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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:54 am

God loves pedophiles, and wants to see them turn. Some of them already have.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 2:58 am

God knows everyone’s situation. God knows all the mitigating factors. S/he who is forgiven more, loves more.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:52 am

Ichthus77 wrote:God loves pedophiles, and wants to see them turn. Some of them already have.



Of course god loves pedophiles. God created pedophelia when god had a choice not to and then not only made pedophilia but also made pedophiles when god had a choice to not make a pedophile.

What’s your point?

That everything is good just because god stated it in genesis?

Except for eating shellfish?
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Aug 03, 2022 5:12 am

Ecmandu wrote:
Ichthus77 wrote:God loves pedophiles, and wants to see them turn. Some of them already have.



Of course god loves pedophiles. God created pedophelia when god had a choice not to and then not only made pedophilia but also made pedophiles when god had a choice to not make a pedophile.

What’s your point?

That everything is good just because god stated it in genesis?

Except for eating shellfish?


Let’s ask a more serious question. Genesis is god talking, not his son. God is perfect right?

Why does god who was perfect have to change his mind so many times in the form of new covenants???

Does god evolve?

Is god ever perfect?

These are very serious questions not just about your fairytale book, but about things actually spoken by the lead character... god.

Why is there no red print in the Old Testament?

Is it because god didn’t say it?

Is the whole Old Testament a lie?

God made like 5 different covenants in the Bible.

Gods perfect?

What about the Book of Mormon?

Is it a false convenant?
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 6:26 am

lol

you gonna keep asking questions until you get a whole idiot’s guide to systematic theology outta me?
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Aug 03, 2022 3:05 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:lol

you gonna keep asking questions until you get a whole idiot’s guide to systematic theology outta me?


Your problem is that there’s the Jewish Bible, and in an attempt to make Christianity valid, they just tacked it onto the end of the Jewish Bible. Jews aren’t happy about this faking legitimacy by appending their Bible.

You’re a Christian, not a Mormon correct?

The Koran did the same, then the Book of Mormon did the same.

In all this. God changed his mind many times. The Jews don’t believe god changes his mind.

One covenant that god made to the Jews is to never work on the Sabbath. Then Jesus comes along with the parable of helping a cart stuck in a ditch on the sabbath, and you should help them by working.

That’s a broken covenant. Jews believe that’s impossible. They reject the New Testament. They reject Jesus.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:42 pm

You know that I know that you already know that you’re talking BS and that Jesus was confronting things added and not actually in the Law & the Prophets (like hate your enemies). Although he even sort of a corrects Moses on divorce.

Cuz why, Ec? Cuz why?
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:59 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:You know that I know that you already know that you’re talking BS and that Jesus was confronting things added and not actually in the Law & the Prophets (like hate your enemies). Although he even sort of a corrects Moses on divorce.

Cuz why, Ec? Cuz why?


This isn’t the issue.

Did god change a covenant?

Jews believe that’s impossible.

This even goes back to the beginning of genesis where god rested on the 7th say.

That’s the sabbath. It’s an unbreakable covenant between god and his chosen people.

Jesus contradicted God.

From the Jewish perspective Jesus does not fulfill the law. These aren’t prophets, genesis is gods OWN WORDS.

Anyways the whole thing is insane.

But even given that, you can make enough sense out of a totally insane book and refute Jesus from genesis.

Are you a Mormon? If not, why not? Why would you expect a Jew to be a Christian?
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 7:20 pm

I’ll reply a bit later on. One more assignment & then I will indulge Mr/Ms/Mrs Persistent.

P.s. There should be a DEFINITELY married version of Mr!
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:04 pm

I’ll add and to reiterate something I wrote earlier.

Nobody chooses to go to hell under any possible circumstance.

Why? Definitional logic. Hell is defined as a situation a person does not want to experience.

By definition, hell is a place a person doesn’t want to be. If they want to be there, it’s not hell.

