Marxist Conquest of the US

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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:05 am

Gloominary wrote:Again, police brutality is just the tip of the iceberg for BLM.


Thin end of the wedge FALLACY.

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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:07 am

Gloominary wrote:Black Los Angeles Demands in Light of COVID-19 and Rates of Black Death

https://www.blmla.org/newsfeed/2020/4/16/black-los-angeles-demands-in-light-of-covid-19-and-rates-of-black-death

Black people are dying at two-three times our population share from COVID-19. In Los Angeles County, the rate of Black death is twice our population share, with Black people constituting 9% of the County population, but 17% of the COVID-19 deaths. With nearly 900,000 Black residents in the County and 403,000 Black residents in the City (the eighth highest number of any city in the United States), what happens in Los Angeles has serious national implications. While several initiatives have been launched nationally, state-wide and locally, none speak to the particular needs of the Black community. The disproportionate and deadly impact of COVID-19 on the Black community magnifies what we have known, that “underlying conditions” result from an enduring system of racial apartheid and oppression. Interlocking economic, political, and social injustices collide with long-standing patterns of medical racism to make COVID-19 a Black issue that demands a response specific to the needs of the Black community.

The demands were developed by a coalition of more than 50 Black Los Angeles-based community leaders. Included are both immediate demands meant for emergency implementation during the Coronavirus crisis, and long-term demands, necessary to eradicate the underlying conditions that are at the root of the disproportionate impact of the public health crisis and economic fallout.

The drafted demands respond to the urgency of the moment in light of the COVID-19 crisis and related fallout. To address the demands, a significant share of stimulus and public funding must be earmarked as grants for the Black community and ongoing program funding should be redirected from police and law enforcement budgets to provide resources that bring real public safety. While the list is substantial, it was written under severe time-constraints and is not meant to be exhaustive or inclusive of the total set of Black community needs.

Immediate Demands:

Testing, Public Health, and Patient Rights

1. Complete collection and release of Los Angeles County and California data on COVID-19 cases and deaths, with particular focus on areas with large Black populations.

2. Universal access to non-invasive testing in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

3. Any COVID-19-related testing or future vaccinations must be voluntary, not mandatory or conditional for employment, education, access to public resources, or any other economic, political, or social functioning.

4. Prohibit sharing non-COVID-19-related medical information and required destruction of COVID-19-related medical records held by entities other than direct healthcare providers, including government and private parties, to preserve patient privacy rights.

5. Collection of self-identified racial, gender, income, age, occupation, employment-status, geographic residency, and housing-status data at first point of medical contact.

6. No forced removal of people from their homes under the guise of quarantine, or for any other reason.

7. Allowance for a support partner and medical advocate of patient’s choosing during any procedure or treatment, and, if needed at time of death.

8. On-demand, free medical care for Black residents of Los Angeles County during the COVID-19 crisis.

Education and Families

9. Adoption of all Students Deserve education demands by Los Angeles Unified School District and all districts County-wide.

10. Continuance of visitation and reunification programs (in distance-learning format as necessary) for parents with children under the authority of the Department of Children and Family Services, and freezing of reunification timelines.

Support for Black Workers and Small Business Owners

11. Public contracting with Black-owned restaurants and stores for healthy food and supply delivery during the pandemic and beyond.

12. Resources, not “enforcement,” for Black-owned businesses that have not been able to shut down during the crisis.

13. Guaranteed, timely assistance filing for economic resources, including unemployment and small business loans and grants.

14. Support for Black essential workers, especially those who are underpaid (including gig economy workers), by providing hazard pay, protective equipment, hotel rooms to mitigate the possibility of passing the virus to family members, and an ongoing livable wage and paid sick leave.

15. Income supplement of $2000 per month per adult and $1000 per month per child for all Black residents for the duration of the pandemic and economic fallout.

Public Safety

16. Employ properly-equipped, non-violent, community care workers as neighborhood resources, instead of expanding patrols by funding police and law enforcement.

17. Funding for neighborhood-based community care plans in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

18. Moratorium on all non-violent arrests.

19. Dismissal of all non-violent criminal warrants and citations.

Housing

20. On-demand, safe housing and supportive resources for unsheltered people and those fleeing unsafe conditions in unused hotel and motel rooms and vacant housing units.

21. Cancellation of rents and mortgages, and replacement of rental income to non-corporate Black property owners until the pandemic and economic fallout subsides.

22. Stop all sweeps of houseless settlements and provide bathrooms, showers, hand washing stations, soap, water, laundry vouchers, dumpsters, vermin abatement, and cleaning supplies.

