for 200 years. Poverty is almost a thing of the past, for instance, as we have pulled a billion over the poverty line in the last 20 years and they estimate we will do the same in the next 20 years.

Things are great and the trends will continue.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Ierrellus » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:33 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
Dan~ wrote:How can we realize what is best?
Some christians would cut strait to the source: God is the best, biggest, smartest, etc.
Without God what comes up second-place?
Life on earth, i would say.
Life is more frightening when God is gone.
Death can be accepted. Pain can be accepted.
But these things are not desirable.
If all life on earth suffered greatly, life would be a hell-like experience.
Death would be preferable in that case.
Pleasant life calls to us to embrace what we have.
Happy life is the preference over death and pain.

I'm not sure i know where i am going with this.
I posted it anyway.


Jesus saw heaven when he looked at life on earth. So do I. Jesus does say that there are few of us who will see it.

It is demonstrable that we live in the only possible world. It thus must be the best of all possible worlds, given our history.

Sure we all have a wish list to improve things but that does not refute the premise I put.

Look around and see how well off we all are. To the point where only the minority will have any real problems in life.

Things have been really improving for the last 50 to 70 years but we have been on an upwards swing for 200 years. Poverty is almost a thing of the past, for instance, as we have pulled a billion over the poverty line in the last 20 years and they estimate we will do the same in the next 20 years.

Things are great and the trends will continue.

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Where do you get your information about progress and poverty?
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Feb 19, 2020 1:55 pm

Ierrellus wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
Dan~ wrote:How can we realize what is best?


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Where do you get your information about progress and poverty?


I have many sources. Here is a sampling that should satisfy. The violence reduction stats are at the end of the last link and if you need more, that scholar has ton's in the net as well.

For finance.

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2013/ ... of-poverty

Here is how that looks visually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo

The stats from Pinker are near the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLulcfyqrc0

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Ierrellus » Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:23 pm

Does this progress from poverty include American Natives? These references do not seem to speak for indigenous people.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Wed Feb 19, 2020 3:35 pm

Ierrellus wrote:Does this progress from poverty include American Natives? These references do not seem to speak for indigenous people.


I believe that the stats are all inclusive but you would have to check the parameters the statisticians used.

Both of the links were made for international consumption and I trust that both had decent survey methods.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Wed Jun 24, 2020 10:08 pm

I'd like to talk to you about automatic thoughts.
These are thoughts which come up without you trying to think them.
Manual thoughts come about in accord with your will, intentions, and motivation.
Sensing energy begins with sensing your own thoughts and their energy.
Sensing starts with inner sight. Internal sensing.
Then we realize that the inner and outer world are inter connected.
They are unified, too.
This turns inner sight into external sight.
This turns subconscious into conscious.
Inside your mind, you can create thoughts and thought-forms.
You can change your internal landscape.
You can change what you are.
Meditation on seeing your inner energy is key for this, potentially.


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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:07 am

Dan~ wrote:
I'd like to talk to you about automatic thoughts.
These are thoughts which come up without you trying to think them.
Manual thoughts come about in accord with your will, intentions, and motivation.
Sensing energy begins with sensing your own thoughts and their energy.
Sensing starts with inner sight. Internal sensing.
Then we realize that the inner and outer world are inter connected.
They are unified, too.
This turns inner sight into external sight.
This turns subconscious into conscious.
Inside your mind, you can create thoughts and thought-forms.
You can change your internal landscape.
You can change what you are.
Meditation on seeing your inner energy is key for this, potentially.


https://youtu.be/SjvhDVWfrFU
I made a youtube video for this subject.



Dude! Dan!

That was awesome!
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Thu Jun 25, 2020 1:33 am

Ecmandu wrote:Dude! Dan!

That was awesome!


Aw, thank you so much.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:04 am

Who really values peace?
Peace is the natural state of things when left alone.
If you learn how to leave yourself alone,
you will master peace.
Peace is free, and automatic.
I love peace, but I can only handle so much of it.
Maybe i can change that later on.
Feel the peace around you.
The majority of reality is at peace.
Peace is invisible.
It's not a thing it is a condition of a thing.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:50 am

Anyone who looks with anguish on evils so great must acknowledge the tragedy of it all; and if anyone experiences them without anguish, his condition is even more tragic, since he remains serene by losing his humanity. – Augustine of Hippo
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:51 pm

It seems that the plan is now:
Make a booth for electricity, shower, sink, etc.
Then park around the booth, used campers.
The kind that are insulated for winter.
I'm guessing ill have around 3 campers,
so 2 people can move in, and that will be it for that time.
They can worry less about money when living in that situation.
So they can focus more on meditation, study, spirituality, etc.
Also during the warm months tents can be set up besides the campers.

This will be many years from now.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Meno_ » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:03 pm

Dan: if You could extend this personal quest/project to a social policy, ; If 1/3 rd of the population - the middle third, and the rest of the 1/3 rd could fit into this formula, & the final privileged 1/3 rd should not have to worry about social discord , then :

It could become a great plan. Further , if You'd be willing to run this November, I'd write You in, and You would not have to wait for years in the future.

However, and no kidding aside, it does sound great nevertheless, and I'd be one of the first ones to apply.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:38 pm

Meno_ wrote:Dan: if You could extend this personal quest/project to a social policy, ; If 1/3 rd of the population - the middle third, and the rest of the 1/3 rd could fit into this formula, & the final privileged 1/3 rd should not have to worry about social discord , then :

It could become a great plan. Further , if You'd be willing to run this November, I'd write You in, and You would not have to wait for years in the future.

However, and no kidding aside, it does sound great nevertheless, and I'd be one of the first ones to apply.


