Trump Claims Victory

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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Sculptor » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:19 am

d0rkyd00d wrote:
Sculptor wrote:Trump stole the election with 3 million fewer votes, four years ago.

He has destroyed America's reputation, and has proven incompetant in even the most simple tasks.
He is arrogant, narcicistic and thick are two Irish planks. He could not think his way out of a tissue bank.
If he had not lost this time it would have been necessary to shoot the fat pig.

He deserved to lose.


If ones reads through the court cases, one will easily realize it was Trump's legal team that was trying to find every loophole and technicality in law to try and circumvent the election process, and stumbled every....step....of.....the.....way.

But I get it, the writing from these rulings isn't exactly accessible to Joe Plumber.


Journalist from all over the world who were present in many of the cases report that no evidence was actually presented.
Guiliani made many wild accusations outside the courts, but when inside offered nothing and has been quoted as saying "this is not about fraud".
Outside the court he claimed, (abusing his right to free speech), that the court refused to hear his evidence.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:09 am

Sculptor = Chinese Shill
smears = just a dumass

Data doesn't lie.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/TCjEZb9gepyI/
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:12 am

Sculptor, how much does the Chinese Communist Party charge you for pushing their propaganda? Oh, wait... you do it for free?!?! Damn, what a bargain!
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:14 am

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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:15 am

smears response: but wut about all the cases that were thrown out (meaning not heard by democratic judges or attorneys)
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:39 am

I expect retractions from smears and sculptor as well:

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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:46 am

This one is like smears convincing people to ignore fraud right in front of their faces:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IPMefWt4iuFg/
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Sculptor » Sat Jan 30, 2021 4:12 pm

Journalist from all over the world who were present in many of the cases report that no evidence was actually presented.
Guiliani made many wild accusations outside the courts, but when inside offered nothing and has been quoted as saying "this is not about fraud".
Outside the court he claimed, (abusing his right to free speech), that the court refused to hear his evidence.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:56 am

"Journalists", you mean lying, cheating, shilling, gaslighting.

That's all you do and all you are capable of, spreading lies and filth.

The 2020 Election was defrauded, and more than enough fraud to overturn the Presidential Election.



By all means, President Trump is still the Legitimate President. We have the data. We have the proof. We have the video, audio, physical evidence.

Just because you're mentally deranged, Trump-Derangement-Syndrome, doesn't mean shit. You are a liar, unable to see or hear with your senses.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:00 am

For good measure:

https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... &p=2803365
obsrvr524 wrote:After a high speed replay of the (IQ^2) debate (much to the annoyance of my wife & co.) my analysis is the following –

The unreduced strategies mentioned concerning The Brave New World were -

  • Identity political structure
  • Psychological conditioning thru obfuscation
  • Distractive consumerism
  • Sexual mandates
  • Elimination of the family unite
  • Genetic engineering
  • Love only for the state
  • Morality in a bottle
  • Subtle extermination of the uncontrolled – "pests"
  • Mood altering drugs

And concerning Nineteen Eight-Four

  • Subtle speech control
  • Hypocrisy
  • Artificial antagonists
  • Power lust
  • Thought crime
  • Rewriting of history
  • No need to think
  • Authoritarian discourse
  • Authoritarian logic
  • Power of hatred – divisiveness
  • Subjective reality
  • Psychological conditioning thru suffering
  • Power thru suffering
  • Hatred, fear, triumph, self abasement - only


I think for decades the Brave New World scenario was in play – techniques to subtly and gently enslave the population without them realizing they were enslaved. Huxley didn't get into the more fascist methods.

But then what no one expected – Mr Trump became US President.

    Mr Trump was/is sort of a crude Jesus figure – standing up for the masses, tearing the curtain on the establishment, turning over the money changing tables… The Jewish coalition had to be thinking – "OH HELL – here we go AGAIN!"

    So they sent the Devil after him (the Muller team) who found nothing to convict. And now they are headed for the Pontious Pilat trial. Mr Trump intends to remain silent. And after which they are already planning the crucifixion.

