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Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Gloominary » Fri May 07, 2021 2:41 pm

Protest turns into scuffle after motorist and ‘volunteer security’ aim GUNS at each other

https://www.rt.com/usa/523164-armed-standoff-at-portland-protest/

Dramatic video of an armed standoff in Portland, Oregon has been shared widely on Twitter. It shows a group of protesters aiming their guns at a pistol-wielding motorist before tackling and disarming him at a blocked intersection.
In the 28-second clip, the armed group aims at the driver of a red truck and tells him to put his “f**king gun down!” The video then skips to a later moment in the confrontation in which the driver gets out of the vehicle and is surrounded.

Shouts of “Get the weapon!” and “Get him on the ground!” are heard as the driver is gang-tackled after pulling out an object that appears to be a weapon and points it at the group.

According to the Portland Police Bureau, at roughly 12:12pm on Wednesday, officers were dispatched after receiving a report of a pedestrian struck by a car at a street protest near North Interstate Avenue and North Killingsworth Street in a residential area of the city.

When officers arrived, they “did not find any pedestrians who claimed to have been struck,” the police statement noted, adding that the “large group had moved away... some openly carrying firearms.”

By then, additional calls had come in from people whose vehicles were blocked by the crowd. Per the statement, one person told police the crowd had “broken their vehicle windows, damaged tires, and sprayed them with some kind of irritant” near the intersection.

The video posted on Twitter on Thursday by Durham Operations (the account’s description states it is a “propagandist for radicals”) was then shared by Portland-based journalist Andy Ngo, who attributed the incident to Black Lives Matter and Antifa, using hashtags.

Portland Police spokesman Lt. Greg Pashley told the channel that it was fortunate the violent scuffle did not escalate further.

“People need to voice whatever their concern is, but they need to do it in a way that’s reasonable, that’s lawful; otherwise, we run into very dangerous situations, where it sounds like we’re really lucky there wasn’t some very violent confrontation,” Pashley said.

Police are investigating both this incident and another altercation that appeared to have occurred elsewhere during the march.

In that incident, footage of which was livestreamed by Portland-based YouTuber PDXNinja, a person in another vehicle got into a dispute with demonstrators after being blocked by the march near North Alberta Street and North Michigan Avenue.

The individual was surrounded and had a firearm, tools and keys taken from him, according to the police statement, which also notes that “one person was transported by ambulance to the hospital following the altercations.”
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 07, 2021 5:34 pm

lol andy ngo dude that guy's whole schtick it creating this kind of theater for you
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Fixed Cross » Sat May 08, 2021 8:59 pm



This was pretty interesting.

Even when I was there in 1998, inner San Fransisco was prettymuch a trash-heap. I was in Seattle a few years later, that hadn't decayed as it has now, as well as in Portland which seemed pretty quiet and almost unhumanly boring. Ive never been in such a stifled city. I was there for a raw-foodist convention, extremely stifled type of people. It doesn't surprise me that carnage is breaking loose in these dead, stifled holes.
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby MagsJ » Wed May 12, 2021 7:16 pm

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Re. the OP/US current-affairs.. Yawn!

Grow up man.
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby obsrvr524 » Thu May 13, 2021 10:04 pm

It's all by design. Even O'Biden professes that all of the joblessness, border invasion, criminality, inflation, energy deprivation, distrust in democratic processes, cancel culture, drug usage, policing negation, disease enhancements, and so on prove that "Our plan is working" - Joe Biden.

And if anyone attempts to do anything that actually works to prevent any of it, the global socialists will use O'Biden to rubber stamp policies that prevent the prevention.

MagsJ wrote:_
Grow up man.

Yes - "grow up man". Accept it. Stop interfering. "Nothing to see here - Move on". Stop trying to help. Stop drawing attention to it.

It's just progress.
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby MagsJ » Thu May 13, 2021 10:32 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
MagsJ wrote:Grow up man.
Yes - "grow up man". Accept it. Stop interfering. "Nothing to see here - Move on". Stop trying to help. Stop drawing attention to it.

It's just progress.

Lol.. that’s not even close to what I meant. Why ever would you think I did?

