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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Motor Daddy » Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:48 pm

Kathrina wrote:Alf was talking about particle physics! PARTICLE PHYSICS!

You, Motor Daddy, do not seem to know what particle physics means at all.


According to Alf, "Particle Physics" hasn't been a thing since the 1970s. Where have you been for the past 50+ years??
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 3:26 pm

Judging by Motor Daddy’s knee jerk religion card play… he’s rather fond of what research in particle physics has done for the industry?

I like to share a few things when it comes to science & religion/philosophy (worldview, interpretation & application)…but don’t want to derail the thread from the insightful OP.
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Kathrina » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:54 pm

Motor Daddy wrote:
Kathrina wrote:Alf was talking about particle physics! PARTICLE PHYSICS!

You, Motor Daddy, do not seem to know what particle physics means at all.

According to Alf, "Particle Physics" hasn't been a thing since the 1970s.

Yes, but he has not said anything about the beginning of the church, as you have done in your reply to him.

Alf has said this:

Alf wrote:So, since the 1970s, particle physics is no longer physics, not even metaphysics, but only magic, witchcraft and, of course, rip-offs.

The following is what you have posted in reply to Alf's post:

Motor Daddy wrote:
Alf wrote:So, since the 1970s, particle physics is no longer physics, not even metaphysics, but only magic, witchcraft and, of course, rip-offs.

Since the 70's?? It goes back all the way back to the beginning, where the church destroyed anyone that opposed their BS!

It's my opinion that the church is still doing that now...destroying anything that stands in their way of making CASH. Religious scientists infiltrating science and promoting BS in order to protect the gold mine that is religion.

The following is what I have posted in reply to your post:

Kathrina wrote:Alf was talking about particle physics! PARTICLE PHYSICS!

You, Motor Daddy, do not seem to know what particle physics means at all.

Alf has referred to the particle physics, and the the particle physics did not exist at all at the time of the "beginning of the church" of which you have spoken in reply to Alf's post. You have claimed namely that the particle physics goes "back all the way back to the beginning, where the church destroyed anyone that opposed their BS!" Read your own text (including semantics) again:

Motor Daddy wrote:It goes back all the way back to the beginning, where the church destroyed anyone that opposed their BS!

No. Particle physics does NOT go "back all the way back to the beginning, where the church destroyed anyone that opposed their BS". BECAUSE: Particle physics did not exist at the time of the beginning of the church, i.e. in the late antiquity!

Why do you not understand that?
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Motor Daddy » Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:07 pm

Kathrina wrote:No. Particle physics does NOT go "back all the way back to the beginning, where the church destroyed anyone that opposed their BS". BECAUSE: Particle physics did not exist at the time of the beginning of the church, i.e. in the late antiquity!

Why do you not understand that?


My point was that "So, since the 1970s, particle physics is no longer physics, not even metaphysics, but only magic, witchcraft and, of course, rip-offs." has been going on long before the 70's, hence my comment "Since the 70's??"

The classification of science as "magic, witchcraft, and the rip-offs" has been going on since the dawn of science. It is not just limited to particle physics.

I did not mean to imply that particle physics goes back to the dawn of science, just that the "magic, witchcraft, and rip-offs" were there all along.

By the way, you've been on this site for almost 6 years with only 304 posts, and now you suddenly come out of the woodwork for this thread about Sabine and particle physics?? Where are you from, Germany??
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Kathrina » Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:22 pm

Motor Daddy wrote:
Kathrina wrote:No. Particle physics does NOT go "back all the way back to the beginning, where the church destroyed anyone that opposed their BS". BECAUSE: Particle physics did not exist at the time of the beginning of the church, i.e. in the late antiquity!

Why do you not understand that?

My point was that "So, since the 1970s, particle physics is no longer physics, not even metaphysics, but only magic, witchcraft and, of course, rip-offs." has been going on long before the 70's, hence my comment "Since the 70's??"

The classification of science as "magic, witchcraft, and the rip-offs" has been going on since the dawn of science. It is not just limited to particle physics.

I did not mean to imply that particle physics goes back to the dawn of science, just that the "magic, witchcraft, and rip-offs" were there all along.

If that is the case, then you have just expressed yourself in a misleading way.

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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Ichthus77 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:28 pm

So one of my professors said that one of the early churchy folks was basically accused of atomism. This is probably what motor daddy is referring to while failing to note that it was an early churchy folk who was accused of said atomism. The power brokers in both religion & government (sometimes those mix) & the military industrial complex (sometimes all three mix, especially if you just define religion as worldview)…just like stats can be manipulated…(the power brokers) can manipulate the data (or lack of it) to maintain power. Such frauds should be lumped in with true Jesus followers every bit as much as those who deny the bodily resurrection of Jesus. That is…not at all.

