Trump Claims Victory

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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby d0rkyd00d » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:44 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
d0rkyd00d wrote:Pence said in a statement issued minutes before he was to begin presiding over a joint session of Congress to count those votes that it was “my considered judgement that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not.”

https://apnews.com/article/mike-pence-e ... 1939b82f8b

I was waiting for YOU to say that. It was predictable because that is what MSM is saying so ofcourse what you believe.

The issue is that what Mr Pence said was NOT what was being asked. No one was saying that Mr Pence should just pick what he wanted. What they were saying was
  • 1) Allow for an investigation - Why not?
  • 2) Mr Pence should ASK the State legislators which slates were legally valid.

In neither case was Mr Pence being asked to "make a unilateral decision".

When you hide what seems to be illegal actions - not allowing an investigation - YOU cause rebellion. And that seems to have been the intent this whole time. They tried to do this with the Russia hoax but Mr Trump let the investigation happen - so there was no rebellion.

The Socialist played it differently. They DID disallow investigations. They DID openly break the laws of the States and refused to do anything about it.


You HAVE to give me time to put my tinfoil hat on before you hit me with this kinda stuff!!!
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:51 pm

And the two people shot were probably shot by the police - not that I expect it to be reported that way.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Meno_ » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:17 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:And the two people shot were probably shot by the police - not that I expect it to be reported that way.

It was, though, the protestors broke wondows, got into the capital building, and threatened a capitol guard. One of the protesters unmoved, forced himself in and a person , another prote
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:47 pm

Meno_ wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:And the two people shot were probably shot by the police - not that I expect it to be reported that way.

It was, though, the protestors broke wondows, got into the capital building, and threatened a capitol guard. One of the protesters unmoved, forced himself in and a person , another prote

And I don't blame the police (not yet anyway). I blame the reporting giving the impression that Trump supporters brought in guns and started shooting people.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby d0rkyd00d » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:50 pm

Meno_ wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:And the two people shot were probably shot by the police - not that I expect it to be reported that way.

It was, though, the protestors broke wondows, got into the capital building, and threatened a capitol guard. One of the protesters unmoved, forced himself in and a person , another prote


Shhh, you're going to cast doubt on obsrvr's fragile narrative.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby d0rkyd00d » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:53 pm

Here's the full letter from Mike Pence, where he clearly states his views that align with other Supreme Court rulings on the matter, which state VP role is ceremonial.

https://twitter.com/Mike_Pence/status/1 ... 62/photo/2
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby d0rkyd00d » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:54 pm

Of course we all know this just means Mike Pence is part of the Deep State.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby obsrvr524 » Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:55 pm

d0rkyd00d wrote:Shhh, you're going to cast doubt on obsrvr's fragile narrative.

Ok bludger, you have drawn the line. I gave you every chance.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby d0rkyd00d » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:18 am

obsrvr524 wrote:
d0rkyd00d wrote:Shhh, you're going to cast doubt on obsrvr's fragile narrative.

Ok bludger, you have drawn the line. I gave you every chance.


oh no, not the line!
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby d0rkyd00d » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:31 am

What is frustrating for me is that all of this misplaced energy on contesting the election fraud could be directed towards real, substantial change, if the 150MM Americans who voted could form a united front.

Instead, some megalomaniac comes along with populist rhetoric and convinces a bunch of rubes of all kinds of nonsensical claims, and takes advantage of real angst and frustration.

From conversations I've had, I have a lot more empathy with Trump supporters than others who share the same view of this situation. I was just watching an Epoch Times interview with a woman there. The sincerity with which she spoke of how frustrating it was to feel unheard, and to spend so much time, money and energy to get their families to travel to D.C. for what they believe is fighting for a just cause....it's heartbreaking. I am well aware that many of these people are genuinely good.

It gives me no pleasure to see people suffering and taken advantage of by a charlatan. Their suffering is real, the frustration and neglect they feel is real, and to see them being used as pawns in these political games is quite disgusting. What repels so many from sharing this sympathy, I think, is the virus that has been uploaded into these minds can be quite off-putting. Nobody wants to be called a communist because they don't like Trump (not that it even makes sense). Nobody wants to be called a socialist for not liking Trump. The insinuation that anybody who doesn't believe Trump with 100% conviction is not patriotic is not an extended olive branch.