The violence, the confrontations, the lawlessness.. it’s too much to stomach, and yet that’s all still allowed to go on.. school-yard dramas, but with guns and free-rein.
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby obsrvr524 » Thu May 13, 2021 10:48 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
MagsJ wrote:Grow up man.
Yes - "grow up man". Accept it. Stop interfering. "Nothing to see here - Move on". Stop trying to help. Stop drawing attention to it.

It's just progress.

"And for God's sake stop investing and thinking about US. We are the good guys. Go find out something to hate about THEM!"
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu May 13, 2021 10:52 pm

obsrvr524: It's all by design. Even O'Biden professes that all of the joblessness, border invasion, criminality, inflation, energy deprivation, distrust in democratic processes, cancel culture, drug usage, policing negation, disease enhancements, and so on prove that "Our plan is working" - Joe Biden.

And if anyone attempts to do anything that actually works to prevent any of it, the global socialists will use O'Biden to rubber stamp policies that prevent the prevention.

K: more TIN FOIL HAT stuff... I am hoping for something new, not just the old recycle
crap you bring up.... maybe some new conspiracies to liven things up.....the same old
conspiracies are just not interesting anymore....

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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 7:13 am

MagsJ wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:
MagsJ wrote:Grow up man.
Yes - "grow up man". Accept it. Stop interfering. "Nothing to see here - Move on". Stop trying to help. Stop drawing attention to it.

It's just progress.

Lol.. that’s not even close to what I meant. Why ever would you think I did?

The violence, the confrontations, the lawlessness.. it’s too much to stomach, and yet that’s all still allowed to go on.. school-yard dramas, but with guns and free-rein.



yeah the right wing in american takes billions from the gun lobbyists and they rabidly oppose and proposal to do anything about all these mass shootings
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby MagsJ » Fri May 14, 2021 9:49 am

Mr Reasonable wrote:
MagsJ wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:
MagsJ said: “Grow up man”.

Yes - "grow up man". Accept it. Stop interfering. "Nothing to see here - Move on". Stop trying to help. Stop drawing attention to it.

It's just progress.
Lol.. that’s not even close to what I meant. Why ever would you think I did?

The violence, the confrontations, the lawlessness.. it’s too much to stomach, and yet that’s all still allowed to go on.. school-yard dramas, but with guns and free-rein.
yeah the right wing in american takes billions from the gun lobbyists and they rabidly oppose and proposal to do anything about all these mass shootings

Perhaps that is what happens when a country has always put money first.. money over policy, money over lives, money over what matters to it’s people, first?

How do you see or imagine things being resolved, or at least an end coming to the current pockets of civil unrest/confrontations.

obsrvr524 wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:
MagsJ wrote:Grow up man.
Yes - "grow up man". Accept it. Stop interfering. "Nothing to see here - Move on". Stop trying to help. Stop drawing attention to it.

It's just progress.
"And for God's sake stop investing and thinking about US. We are the good guys. Go find out something to hate about THEM!"

Why are those situations even happening tho/allowed to be happening, without any consequences for those causing them, is what I’m trying to convey here.. albeit very badly.

Where is the policy being made to prevent and control such situations? it isn’t. America needs to grow up and start holding people accountable for their recent hate-fuelled actions, and to also stop playing games with people’s lives and livelihoods just to get a piece of the American pie, but at the expense of the expendable Peoples.

I’m sure we agree on that?
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri May 14, 2021 10:53 am

MagsJ wrote:Perhaps that is what happens when a country has always put money first.. money over policy, money over lives, money over what matters to it’s people, first?

I certainly agree with that.

obsrvr524 wrote:
MagsJ wrote:Grow up man.
Yes - "grow up man". Accept it. Stop interfering. "Nothing to see here - Move on". Stop trying to help. Stop drawing attention to it.

It's just progress.
MagsJ wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:"And for God's sake stop investing and thinking about US. We are the good guys. Go find out something to hate about THEM!"

Why are those situations even happening tho/allowed to be happening, without any consequences for those causing them, is what I’m trying to convey here.. albeit very badly.

Where is the policy being made to prevent and control such situations? it isn’t. America needs to grow up and start holding people accountable for their recent hate-fuelled actions, and to also stop playing games with people’s lives and livelihoods just to get a piece of the American pie, but at the expense of the expendable Peoples.

I’m sure we agree on that?

Yes and no. The difference being that I see a cause - besides merely money-first.