    Throughout Rome the Christians were then persecuted – the current effort to ban all conservatives from society – even jail them merely for being associated with Mr Trump or conservative ideas.

And I think that is when the Huxley narrative switched to the Orwell narrative – fascist enforcement of "unity" to the state.

Orwell saw society not merely being tricked into compliance (mostly through language manipulation and mind control techniques) but also by authoritarian intimidation and forced submission (fascism) – not caring that the population now know they are enslaved.

A question is why did Orwell think that force would be necessary?

Actually James answered why it would be necessary but I suspect Orwell was probably just going by Nazi experience.

The Brave New World tactics would require absolute but hidden control over media and the economy (James' "Media, Money, and Medicine"). And realistically that is always partially exposed – never truly absolutely hidden. That implies a potential for "tearing the curtain" – which is exactly what happened.

So we can see from Rome-Judaea history that eventually tyrannical fascism is a historical reality and with history repeating itself and at a weak state – what else could really be expected? – Authoritarian control over speech, enhanced surveillance, persecution of dissidents, banning of any means for the population to resist, and open abandonment of civil rights – no more US Constitution silliness.

The Brave New World narrative was just a little too weak to last. The Orwellian narrative was an inevitable backstop.

Huxley was a dreamer of a utopia through obfuscation – no need for the ugly extortion. Orwell was more realistic – some subterfuge but reinforced by fascism until all resistance was simply forgotten – relegated to the "black hole of forgetfulness" – the Abyss.

And of course following history – Welcome to the fall of Rome and The New Dark Age.

It has all been done before.

    Huxley dreamt of French socialism.
    Orwell remembered Nazi socialism
    - the inevitable consequent

I wonder if either thought about the Christians and the Fall of Rome. :-k
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Sculptor » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:36 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:"Journalists", you mean lying, cheating, shilling, gaslighting.

That's EXACTLY the type of journo you are relying on for your lies about the election.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:44 pm

Data Analysts aren't journalists.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby obsrvr524 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:55 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Data Analysts aren't journalists.

Still trying to shine light for the blind to see? - A foolhardy philosophy, I think. :-?
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Meno_ » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:03 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Data Analysts aren't journalists.




It is inconceivable that a certain percentage of data should be suspect to miscount and fraud. That is a given any analysis presumes.

Only this past election highlighted it for political advantage.

So it's barely a convincing repartee either way.

Call high lighting gaslighting, without partisan bias.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Sculptor » Sun Jan 31, 2021 8:48 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Data Analysts aren't journalists.



Even Trump's director of security has dumped him.
Now even his lawyers have dumped him

When you confront your cognitive dissonance and realise that Trump is just a fuckwit with a big bank account, you too might see reality.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Feb 01, 2021 6:56 am

Hey just popping in to remind urwrong that Joe Biden is his president because Trump lost.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Sculptor » Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:18 am

Biden has done more in a week than Trump did in a year.
ANd most of it useful.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:25 am

Not according to Legal votes
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:21 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:smears response: but wut about all the cases that were thrown out (meaning not heard by democratic judges or attorneys)



Trump appointed a third of the Supreme Court and they wouldn't hear it either. Not to mention all the Trump appointed judges who also dismissed cases. Facts don't care about your feelings.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:06 am

It was Roberts who decided not to hear the evidence, not a Trump appointee.

The cases didn't make it to court. The cases weren't heard. The evidence wasn't heard, didn't have a chance.

But your recent support of death threats, threats of violence, prove all there is necessary to know about you shit_smears.


You've lost the plot. Trump won the legal vote. It's finished. Trump is still President, perhaps the last Legitimate US President. Biden is an imposter.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Feb 02, 2021 9:36 am

Bruh trump is definitely not president.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:01 am

yea huh
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:43 pm

You gotta get deprogrammed bruh u r straight up looney.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Meno_ » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:51 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:You gotta get deprogrammed bruh u r straight up looney.



Agreed, partially, Reasonable
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