Criminal Justice Reform

23. Immediate release of all people who are pretrial, bail-eligible, elderly, youth, pregnant, infirmed, immuno-comprimised and those held on parole/probation violations or infractions/non-serious misdemeanors from jails or detention.

24. Immediate release of all people who are parole-eligible, parole-suitable, elderly, youth, pregnant, infirmed, immuno-comprimised and those held on parole violations or non-violent felonies from prisons.

25. Provision of free housing, healthcare, food resources, and community reintegration support (including help acquiring documents like legal identification) for all people returning from prison, jail, or detention.

26. Continuance of rehabilitative programs offered by community-based organizations to incarcerated people who will not be released through distance-learning to allow them to continue to earn time off their sentences.

27. Mandatory usage of personal protective equipment (PPE) by all correctional staff in jails and prisons and provision of PPE to all incarcerated people.

Transportation

28. Free public transportation for all for the duration of the pandemic and economic fallout.

29. Cancellation of fare evasion citations on public transportation.

Other Resources

30. Funding to provide free, culturally-competent funeral and burial/cremation services for COVID-19 deaths.

31. Resources for culturally-competent community education on safer-at-home practices led by Black organizers and educators, with a corresponding prohibition of arrests, fines, and citations in response to safer-at-home violations.

32. Provision of free face-coverings and gloves at all COVID-19 testing sites, food distribution centers, open public facilities, grocery stores, restaurants, and essential businesses.

Long Term Demands:

Reparations

33. Reparations for all Black victims of COVID-19 (or their families in cases of death), who were unable to get support due to the lack of testing, access to healthcare, and/or overall medical racism.

Healthcare

34. Universal, quality, accessible healthcare.

35. Funding for Black-led, culturally-competent, free exercise and wellness classes in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

36. Funding for free culturally-competent counseling and mental health resources for Black residents of Los Angeles County.

37. Medical education that centers cultural-competency, and interrogates implicit bias and anti-Black racism and ongoing retraining of medical professionals in these areas.

Environment

38. Funding for organizations that address and work to remedy overarching environmental racism in Black communities.

Food Security

39. Weekly farmers markets in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

40. Vouchers for fresh produce for Black residents of Los Angeles County that are universally accepted at all places that sell food.

41. Funding for culturally-competent healthy eating and food preparation classes run by Black-led organizations.

42. Creation and maintenance of urban farmland and urban farming education in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

43. Funding for Black organizations to start and support maintenance of home-based gardens in Black communities throughout the County, especially South Central Los Angeles, Watts, Skid Row, Compton, and Inglewood.

Education

44. Recruitment of and scholarships for Black students to pursue careers in healthcare, including naturopathy and holistic medicinal practices.

45. Funding for Black scholarships, student recruitment, retention, and graduation initiatives at Charles Drew University.

46. Guaranteed admission, scholarship, and support programming for Black students to all public colleges and universities.

Housing

47. Declare housing as a human right and provide universal permanent housing for all.

Criminal Justice Reform

48. Automatic diversion services for all arrests of those under age 25, covering all offenses

49. Funding for and prioritization of alternatives to incarceration.

Public Safety

50. Prioritization of culturally-competent community solutions and resources to address public safety, including livable wage jobs, mental health services, after school programs, and community care workers, instead of police and law enforcement.

Transportation

51. Free public transportation for all, beginning with K-12 youth and seniors.

52. Double MTA schedule and make service available 24-hours-per-day and 7-days-per-week.

Other Resources

53. Free, quality, universal childcare.

54. Provide ample high quality, safe, accessible recreational spaces and cultural services including: parks, facilities, programs, and special events.

55. Financial incentives to create and maintain worker-controlled cooperatives.


All sounds good to me. Point 55 is almost Marxist, but only an incentive. You might have to do better than that.

Would you like me to point out all the POINTS that are ANTI_Marxist??
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Gloominary » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:20 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:gloom all that stuff on the list seems awesome

Some of it does sound cool, free this and that, but if the trade-off is a two-tiered society, one tier for 'BIPOC', women, the vaxxed and another for whites, men and the unvaxxed, tearing up the constitution, massive government overreach, living in pods and eating bugs, open borders, abolishing prisons, the police and replacing them with what, gangs, the red army?
Then I'll pass.
These people don't just want western civilization + some more wealth redistribution and some free shit, they want a reset, a do-over, and they're willing to commit violence en masse.
I agree there oughta be more wealth redistribution from the top 1 to the bottom 99% but we gotta count cost.
Marxism sounded cool too in a lot of ways and that's what this is, Marxism 2.0.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Gloominary » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:43 pm

Sculptor wrote:
promethean75 wrote:Damn nvm sculptor beat me to it. It's a fallacy of some kind. Maybe the composition fallacy or something like 'at.


