Without ______ life would be a _________.

[Ichthus77]

It’s a dirty job that’s never done.

Here’s to new things!

#blessthismess

How does the "mess" become "blessed"

Without jazz life would be monotonal.

[Arcturus Descending]

It’s a dirty job that’s never done.

Here’s to new things!

#blessthismess

How does the "mess" become "blessed"

Without jazz life would be monotonal.

I absolutely love slow, slow jazz.

Perhaps you were using "jazz" as a metaphor though.

[Ichthus77]

yes

I prefer messy jazz like I prefer to let the day go better than I planned it… the plan is not blessed… the messy day is blessed/best. Not all messes are disasters. Even a disaster can be an adventure. There’s one that still scares me worse than physical death.

[Arcturus Descending]

"Ichthus77"

I prefer messy jazz like I prefer to let the day go better than I planned it… the plan is not blessed…

The plan might just be blessed based on the outcome. Perhaps even if the outcome were not what we were going for - the plan might still have been blessed.

the messy day is blessed/best.

Cup half full or all full? lol

Not all messes are disasters.

A very good way of thinking to stay balanced.

Even a disaster can be an adventure.

Perhaps not so much to those who are experiencing them. There may be another word for that.

There’s one that still scares me worse than physical death.

I do not mean to be presumptuous here - loss o a loved one? Or perhaps loss of your faith/belief.

[Ichthus77]

spiritually bonding (consensually) ¿again? (if I/we ever really did) with anyone other than God… (and even if we didn’t… how long will I be in mourning? will he never know/care how it was/is for me?)…

goofy stuff like that that makes it easier not to feel, but at times demands recognition (insert cusswords)

they in whom i trust doesn't change (though subsuming change), but i and all others do

Without unresolved issues life would be less suspenseful & intriguing.

[Mr Reasonable]

yes

I prefer messy jazz like I prefer to let the day go better than I planned it… the plan is not blessed… the messy day is blessed/best. Not all messes are disasters. Even a disaster can be an adventure. There’s one that still scares me worse than physical death.

when you're strolling the streets in new orleans and there is jazz coming out of a half dozen bars on the same block and it all just blends together

[Ichthus77]

#noise

[MagsJ]

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Whoever said this: “Without unresolved issues life would be less suspenseful & intriguing.”,
is a masochist.. because it is a very idiotic and self-hindering (both spiritually and emotionally) perspective to harbour.

I think, what really happened, is that the person learned to like it.. so, Indicative.

..and, I thank you. [takes a bow]




[all rhetorical, so any reply not welcome]

[Ichthus77]

This is my thread. Welcome!

Why are you here?

Are you here?

Where is here?

*gentle breeze blows between us*

*it sighs*

mysteryyyyyyyyyyyy

*tumbleweed rolls past*

*it starts to rain*

[MagsJ]

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Deflection, with subjective nonsense.. I think, to myself.

[Ichthus77]

Go pull some weeds.

[MagsJ]

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Now 'dictator wannabe'? ..read this, go there, think that, feel that, do this/do that, be that!

Philosophy?

[Lorikeet]

Theocracy...
Abrahamism.
Thou shall not....
Authoritarianism.
Envy.

*****
Thou shall worship no other gods.
I am everywhere and everything....
Omnipresent.
Totalitarianism

These types easy adapt to Marxism.

[Ichthus77]

there’s a lot you can enjoy in line with self=other

jealousy is not an argument

don’t get me started on Marx

[Lorikeet]

Oh shit...not more Venn diagrams!!!!

[Ichthus77]

protest too much, much?

[Mr Reasonable]

i dunno if youve ever fucked with any tumbleweeds but they dont gently roll past. those fucking things can be huge and can go really fast and can fuck up your car. i was somewhere in oklahoma back in the day driving through the middle of nowhere and a whole gang of those bitches were just bouncing and flying all over the fucking place like a mob of them looking to do violence. theyre made of branches and sticks and could probably kill a small, or even a medium sized child.

[Ichthus77]

When I worked for a hotel practically in the sticks (at the time) (which was not all that long ago)… the tumbleweeds were a real nuisance. It was like the fricken wild west out there. For reals.

[Arcturus Descending]

"Ichthus77"] spiritually bonding (consensually) ¿again? (if I/we ever really did) with anyone other than God… (and even if we didn’t… how long will I be in mourning? will he never know/care how it was/is for me?)…

goofy stuff like that that makes it easier not to feel, but at times demands recognition (insert cusswords)

Ichthus, Was it you who said the first part here? Can you explain it?

My sense of it, and I can be wrong, is that we need to ask ourselves the question: Is it better to have loved and lost then to not have loved at all?

It would have depended on the individual who we loved and lost. I can say that it is better to have loved and lost (certain individuals) than not to have ever met and loved. Some people just enrich us and we are more blessed for having known them. It can be a double-edged sword but it just depends on which side of it we decide to caress.

they in whom i trust doesn't change (though subsuming change), but i and all others do

Are you speaking of God here?

Without unresolved issues life would be less suspenseful & intriguing.

On the other side of that coin, that might depend on whether or not those issues hurt us and keep us from moving forward.
Life can be very suspenseful and intriguing in a good, enriching way. One never knows what lies around the corner.

I do realize though that there are some issues which cannot be resolved in the present mome

Below is one of my all-time favorite quotes. It never ceases to give me the shivers when I read it. It sooooo resonates....

“Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves, like locked rooms and like books that are now written in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer.”

― Rainer Maria Rilke

[Ichthus77]

"Ichthus77"] spiritually bonding (consensually) ¿again? (if I/we ever really did) with anyone other than God… (and even if we didn’t… how long will I be in mourning? will he never know/care how it was/is for me?)…

goofy stuff like that that makes it easier not to feel, but at times demands recognition (insert cusswords)

Ichthus, Was it you who said the first part here? Can you explain it?

Tell me who it felt like, and I will explain it.

My sense of it, and I can be wrong, is that we need to ask ourselves the question: Is it better to have loved and lost than to not have loved at all?

It would have depended on the individual who we loved and lost. I can say that it is better to have loved and lost (certain individuals) than not to have ever met and loved. Some people just enrich us and we are more blessed for having known them. It can be a double-edged sword but it just depends on which side of it we decide to caress.

True, regardless who it felt like. But every person is their own person & cannot (should not) stand in for anyone else.

they in whom i trust doesn't change (though subsuming change), but i and all others do

Are you speaking of God here?

Yes.

Without unresolved issues life would be less suspenseful & intriguing.

On the other side of that coin, that might depend on whether or not those issues hurt us and keep us from moving forward.
Life can be very suspenseful and intriguing in a good, enriching way. One never knows what lies around the corner.

I do realize though that there are some issues which cannot be resolved in the present mome

Do you think there will be/is a time/place (moment?) when/where all issues are resolved?

Below is one of my all-time favorite quotes. It never ceases to give me the shivers when I read it. It sooooo resonates....

“Be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and try to love the questions themselves, like locked rooms and like books that are now written in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer.”

― Rainer Maria Rilke

Beautiful. The seeking is in the living.

Now. Today.