You can’t define a piece of paper as a geode and expect anything less than people thinking your Jesus god shit is insane.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:55 am

I’m gonna leave it to you to go read some systematic theologies and other comparative religion stuff on Mormonism (no, I’m not Mormon). There’s plenty of stuff out there and I got distracted with something else I’m working on… which is rather uncanny, because you’re now saying some of the keywords I’m working on. So you’re either spying on me, or it’s business as usual for me. Synchronicity does not surprise me anymore, but I do tend to pay attention (if not willfully ignore). Anyways. I might share some of it later.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:57 am

1. Do you think there are choices you can make
—without patching existence—
that have positive outcomes?

2. Do you consider all outcomes you do not like to be hell?
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:03 am

Ichthus77 wrote:1. Do you think there are choices you can make
—without patching existence—
that have positive outcomes?

2. Do you consider all outcomes you do not like to be hell?


In a world system / realm like this...

If you win at something it will hurt more than one person.

If you lose at something, it will hurt you.

For a hyper empath, all of it hurts, and it will forever.

Hyper empaths are eternally damned people.

Nice people: eternally damned.

Life is different when you have a conscience.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:03 am

So (according to you) if you choose lose, you choose hell?
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:23 am

Ichthus77 wrote:So (according to you) if you choose lose, you choose hell?


Nobody chooses to lose. Some parents might throw a game so their 5 year old can be happy they won.

But that might be child abuse.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:32 am

Let’s say they didn’t cheat or anything. If their five-year-old is happy about winning, then somebody else’s five-year-old is sad about losing, according to you, right? So, to you, everyone chooses lose (sad) when they choose win (happy). So (to you) they choose hell. According to you.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Aug 04, 2022 4:44 am

Ichthus77 wrote:Let’s say they didn’t cheat or anything. If their five-year-old is happy about winning, then somebody else’s five-year-old is sad about losing, according to you, right? So, to you, everyone chooses lose (sad) when they choose win (happy). So (to you) they choose hell. According to you.


Losing is not a choice. What are the stakes of throwing a board game or a boxing match or a baseball game compared to all existence?

Not much in the grand scheme.

Throwing away the grand scheme is infinite loss for everyone forever.

Jesus should have never spoken another word...

The most important message anyone could have, can or will ever send is: “if anyone is bothered by something, this isn’t working”

Finally we have something REAL that thousands of years of humans can ponder.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:08 am

So — unless you stop all sports ever — you’re suddenly okay violating pleasurable exclusive access by choosing to let a 5-year-old win a game lost by another 5-year-old? In choosing win/heaven, you always choose lose/hell! According to you.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:12 am

Ichthus77 wrote:So — unless you stop all sports ever — you’re suddenly okay violating pleasurable exclusive access by choosing to let a 5-year-old win a game lost by another 5-year-old? In choosing win/heaven, you always choose lose/hell! According to you.


Ok. The only circumstance someone chooses to throw a game, even though games in and of themselves are bad, is when they perceive that they’ll make a greater profit from throwing it. So. They don’t actually lose.

But. Their deception is spirit abuse.

It’s like telling a child Santa exists.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:40 am

You are somethin else.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:45 pm

Try this one on for size Ichthus ...

The book of revelation clearly states that only 144,000 people will enter heaven.

There’s a whole religion based on this... the jehovas witnesses.

Why aren’t you a jehovas witness?

You like to quote revelation to make your arguments.

From my perspective, kind hyper empaths are damned forever.

Unless the patch is complete. Then they can know that they don’t have to worry anymore.

Then they’re in their personal heaven forever.

There’s enough raw material (infinite) to allow us an individual heaven forever without boredom or being hurt.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:49 pm

Ok. Let’s do this thang.
https://youtu.be/GCMtwS1mNxc
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:44 pm

… still working on something doh!
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ichthus77 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:14 pm

Ec, you rejected “genius” label, commented that you wouldn’t ego-react, and now, when I said you’re something else… you shifted emphasis.

Just an observation.
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Re: For you god weirdos....

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:30 pm

Ichthus77 wrote:Ec, you rejected “genius” label, commented that you wouldn’t ego-react, and now, when I said you’re something else… you shifted emphasis.

Just an observation.


I’m a being from a different universe. I have a job here... patching all existence... analog.

They didn’t send a moron here.
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