Sooo now I want to share the stuff I referenced earlier:
1. Shared previously somewhere in ILP: Note reference to Cosmos & Giordano Bruno:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B7Ff-p ... p=drivesdk
2. I have shared recently in ILP, “How dark were the dark ages?” via Prager U:
https://youtu.be/Cqzq01i2O3U
3. Dr. Craig, “Does Science Prove Everything?”
https://youtu.be/vxJQe_FefxY

Just a little tasty taste.
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Motor Daddy » Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:29 pm

Kathrina wrote:Have a nice day!

Whoops! You forgot to answer my question about where you are from. You don't care to discuss where you're from? Why not? "Kathrina" is not a common name in the U.S. but it is very common in Germany.
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Kathrina » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:10 pm

Motor Daddy wrote:
Kathrina wrote:No. Particle physics does NOT go "back all the way back to the beginning, where the church destroyed anyone that opposed their BS". BECAUSE: Particle physics did not exist at the time of the beginning of the church, i.e. in the late antiquity!

Why do you not understand that?


My point was that "So, since the 1970s, particle physics is no longer physics, not even metaphysics, but only magic, witchcraft and, of course, rip-offs." has been going on long before the 70's, hence my comment "Since the 70's??"

The classification of science as "magic, witchcraft, and the rip-offs" has been going on since the dawn of science. It is not just limited to particle physics.

I did not mean to imply that particle physics goes back to the dawn of science, just that the "magic, witchcraft, and rip-offs" were there all along.

By the way, you've been on this site for almost 6 years with only 304 posts, and now you suddenly come out of the woodwork for this thread about Sabine and particle physics?? Where are you from, Germany??

I do NOT "suddenly come out of the woodwork". See: https://ilovephilosophy.com/search.php? ... 6&sr=posts !

Do you think that I am Sabine Hossenfelder?
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Motor Daddy » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:22 pm

Kathrina wrote:
Do you think that I am Sabine Hossenfelder?


I have no idea. Are you Sabine?
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Kathrina » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:35 pm

Motor Daddy wrote:
Kathrina wrote:Have a nice day!

Whoops! You forgot to answer my question about where you are from. You don't care to discuss where you're from? Why not? "Kathrina" is not a common name in the U.S. but it is very common in Germany.

The name Kathrina is not a common name in Germany - at least not more than in the US. You can easily research that. The name Katharina was a common name in Germany. Was! But that was a long time ago. Katharina the Great was from Germany (born as Sophie Auguste Friederike von Anhalt-Zerbst) and became tsarina of Russia. But my name is Kathrina, not Katharina. Anyway, you are wrong again with your assumption. :)

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Neither was I the said German tsarina of Russia nor am I the said German Sabine Hossenfelder.

Motor Daddy wrote:Are you Sabine?

Yes.

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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Fixed Cross » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:34 pm

James considered me his prodigy, then he got involved with Aletheia/Capable who got very deep into the RM:AO stuff and kind of got freaked out about it. I always said Affectance is right but its too nonspecific. But longer time passes, the more I realize James was as pure as minds get. I wished he was still here, damn it. I really miss that brilliance.

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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby MagsJ » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:08 pm

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Sabine is much more eloquent and intelligent than James ever was and will be.. and by the way, James is a She and not a He, and still amongst Us/the living.

So many giveaways, as to who it is.
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Meno_ » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:17 pm

And Sabine, is she a he?
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Meno_ » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:20 pm

Meno_ wrote:And Sabine, is she a he?





Or, even maybe Sabine is James ?
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Meno_ » Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:21 pm

Meno_ wrote:
Meno_ wrote:And Sabine, is she a he?




Or even more a permeable stretch, all of them puppets of themselves? Nothing at this point can be ruled out.








Or, even maybe Sabine is James ?





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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby MagsJ » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:06 pm

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Funny when people find their voice and their wits all of a sudden, isn’t it.. ergo, Meno_
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I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something important at some point in time.. Huh!? ~MagsJ

You’re suggestions and I just simply don’t mix.. like oil on water, or a very bad DJ ~MagsJ

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aes Sanātana Dharma Pali: the eternal way ~it should not be rigid, but inclusive of the best of all knowledge for the sake of Ṛta.. which is endless.
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Re: Sabine - James' Brilliant Daughter

Postby Meno_ » Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:35 pm

That’s what I always found to be the case albeit belatedly.
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