We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby MagsJ » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:22 am

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It’s not so much the mRNA component that most are worried about,
but the additives, that now seem to be flooring and dis-abling some.

I bet the 1% ain’t getting that version of the vax.. if at all.
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I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Huh! - MagsJ
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby d0rkyd00d » Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:43 pm

MagsJ wrote:_
It’s not so much the mRNA component that most are worried about,
but the additives, that now seem to be flooring and dis-abling some.

I bet the 1% ain’t getting that version of the vax.. if at all.


Waiting to see the evidence for the second claim.

As for the first, all vaccines pose potential consequence for severe or fatal side effects, no?
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Gloominary » Thu Dec 24, 2020 4:29 pm

The elite must be getting a real kick out of all this.

WATCH: Authorities employ WRESTLERS to enforce mask wearing in public

https://www.rt.com/news/510545-mexicans-wrestlers-enforce-mask-wearing/
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:26 pm

d0rkyd00d wrote:
MagsJ wrote:_
It’s not so much the mRNA component that most are worried about,
but the additives, that now seem to be flooring and dis-abling some.

I bet the 1% ain’t getting that version of the vax.. if at all.


Waiting to see the evidence for the second claim.

As for the first, all vaccines pose potential consequence for severe or fatal side effects, no?
There is precedent. I think it was the swine flu. The general public was being offered a vaccine with a wide range of adjuvants - which critics of vaccines have argued are dangerous. The elite in Germany was offered a vaccine without these additives. There was an uproar and this division was undone. But wait a minute, why would the elite there want the adjuvant free vaccine and why would the vaccine-maker consider this a rational option, since 1I it should be less effective and 2) they say the adjuvants are safe.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby promethean75 » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:04 pm

This is all so surreal. We might actually be the generation that sees the NWO.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Gloominary » Fri Dec 25, 2020 12:54 am

In previous millennia, we saw various religions, and philosophies used as a pretext to enslave the people.

Mark my words, this millennium increasingly we will see science used as a pretext for enslavement.

The majority of the population has blind faith in science, even where it's been heavily corporatized and politicized.

Where neoconservatism and cultural Marxism are failing and have failed, science, particularly medical but also environmental, will pick up the slack.

We ain't seen nothing yet, this's just the tip of the iceberg, right Bill?

Fast-forward to 2:46



Who are these, bioterrorists, Bill?

You mean your friends at the World Health Organization?
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Gloominary » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:26 am

We haven't had a major pandemic in over a century, yet suddenly out of the blue, there's going to be a pandemic 1, 2, 3 and bioterrorism, yet somehow Bill, with no medical background, predicted it all several years back and invested billions of dollars in vaxxines.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Gloominary » Fri Dec 25, 2020 1:36 am

He's gleefully talking about this shit like it's inevitable, like it's already happened.

Oh yea there's going to be a pandemic 2, 3 and bioterrorism, but don't worry I've got you covered.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:52 am

The fact that the CCP released this onto the world, in accordance with Trump and the political climate, demonstrates to me the crystal-clear intention.

The Globalists and Communists are working together, and focused in unison on destroying USA, the Constitution, and Western Civilization. Their first assault and attack is an overwhelming success.

Over the next decade we will see if the Conservative-Right can muster a strong defense and counter-attack. If not, then Free societies will fall across the world, one by one by one.


Communism would triumph in that scenario, as the global masses are Enslaved and all human rights erased.

"Human Rights" which the State can reneg at anytime, for any purpose, under the auspice of "public safety" and manufactured "emergency".

Of which there will be countless "emergencies".
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Meno_ » Fri Dec 25, 2020 6:40 am

Now, if that opinion is factored in by the conservaties, then,the mitigated fact is that giving up is not an option.

The consequences are predictable, and then, the most feared responses could be predictable, as well.

But how about this: given the state of the world, that the conditions of this postmodern civilization are such, that as others involved in the idea of the global community, is concerned- that given , a new evolving order being a foregone conclusion- then this pandemic may be the only way to avoid a nuclear ending winter to civilization.

Maybe if the pandemic ,is perceived in this manner, then a pandemic may be used as a propholactic to avoid the worse of two very bad situations.

I think this may be a more probable scenario .
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby MagsJ » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:27 am

d0rkyd00d wrote:
MagsJ wrote:_
It’s not so much the mRNA component that most are worried about,
but the additives, that now seem to be flooring and dis-abling some.

I bet the 1% ain’t getting that version of the vax.. if at all.

Waiting to see the evidence for the second claim.

Well it’s happened before, and in public too.

As for the first, all vaccines pose potential consequence for severe or fatal side effects, no?

They could be made safer than they currently are, no?
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:42 am

Gloominary wrote:Where ... cultural Marxism [is] failing and [has] failed, science, particularly medical but also environmental, will pick up the slack.


They are one and the same.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078836

That movie is from 1979.

Watch it.

It's on piratebay.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:45 am

Notice, and this is from 1979, how the guy asking questions about scientific rigour and things like that is instantly waved away as a right wing cook.