So on the one hand, there is this large group of people who have goals and interest that are aligned with mine in terms of populism, but then that group is saying anybody who doesn't follow their messiah is a communist. I don't know how to resolve, or if it is possible.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:40 am

d0rkyd00d wrote:What is frustrating for me is that all of this misplaced energy on contesting the election fraud could be directed towards real, substantial change, if the 150MM Americans who voted could form a united front.

Instead, some megalomaniac comes along with populist rhetoric and convinces a bunch of rubes of all kinds of nonsensical claims, and takes advantage of real angst and frustration.

From conversations I've had, I have a lot more empathy with Trump supporters than others who share the same view of this situation. I was just watching an Epoch Times interview with a woman there. The sincerity with which she spoke of how frustrating it was to feel unheard, and to spend so much time, money and energy to get their families to travel to D.C. for what they believe is fighting for a just cause....it's heartbreaking. I am well aware that many of these people are genuinely good.

It gives me no pleasure to see people suffering and taken advantage of by a charlatan. Their suffering is real, the frustration and neglect they feel is real, and to see them being used as pawns in these political games is quite disgusting. What repels so many from sharing this sympathy, I think, is the virus that has been uploaded into these minds can be quite off-putting. Nobody wants to be called a communist because they don't like Trump (not that it even makes sense). Nobody wants to be called a socialist for not liking Trump. The insinuation that anybody who doesn't believe Trump with 100% conviction is not patriotic is not an extended olive branch.

So on the one hand, there is this large group of people who have goals and interest that are aligned with mine in terms of populism, but then that group is saying anybody who doesn't follow their messiah is a communist. I don't know how to resolve, or if it is possible.


The nazis won’t win. And by saying that, I don’t mean the Jews will win.

Almost 100% of this planet is psychopathic. That’s reality to an awakened being.

Trump is not a psychopath by my definition, which isn’t in books yet, he’s a psychopath by standard definitions...

Since most people don’t understand propaganda... they don’t understand that trillions of dollars have been invested in controlled studies to control the masses.

Trump is a joke, the ‘outsider’. Who’s ‘taking on the system’. He’s part of the narrative and he knows it.

I understand the trumps of the world, I used to be one of them.

Now I’m something beyond.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby d0rkyd00d » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:50 am

Goddamnit why does everybody on this forum think they are some savant when it comes to understanding life and human nature????











INCLUDING ME?!?
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:50 am

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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Gloominary » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:55 am

So where does the movement go from here? :-k
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby promethean75 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:59 am

trumpf is a goddamn fomenting fomenter who's fomented the whole thing.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby obsrvr524 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 2:08 am

The USA is on its death bed.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:09 am

Unfortunately Communism has won a major victory today.

Freedom will fall across the world. It is up to the remaining US patriots to reconsolidate and reassert a New Republic.



This is the meaning of Re-Public anyway.

Tyranny and Fascism has come to USA under the 'Democrat' Communist party and their Chinese Shills.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:51 am

urwrong u gonna have to get injected with a socialist microchip now. when u have illegal thoughts, it will automatically deduct the fine from ur bank acct and the money all goes to planned parenthood. welcome to the future.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:54 am

jokes on you, i only use cash
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:59 am

big govt gonna take away cash man money isnt even gonna be real anymore its the deep state plan u r so fucked
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:16 am

i know how to deal with commies, i appreciate ur concern tho
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:17 am

how does it feel to know that ur guy lost and that the ideals that u hold dear are no longer relevant to the govt that u live under?
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:18 am

wut makes u think trump lost? the trump win continues

hilary clinton said it best, "do not concede under any circumstance", u started it
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:51 am

u should turn on cspan so you can watch them certify bidens win. live stream ur reaction and ill cashapp u 100 bucks.
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Re: Trump Claims Victory

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Thu Jan 07, 2021 8:42 am

fake news
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