No problem.

Yes Gloominary is guilty of the fallacy of composition.
Its a sort of false induction too.
Falsely understanding the whole from one of its parts.

By the same token IBM would be communist too, since it supports BLM.

https://builtin.com/diversity-inclusion ... al-justice

IBM's support is shallow, like most people, they probably don't know what BLM is really about, they're just virtue signaling, they have nothing to gain and everything to lose under Marxism.
I have no reason to doubt the sincerity of BLM's support for Marxism.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Gloominary » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:07 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Sculptor wrote:
promethean75 wrote:Damn nvm sculptor beat me to it. It's a fallacy of some kind. Maybe the composition fallacy or something like 'at.


No problem.

Yes Gloominary is guilty of the fallacy of composition.
Its a sort of false induction too.
Falsely understanding the whole from one of its parts.

By the same token IBM would be communist too, since it supports BLM.

https://builtin.com/diversity-inclusion ... al-justice

IBM's support is shallow, like most people, they probably don't know what BLM is really about, they're just virtue signaling, they have nothing to gain and everything to lose under Marxism.
I have no reason to doubt the sincerity of BLM's support of Marxism.

It's not just one of its parts, like one or a few of its associates or soldiers happens to be Marxist, its leaders are trained Marxists and the organization's activity is an attempt to push society far left socially, politically and economically, towards Marxism.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Gloominary » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:21 pm

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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:34 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Sculptor wrote:
promethean75 wrote:Damn nvm sculptor beat me to it. It's a fallacy of some kind. Maybe the composition fallacy or something like 'at.


No problem.

Yes Gloominary is guilty of the fallacy of composition.
Its a sort of false induction too.
Falsely understanding the whole from one of its parts.

By the same token IBM would be communist too, since it supports BLM.

https://builtin.com/diversity-inclusion ... al-justice

IBM's support is shallow, like most people, they probably don't know what BLM is really about,...

EXCEPT you??
:lol: :lol:
"Marxism" is not a reason not to support BLM, even if you don't like Marxism.
In the same way you cannot redict the usefulness, character and aims of various Christian groups by looking at what Jesus said.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:36 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:gloom all that stuff on the list seems awesome


Right on.
Gee if dat Marxism call me a marxist!!

I think I'm gonna buy a BLM bumber sticker. :lol:
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby promethean75 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:08 pm

Yeah well how we gonna pay for all that shit? You think money just rolls off the press?

And look at what a disaster Marxism was in China, Russia, Cuba, vietNAM, and now in North Korea. Plus Marx was a racist.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Sculptor » Thu Jun 17, 2021 10:10 pm

promethean75 wrote:Yeah well how we gonna pay for all that shit? You think money just rolls off the press?

Yes. money does , in fact do just that.
Money is created on a computer screen.
It what happens to the money that is important.

And most of the stuff on that list would generate money, as it would help people stay evonomically active and generate tax dollars.

Have to the slightest notion of how the economy works?
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby promethean75 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:06 am

All I know is, it's the end of the american way if life again and the communist bastards have been destroying this country since like 1750 or something.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:38 am

No.

Federalism is NOT socialism.

The government having social programs is a part of a federalized republic.

What is NOT a part of republicanism is control over media, money, and medicine.

Socialist control means controlling media and what people believe such as to cause them to vote in accord with the government wishes. Communism is only different in that it doesn't offer the feigned voting veil and simply lets their people know that they have no say - in anything.

Socialism is the total lack of freedom. And all those freebees that you think are so wonderful - who do you think labors day and night to pay for them? - slaves at the command of socialist authoritarian elites - typically having no talent other than to manipulate other people - "politicians" - masters at acquiring and using - OTHER people's money.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Gloominary » Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:57 am

What's the difference between a 'social program' and socialism?

Why can infrastructure and education be a 'social program' but healthcare can't?
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby promethean75 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 2:42 am

"Socialist control means controlling media"

Insofar as media technologies, content and distribution are/is controlled democratically by those who produce it all, then yeah you'd be right. But you mean something on some Goebbels type shit or like Mao's little red book, so you'd be wrong because those chaps were not socialists despite what they told you.

"cause them to vote in accord with the government wishes."