This has been cooking for a while.

Or does anybody really think that idiot Al Gore came up with all of this?
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:58 am

Not to take anything away from Donald Sutherland's pristine acting.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby obsrvr524 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 9:56 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:The fact that the CCP released this onto the world, in accordance with Trump and the political climate, demonstrates to me the crystal-clear intention.

The Globalists and Communists are working together, and focused in unison on destroying USA, the Constitution, and Western Civilization. Their first assault and attack is an overwhelming success.

Over the next decade we will see if the Conservative-Right can muster a strong defense and counter-attack. If not, then Free societies will fall across the world, one by one by one.


Communism would triumph in that scenario, as the global masses are Enslaved and all human rights erased.

"Human Rights" which the State can reneg at anytime, for any purpose, under the auspice of "public safety" and manufactured "emergency".

Of which there will be countless "emergencies".

That sums it up.
Meno_ wrote:Now, if that opinion is factored in by the conservaties, then,the mitigated fact is that giving up is not an option.

The consequences are predictable, and then, the most feared responses could be predictable, as well.

But how about this: given the state of the world, that the conditions of this postmodern civilization are such, that as others involved in the idea of the global community, is concerned- that given , a new evolving order being a foregone conclusion- then this pandemic may be the only way to avoid a nuclear ending winter to civilization.

Maybe if the pandemic ,is perceived in this manner, then a pandemic may be used as a propholactic to avoid the worse of two very bad situations.

I think this may be a more probable scenario .

I've been wondering about that one too.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:37 am

An interesting take on how the crisis is being used by politicians and what the culture of politics is.
Russell Brand also reminds me that the billionaires and many of the larger corporations INCREASED their wealth and power during the first wave of Covid. They are likely continuing this. There is a consolidation of power happening. Whether there is a conspiracy in any facet of the crisis or not, there is a consolidation of power happening and it is also politics as usual....

https://youtu.be/jnOIC9qSz4U
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:11 am

Meno_ wrote:Now, if that opinion is factored in by the conservaties, then,the mitigated fact is that giving up is not an option.

The consequences are predictable, and then, the most feared responses could be predictable, as well.

But how about this: given the state of the world, that the conditions of this postmodern civilization are such, that as others involved in the idea of the global community, is concerned- that given , a new evolving order being a foregone conclusion- then this pandemic may be the only way to avoid a nuclear ending winter to civilization.

Maybe if the pandemic ,is perceived in this manner, then a pandemic may be used as a propholactic to avoid the worse of two very bad situations.

I think this may be a more probable scenario .


This is a big reason this fake pandemic worked and even a big reason why it came about. Insanely, it gives people (sheep anyway) a sense of security.

You don't need a big smoky room conspiracy. If enough people feel their safe space violated, the steps suggest themselves. Like herds.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby obsrvr524 » Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:11 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078836

That movie is from 1979.

Watch it.

It's on piratebay.

It's on Youtube. My wife thought it ok. I found it predictable.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 2:51 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:You don't need a big smoky room conspiracy. If enough people feel their safe space violated, the steps suggest themselves. Like herds.

Exactly. When anti-'what they call conspiracy theorists' 'critique' so called conspiracy theorists, they inevitably critique straw men. They assume it must be thousands and thousands of people in the know. The hospital staff need not know, most people at the vaccine maker need not know, most people in government need not know...and so on. You just need to trigger the right propaganda, release the right memos, set things in motion - convince a few key people - and further make sure that some key people make a lot of money off it. Those people want to believe they are doing good. They don't want to look closely. There are so many psychological attitudes and self-interests and unquestioning minds out there, you don't have to have some massive group. At all. And if you have a good way to marginalize opposition, then you can claim consensus. And that science is behind you.

It happens here at ILP. People flip out about criticisms of current covid policy and if you question them, tease it out a little, they always have masses of assumptions about what must be going on if there was a systematic problem.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:14 pm

It's all very Freudian.

They want some things that they cannot admit to themselves that they want without jeopardizing their self-image or what Freud called ego (as opposed to neo-budist claptrap ego). So all you need is people willing and with the expertise to give them a story, a narrative, like a dream, that allows them to pursue this thing they want while pretending to only pursue things that they are allowed to want.

The degree to which they accept this process to themselves is actually variable. But it is never 100% "they don't understand what's happening." There is a transaction. That is why someone like Mr R can so seamlessly just change subject in response to not having a coherent answer.

It's not that they don't realize that this hoax is imperiling their freedom. It's that they needed an excuse to give up their freedom.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:19 pm

They were scared and overwhelmed by the world. China cold brought order.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:23 pm

Lol but that's one thing that bothers me about Freud. Maybe I don't want to understand vermin so well. Just understanding how they work debases my person and makes me feel dirty.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Dec 27, 2020 8:25 pm

Besides, there are good guys dreaming as well.
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Re: We Do Not have a Medical Pandemic

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