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first night of DNC convention

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:45 pm

I was able to watch the entire first night of the DNC convention
and here are my thoughts....

first and foremost, they started too late....
Michelle Obama was speaking at 11:00 east coast
time and out here it was 8:00.... the convention
should have started an hour earlier and ended an hour earlier....

Now, the program itself was actually pretty good....
given that this was an historic first, a online political convention....
I like it a lot... I have watched a lot of political conventions going back to
the 70's and this one was clean and well produced... it didn't have the
usual garbage that conventions have...the noisy crowd or the playing to
the audience crap or the dumb shoots of people jumping around and looking
stupid.....

as for the content itself, clearly the highlight was Michelle Obama
and she gave a great speech... but I thought the most impressive aspects
were the Republican speakers who have turned against IQ45 and the GOP....

John Kasich ran for the GOP nomination in 2016 and yesterday gave his
endorsement to Biden... there were several ex-lifelong republican speakers
who endorsed Biden..... I doubt that the GOP will find Democrats who will do
the same thing...especially ex-members of congress like Susan Molinari
and former Gov. Christine Todd Whitman and a former candidate for
California Governor who ran as a republican, Meg Whitman....

three high profile ex -republicans who have endorsed and will vote for
Biden...

in perhaps the best speech of the members of the community group
was Kristin Urguiza who gave perhaps the best line of the first night,
when talking about her father who died of Covid-19 and who was a life long
republican, she said,

"his only preexisting condition was trusting Donald Trump
and for that, he paid with his life"

The second best line was from Bernie Sanders of all people,
he said,

"Nero fiddled while Rome burned. Trump golfed."

all in all, a very good first night....

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Re: first night of DNC convention

Postby iambiguous » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:12 pm

Any conservative minds changed so far?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176529
Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
And here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=194382
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Re: first night of DNC convention

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:23 pm

iambiguous wrote:Any conservative minds changed so far?



K: I am not sure we should rate this convention on how many conservative
minds we change in one night....... we should think of this as a 3 month project...
rarely do people change their minds overnight, but given some time,
they might come to some resolution that allows them to change their
perspective on just how bad or even evil IQ45 really is....

let us see how the next 3 nights go......BTW,
Bill Clinton speaks tonight, he will, as always, give a great speech....

I find it interesting that the best public speakers in the US today are all
liberal, democratic speakers... you don't find many good speakers
in the conservative ranks.. I wonder why?

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Re: first night of DNC convention

Postby iambiguous » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:36 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
iambiguous wrote:Any conservative minds changed so far?



K: I am not sure we should rate this convention on how many conservative
minds we change in one night....... we should think of this as a 3 month project...
rarely do people change their minds overnight, but given some time,
they might come to some resolution that allows them to change their
perspective on just how bad or even evil IQ45 really is....

let us see how the next 3 nights go......BTW,
Bill Clinton speaks tonight, he will, as always, give a great speech....

I find it interesting that the best public speakers in the US today are all
liberal, democratic speakers... you don't find many good speakers
in the conservative ranks.. I wonder why?

Kropotkin


True, but I was alluding more to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=195931

But, okay, we can come back in 3 months and tabulate the changed minds.

Well, at least among those who follow politics here.

Though, sure, there may be articles/newscasts in the media that note it if the number of changed minds is large enough. Indeed, the analysis of the election returns themselves will be poured over from every imaginable demographic segment.

See you then.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176529
Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
And here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=194382
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Re: first night of DNC convention

Postby promethean75 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:41 pm

K: the conservative party can never speak truthfully, because if they did, they would have to admit that capitalism does not work in the best interests of everyone.

So how do you hold the attention and affection of the citizens when you stand for something that cannot benefit them all? You have to lie. There is no other way.
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Re: first night of DNC convention

Postby promethean75 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:43 pm

I mean that's why they're all such bad speakers. In addition to being borderline mentally retarded, they have to lie as well. The result you get is disastrous, e.g., when trumpf opens his pie hole.
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Re: first night of DNC convention

Postby promethean75 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:44 pm

It is what it is, pete.
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