How do you conquer a nation if not by military force? - Regime Change. And in this case the regime was a constitution - an agreement between the people and the government. You subtly infiltrate and undermine the people's ability to agree - on anything. There have been many books on the subject (Karl Marx being only one of many strategists).

I held off judgement on James' "Obfuscation and Extortion" and "Spell of Changing" reduction for a while but after what I have watched happening in the US for the last few years, I think he was dead on.

You infiltrate the education system (through unions) to teach the children to hate their country, to use drugs, to be selfish, and to flout authority. You encourage immorality, divorcing, suing, easy-money vampiring, cleverness, spying, lying, and betraying. You promote the mentally ill, anti-social, corrupt, naive, and incompetent into authority positions throughout the system. You promote faux causes to turn groups against groups (identity politics). You promote irrationality in place of common sense - criminality in place of law. You encourage hating the others within the nation for causing all that you have secretly done to them yourself.

Basically you turn the people against their own leaders only to replace them with even worse leaders - even those mindlessly bent on destroying their own country.

All of that is the obfuscation - the chaos that creates indecision, ineptness, and weakness. And then finally you extort the corrupt leadership (O'Biden, 2/3rds of Congress, and most of their Supreme Court justices).

By that time, you own their country. You have captured their king and the only violence appears to have come from them merely fighting each other. Then - next - the ultimatum - extorting the population - "Obey us or perish!" - COVID.

All brought to you by the Globalists - authoritarian world rulers.
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 5:24 pm

well magsj, the trump admin let russian spy maria butina go and sent her back to russia where she now works for a propaganda outlet. she was the one who lured all those gop politicians into her circle in order to gain influence with them, and she was tied directly to the nra, which is the largest special interest group by dollars in america.

the shit started hitting the fan with them, and they tried to declare bankruptcy and in the last few weeks we've learned about the $50k suits and private jets and yachts and all that shit that the "leadership" there was blowing donor money on while telling all the dumb right wingers that they needed the money to protect their gun rights. sort of the same as when trump bilks his followers out of all that money to stop the steal or to build the wall or whatever. he just plays on their fears and gets all these poor people to send him money then they don't get a wall and he's still not the president.

anyway, the nra tried to get its case moved to texas i guess with the idea of finding a sympathetic judge in the south, a trump appointee, but that didn't work out as there was no legal basis for the requested change of venue.

now the whole case has been thrown out and the judge said it was filed in bad faith.

so we're gonna start seeing some movement from nyag leticia james, probably going to end up seeing some fraud charges etc.

the right wing will go nuts because their entire agenda is to not really do anything at all, just to make sure that the other side can't accomplish anything. so if the democrats are like, "hey lets maybe figure out some ways to stop children from being shot every day"....the republican response will be, "no we will not vote for anything that in any way even mentions guns because we get so much money from the nra and because we disagree with everything you do on principle".

its sad really. but im enjoying watching the nra squirm.

i grew up in a house full of guns. i cast my own bullets and made my own ammo as a kid. i've been to literally hundreds of gun shows and i can tell you that ever since i was a little kid, they are always full of all that nutjob propaganda about how the left wants to take your guns. after hearing this for more than 35 years, and realizing that nothing that was ever for sale at the gun show has even been taken away, you start to realize that the right wing gun shop owners just use that lie and that fear to gouge prices.

also the only 2 things that ever actually got banned were full autos (by reagan) and bump stocks, (by trump). go the gop voters who think the right will protect their guns and that the left will take them away literally have it backwards and are therefore stupid af.
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 5:25 pm

bottom line magsj, to resolve it there has to be a reckoning with all these people at the NRA and the GOP campaigns that have taken money from them that was funneled in from foreign govts. when wayne lapierre and marco rubio, (who takes the most money of all from the gun lobby) are in court, then we'll be making progress.
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Fri May 14, 2021 5:26 pm

obsrvr524:
All brought to you by the Globalists - authoritarian world rulers."

K: and who are they? name names.. tell us who these "Globalists" are?

you can't, hence it is just another bogyman conspiracy theory....