But in a socialist society the people form the government. There would be no battle between two opposing parties that fundamentally disagree on the role of government, taxation policy, minimum wages, public housing, medicare and all that other shit. Political competition would exist only over ideas to improve conditions for everyone. There is certainly gonna be disagreement but these disagreements don't cause party divisions between the workers.

"Socialism is the total lack of freedom."

Some even imagine that in a scenario where great technological advances have been made in automated means of production, and the working classes directly controls that technology as well as what it produces, thereby making both physical labor less necessary and material commodities/services more abundant and easily accessible, freedom might actually INCREASE as a result. There are many ways to work it out, but the general formula is: as much or more commodities/services produced with less human labor at much more affordable prices.

Now that basic outline right there will appeal to any sensible worker and horrify any sensible capitalist. The former's goal is to accomplish this while the latter's is to prevent it at all costs (was that a pun.... 'at all costs'? Costs - capitalists - capital - Kay.)
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:02 am

let us flip the argument....

those who argue against "Marxism" (although they have no actual idea what that
means) anyway, if they are against "Marxism" then what are they actually for?

it means they are for what we have today, massive widespread income inequality,
massive poverty.. people dying from lack of health care,
people dying from lack of food.. in the U.S over 10% of its people suffer from
extreme poverty.....for those doing the numbers, that is over 30 million people....
people forced to work 2 or even three jobs just to survive...the job growth in
America over the last 20 years, has almost been entirely in the low
paying service and retail sector.... which means they don't get benefits, no paid
vacations, no health insurance, no protection from employers who cheat
them out of wages and tips...

and those opposed to "Marxism" are in favor of big business holding our lives
in their hands, with wealth being siphoned from the middle class and working poor
into the hands of the likes of Bezo's and Gates and Buffet...where 500 people own
more wealth then half of the world's population...

and that is what those who opposes Marxism are in favor of....the vast
wealth of the world in the hands of a favored few who then use that power
to buy and sell politicians to create even a more fixed solution that favors
the wealthy....

those who oppose Marxism want....

government of the wealthy, by the wealthy, for the wealthy....

with the wealthy owning not only the means of production, but
a government which only answers to the wealthy and not to the citizens...

that is the America that those who oppose Marxism want....

a world where the powerful wealthy and businesses want a dictatorship
because they can run the world they way they want.. with no impediments to
their wealth or power.....why do you suppose that every dictatorship in the
20th century was funded by the wealthy of America and/or Britain...

Stalin was funded by wall street and British banks as was Hitler...
as was Mao....

and why one wonder would wall street, big business and British banks
fund wanna be dictators?

because the goal is and always will be profits... as long as wall street,
big business and British banks get their profits, they really don't care who
is in charge and what the cost of that dictatorship will be to that country.....

and that is what those who oppose Marxism believe in....

certainly not in freedom and not in the rights of the citizens, but
in profits.. and only in profits... any thing that stands in the way of
profits is removed, eliminated or destroyed... which is why the
corporate elite attack Marxism at every chance they get....
because it threatens their one and only objective in the universe..
that of profits..

so that is why they actively promote propaganda and lies against Marxism
and clowns like UR, observe, gloom, joker, believe in their
propaganda and lies..... they are serving their corporate masters to the
death...even if they don't realize it....and they don't.....

I for one, am not willing to sacrifice my existence and life to allow
the corporate overlords more profits.. and that is why the battle for
Marxism is really the battle against capitalism..... because capitalism
has only one goal and that is profits.. and if your death increases profits,
great, one less mouth on the planet... and more goods for the corporate
overlords to control.....

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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:04 am

Gloominary wrote:What's the difference between a 'social program' and socialism?

Why can infrastructure and education be a 'social program' but healthcare can't?

One involves helping people to work together.
The other requires that they work - and work - and work in a prescribed way.

Providing infrastructure provides a means to allow people to communicate and travel or do other things so as to work together (a society) - or other mutually beneficial concerns concerning inter-human interaction.

But a person's health choices or media choices or labor choices - or financial choices - is another matter. It is an issue of individual choices - free of governing coercion or unnecessary restraints - versus being commanded to do exactly as allowed - entirely constrained by an elite class most likely only concerned with their own wealth and health.

It is class domination versus individual freedom to pursue one's own perception of happiness.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:13 am

Peter Kropotkin wrote:those who argue against "Marxism" (although they have no actual idea what that means) anyway, if they are against "Marxism" then what are they actually for?

Properly restrained capitalism (no monopolies) under constitutional justice - the support of individuals to work for their own sake and concerns as their individual merit and capabilities might allow - restrained only by what their own agreed upon constitution ("social contract") requires.