Thank you.
Do you live in Canada also?
I live in Edmonton Alberta.

Donations could help bring more into the system by providing more housing and utilities.
I'm not sure about the legalities, but I could easily phone a house building company, and they would know a lot of the technical details.

If I had it my way, id bring in a lot of people, and they could use this as a way to live with more ease and finesse.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Dan~ » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:02 am

I've tried to entertain the theory of God.
It comes down to the idea that God is fragmented and not all-powerful,
but he is very strong and very good.
It took me a long time to come to this conclusion.
Pagan gods are valid because they are also
not all-powerful but some are quite good and strong.

God didn't prevent extinction events because he cant.
When you pray, and you get some kind of answer,
it is not very direct. it is strange and subtle.
God wont cure your disease when you are sick.
Because he can't. Nobody can within your psychic range.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Destiny » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:31 pm

Jesus could heal the sick.
So you are saying he was more powerful than God!
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Tue Feb 09, 2021 8:46 pm

Destiny wrote:Jesus could heal the sick.
So you are saying he was more powerful than God!


Let us pray and make it so. That way, he might be able to break his genocidal ways and not do Armageddon as foretold.

Nice that it is only a myth, and shows Jesus retiring Yahweh when Jesus ascended. Let's hope the hand of god can choke out the genocidal Yahweh side.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby WendyDarling » Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:28 pm

Dan~ wrote:I've tried to entertain the theory of God.
It comes down to the idea that God is fragmented and not all-powerful,
but he is very strong and very good.
It took me a long time to come to this conclusion.
Pagan gods are valid because they are also
not all-powerful but some are quite good and strong.

God didn't prevent extinction events because he cant.
When you pray, and you get some kind of answer,
it is not very direct. it is strange and subtle.
God wont cure your disease when you are sick.
Because he can't. Nobody can within your psychic range.

When your soul/consciousness is eternal, what would an extinction event even mean in regards to the eternal? God’s energy never dies, your energy never dies. Adam and Eve never needed to eat from the tree of life for they were designed to continue on forever. I think in the Old Testament Bible, the first earth bound humans lived around 1000 years or so in a human body, not even taking into account the immortality of their souls. What does extinction mean to an immortality that cannot truly die?
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby promethean75 » Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:06 pm

You don't really believe any of that stuff you just said, do ya? That stuff is just dumb all over, wendy. You can't be serious.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby iambiguous » Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:12 pm

WendyDarling wrote:When your soul/consciousness is eternal, what would an extinction event even mean in regards to the eternal? God’s energy never dies, your energy never dies. Adam and Eve never needed to eat from the tree of life for they were designed to continue on forever. I think in the Old Testament Bible, the first earth bound humans lived around 1000 years or so in a human body, not even taking into account the immortality of their souls. What does extinction mean to an immortality that cannot truly die?


Okay, but what if your soul is a libtard? Hell for sure?
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby WendyDarling » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:23 am

iambiguous wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:When your soul/consciousness is eternal, what would an extinction event even mean in regards to the eternal? God’s energy never dies, your energy never dies. Adam and Eve never needed to eat from the tree of life for they were designed to continue on forever. I think in the Old Testament Bible, the first earth bound humans lived around 1000 years or so in a human body, not even taking into account the immortality of their souls. What does extinction mean to an immortality that cannot truly die?


Okay, but what if your soul is a libtard? Hell for sure?

Libtards are in their own Hell already, dissatisfied with life in general but plastered on their faces, the fascade of the big shit eating grin to cover up how empty they actually are inside.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby WendyDarling » Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:27 am

promethean75 wrote:You don't really believe any of that stuff you just said, do ya? That stuff is just dumb all over, wendy. You can't be serious.

Immortal souls, Hell’s yes! To not believe that there is more to your consciousness than meets the eye is what’s really dumb.
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:32 pm

WendyDarling wrote:[To not believe that there is more to your consciousness than meets the eye is what’s really dumb.


To believe anything without evidence or proof is showing a lack of intelligence.

That is why the ancients invented the word "faith".

Then literal reading believers could not be called stupid, just delusional.

Faith without facts is for fools.

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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:17 pm

Greatest I am wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:[To not believe that there is more to your consciousness than meets the eye is what’s really dumb.


To believe anything without evidence or proof is showing a lack of intelligence.

That is why the ancients invented the word "faith".

Then literal reading believers could not be called stupid, just delusional.

Faith without facts is for fools.

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You have faith in a lot of things without facts, such as the sun rising tomorrow or taking your next breath, but I’d never imply that you are a delusional fool, just a stupid asshole to think that I don’t have my proof.

Peter Kropotkin tells all about facts in my signature. Not only do facts change but they don’t mean anything. :lol: :evilfun:
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Re: Plans for a religion

Postby Greatest I am » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:19 am

WendyDarling wrote:
Greatest I am wrote:
WendyDarling wrote:[To not believe that there is more to your consciousness than meets the eye is what’s really dumb.


To believe anything without evidence or proof is showing a lack of intelligence.

That is why the ancients invented the word "faith".

Then literal reading believers could not be called stupid, just delusional.

Faith without facts is for fools.

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You have faith in a lot of things without facts, such as the sun rising tomorrow or taking your next breath, but I’d never imply that you are a delusional fool, just a stupid asshole to think that I don’t have my proof.

Peter Kropotkin tells all about facts in my signature. Not only do facts change but they don’t mean anything. :lol: :evilfun:


You have faith in the sun rising and your next breath on the know fact that those will likely keep repeating.

Your faith in the genocidal prick you adore is not based on anything but hear say.

Stupid is as stupid does and adoring a genocidal god shows your lack of a moral sense.

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