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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 5:28 pm

maybe it's the kind of guys who own property all over the world and hide their income all over the world and who owe the chinese banks 400 mil and who are in bed with people like erik prince.
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 5:30 pm

also i mean lets be real this is a thread that started with some shit from andy ngo. anyone who would even cite that dude has a serious judgement problem and it clearly susceptible to some pretty low grade hype/propaganda. i mean the dude's whole job is to go out and create theater and everywhere he goes he always sees the same thing. i would say he's been discredited repeatedly but i don't think that he was ever anything close to credible in the first place.

i think some people are just bored and like to live in this exciting fantasy world that's pretty much concocted by this handful of well paid liars.
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 5:31 pm

this whole trend of people who are somehow concluding that the only place to get the real information is from the youtube channels of a pack of complete fucking morons is seriously corrosive to the truth.
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Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 5:32 pm

now i'll just wait right here while all the enlightened ones take turns saying i BeT u wAtCh CnN!!
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 5:35 pm

from wiki.

this is the dude that we're talking about here.

and the first motherfucker who starts saying that google and wiki are leftist propaganda is a fucking idiot.



Andy Cuong Ngô (/noʊ/ n-oh; born c. 1986) is an American conservative journalist[1][2][3][4][5] and social media personality known for covering and video-recording demonstrators.[6] He is the editor-at-large of The Post Millennial, a Canadian conservative news website.[7] Ngô is a regular guest on Fox News[8] and has published columns in outlets such as the Wall Street Journal[9] and The Spectator.[10]

Ngô's coverage of anti-fascist groups and Muslims has been controversial, and the accuracy and credibility of his reporting have been disputed. He has been widely accused of sharing misleading and selectively edited videos,[11][3][12][13] described as a provocateur,[14][15][16][17] and accused of having links with militant right-wing groups in Portland.[18][19][20][21]
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breaking : conservative provocateur with ties to right wing militant groups says leftists baaaddd
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i mean here ya go....



Credibility
Ngo's credibility and objectivity as a journalist has been extensively criticized. Ngo has been accused of using selectively edited videos and sharing misleading and inaccurate information to paint antifa activists as violent, and to underplay the violence of the far-right[87] with Columbia Journalism Review accordingly describing Ngo as a "discredited provocateur".[88] Some of Ngo's contentions about antifa have been rated as "false" by fact-checker Politifact.[89] Several sources have declined to refer to Ngo as a "journalist".[12][90] Philosopher Jason Stanley contended in an interview with the Southern Poverty Law Center that Ngo promotes a false equivalence between left and right-wing political violence in the U.S.[85]

Ngo has also attracted criticism for allegedly associating with the same far-right groups that he purports to report on.[20][21][91] After Ngo was assaulted by left-wing protestors in Portland in 2019, the Portland-based newspaper Willamette Week quoted an unnamed Proud Boys member as saying that the attack on Ngo "happened because he ignored Proud Boys' offer of protection".[18] The paper further asserted "it is increasingly clear [Ngo] is coordinating his movements and his message with right-wing groups".[18]

Ngo's brand of journalism has been referred to as "busybody journalism",[33] and it has been contended that Ngo seeks to provoke left-wing violence. BuzzFeed News reported that "[Ngo]'s literal brand is that anti-fascists are violent and loathe him", adding that he "has been building to a dramatic confrontation with the Portland far left for months, his star rising along with the severity of the encounters...[Ngo] is willing to make himself the story and to stream himself doing it. He proceeds from a worldview and seeks to confirm it, without asking to what degree his coverage becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy".[23] Conversely, California State University extremism expert Brian Levin stated that Ngo was "a political pundit who certainly makes the most out of his conflicts, which sometimes turn violent on him...But to his credit, I’ve never seen him be the physical aggressor in the posts that he's made generally.”[92]
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri May 14, 2021 5:38 pm

gloominary serious question...

did you know any of this stuff about the guy you cited? if not, are you embarrassed to have cited him now?
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Postby obsrvr524 » Fri May 14, 2021 7:28 pm

It's funny - watching those two get triggered. :lol:
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Fri May 14, 2021 7:51 pm

the things about conservatives is, they always cite
sources that are dubious at best.... bitchute or faux news or
some loser like Tucker Carlsen or Tomi Lahren.......

I would hope that conservatives would cite people who
has a better track record then Tucker... but I guess I am
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Re: Armed standoff at Portland

Postby promethean75 » Fri May 14, 2021 7:56 pm

You've been lied to smears. Mr. Ngo is an honest american patriot who was attacked by a vicious milkshake thrown by the antifascist fascists. This is an undisputed fact.
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