Socialism (Marxism) is total monopoly control - individual needs mean nothing. You are either a member of a group or you are irrelevant. Replacing all peasants with androids is perfect.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:25 am

Peter Kropotkin: those who argue against "Marxism" (although they have no actual idea what that means) anyway, if they are against "Marxism" then what are they actually for?

Ob: Capitalism is total monopoly control - individual needs mean nothing. You are either a member of a group or you are irrelevant. Replacing all peasants with androids is perfect.

K: there fixed it for you.....

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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:31 am

And when your masters decide that you are too old to be of use - do you imagine that you will just vote them out of office - or will you just take the jab?
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Sculptor » Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:21 am

obsrvr524 wrote:And when your masters decide that you are too old to be of use - do you imagine that you will just vote them out of office - or will you just take the jab?


Same back to you!
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:33 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:And when your masters decide that you are too old to be of use - do you imagine that you will just vote them out of office - or will you just take the jab?


K: this statement makes less sense then you normally make....which masters?
vote who out of office? or will I take the insult of being old?

as far as I am concerned the only "true" masters are the corporate
overlords who control the politicians... I am already too old for my job...
however, I am not able to retire yet... if the retirement age is 67 and the
life expectancy is 76, then after I retire, I can expect to live another
9 years... pretty piss poor compensation for working for 45 plus years....

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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Sculptor » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:04 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:And when your masters decide that you are too old to be of use - do you imagine that you will just vote them out of office - or will you just take the jab?


K: this statement makes less sense then you normally make....which masters?
vote who out of office? or will I take the insult of being old?

as far as I am concerned the only "true" masters are the corporate
overlords who control the politicians... I am already too old for my job...
however, I am not able to retire yet... if the retirement age is 67 and the
life expectancy is 76, then after I retire, I can expect to live another
9 years... pretty piss poor compensation for working for 45 plus years....

Kropotkin


Once a person is on the road to salvation there is not arguing with them. Obsrv is an acolyte of Trumpism. He has lost the power of reason and daily participates in his own oppression.
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:10 pm

obsrvr524: And when your masters decide that you are too old to be of use - do you imagine that you will just vote them out of office - or will you just take the jab?

K: this statement makes less sense then you normally make....which masters?
vote who out of office? or will I take the insult of being old?
as far as I am concerned the only "true" masters are the corporate
overlords who control the politicians... I am already too old for my job...
however, I am not able to retire yet... if the retirement age is 67 and the
life expectancy is 76, then after I retire, I can expect to live another
9 years... pretty piss poor compensation for working for 45 plus years....

S:
Once a person is on the road to salvation there is not arguing with them. Obsrv is an acolyte of Trumpism. He has lost the power of reason and daily participates in his own oppression.[/quote]

K: I know he is lost as is UR.. no, I am writing for the many who read these post but
rarely if ever, post themselves...I want them to think about the many concepts
we bring forth...

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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:25 pm

Gloominary wrote:
Mr Reasonable wrote:gloom all that stuff on the list seems awesome

Some of it does sound cool, free this and that, but if the trade-off is a two-tiered society, one tier for 'BIPOC', women, the vaxxed and another for whites, men and the unvaxxed, tearing up the constitution, massive government overreach, living in pods and eating bugs, open borders, abolishing prisons, the police and replacing them with what, gangs, the red army?
Then I'll pass.
These people don't just want western civilization + some more wealth redistribution and some free shit, they want a reset, a do-over, and they're willing to commit violence en masse.
I agree there oughta be more wealth redistribution from the top 1 to the bottom 99% but we gotta count cost.
Marxism sounded cool too in a lot of ways and that's what this is, Marxism 2.0.



we already have a 2 tiered society
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Re: Marxist Conquest of the US

Postby Gloominary » Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:45 pm

I support some people and ideas on the left but not others.

For America, while I don't agree with everything they stand for, so long as they're not for creating a two-tier (un)vaxxed society (not sure where they stand on that), I support Tulsi, Yang and Sanders in that order, cause they're social democrats, peaceniks, against identity politics and partisanship, but I don't support Biden cause he's a corporatist and a hawk, AOC and 'the squad' cause she's the queen of identity politics and partisanship, and Patrisse Cullors and BLM cause she's a Marxist thug.

For Canada, I supported Jack Layton, fiscally he was to the left of Justin Trudeau, however now I support Maxime Bernier, fiscally I'm ambivalent about him but socially I like his libertarian national populism.
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