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Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challenge.

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:04 pm

I’ll debate any poster on ILP with their trope against my trope.

The reason it’s so important to me is that I want to be exposed for my trope or I want to expose you for yours.

I’ll debate all members individually.

I think it’s important for these discussions to be ossified in the debate forums rather than buried posts.
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Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:18 pm

I’ll give you some of my tropes...

- morality is objective

- god doesn’t exist

- we all live forever

- all sex is psychopathy

- all marriage is psychopathy

Choose one and debate me, choose all of them and debate me.

I’ve heard it all before... Ecmandu is crazy, Ecmandu just wants attention

These are just excuses.
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Re: Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challe

Postby Aventador » Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:32 pm

I might be interested in one of them, who would moderate?
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Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:23 pm

Aventador wrote:I might be interested in one of them, who would moderate?


Carleas is a very good moderator... but... I like high stakes... I’d leave it to the entire board.
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Postby Aventador » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:33 pm

I can leave it to the entire board to decide the winner, if that's what you mean, but a single, disciplined person must moderate. I have no objection to Carleas if he wants to do it.

We will need a structure too, which I would be happy to leave to whoever the moderator ends up being.
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Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:37 pm

Aventador wrote:I can leave it to the entire board to decide the winner, if that's what you mean, but a single, disciplined person must moderate. I have no objection to Carleas if he wants to do it.

We will need a structure too, which I would be happy to leave to whoever the moderator ends up being.


So... having been here in my infantile state before (like we all were back then)

I suggest 5 rounds. Carleas has obviously been occupied with work and family... but I’m pretty sure he’ll do it, if not... Dan~

What debate do you want to take? (out of curiosity)
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Postby Aventador » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:43 pm

I want to take

- morality is objective

I hear you on Carleas, that's why I'm not sure he'll do it. But I was thinking about it and I don't know who else I would trust. MagsJ is the person with most integrity by far, but I don't know if she can withdraw herself from a subject and be dispassionate. Obsrvr and promethean are intellectually competent, but I wouldn't trust them not to inject their own agendas.

I would veto Dan~. I admire his self-discipline in a lot of things, but I don't consider him impartial or capable of impartiality. In a pinch, I might accept, because of the discipline thing. But probably not.

OK, 5 rounds, I guess that would be...

1. opening arguments

2 - 4 counters

5 conclusions?

do we have anything like a word limit or other kind of limit? I think a moderator might see some worth setting that we can't think of right now.
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Postby Aventador » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:45 pm

I would also suggest that, if at the time we both agree, we can skip round 4.
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Postby Aventador » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:46 pm

Or, if not limits, standards to determine the winner.
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Re: Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challe

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:47 pm

Aventador wrote:I would also suggest that, if at the time we both agree, we can skip round 4.


Oh wow. Cool. You really want to debate me on the other 5? I like it.
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Postby Aventador » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:49 pm

No no, I only want to debate

- morality is objective

what I meant was that, if at the end of round 3 we both feel we argued enough, we can skip to conclusions.
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Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:50 pm

You’ve got it.

Morality is objective!!!

I like that one.

Let’s get Carleas here.
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Re: Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challe

Postby Aventador » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:52 pm

In nomine Patris...
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Postby Aventador » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:57 pm

I think I just got hit by a bolt of inspiration.

If Carleas can't/won't do it, would you agree to WendyDarling?
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Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:58 pm

Aventador wrote:In nomine Patris...


I’ll give you a little prep work.

Everyone wants the best outcomes for themselves.

Some people are empaths... their best outcome is the best outcome for all beings.

Nobody wants their consent violated.

Work on your argument.
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Re: Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challe

Postby Ecmandu » Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:59 pm

Wendy is fine.
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Re: Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challe

Postby Aventador » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:05 am

No no, none of this, save it for the debate.

Ok then we will give Carleas... 3 days? and then we go with Wendy?

To choose the winner, I say we have a 3 day voting period after the debate ends, and whoever votes votes. If nobody votes, or there is a tie, Wendy decides.
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Postby Aventador » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:09 am

Oh yeah, and another thing, a 24 hour limit after each post to post a response? Sound reasonable to you?
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Re: Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challe

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:10 am

Aventador wrote:No no, none of this, save it for the debate.

Ok then we will give Carleas... 3 days? and then we go with Wendy?

To choose the winner, I say we have a 3 day voting period after the debate ends, and whoever votes votes. If nobody votes, or there is a tie, Wendy decides.


Don’t worry about it man. There’s more where that came from. I just want you to prep. What did I state?

5 measly small sentences.

I want this to be an even debate. I want to give you a chance here.

People have put me on ignore and called me a piece of shit so many times in this board, I want to make this unambiguous to them.
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Re: Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challe

Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:12 am

24 hours sounds fine to me.
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Postby Aventador » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:12 am

Hey, sounds fair. Just be sure to include them in your opening argument then.
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Postby Aventador » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:22 am

Do you want a word limit per post?
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Postby Ecmandu » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:28 am

Aventador wrote:Do you want a word limit per post?


Umm... Not more words than one post?

I can condense information to very few words...

But I’ll read everything you write.

I mean... fuck man... one post can be 100 pages on ILP!!! My limit is one page/ post (that’s like 30,000 characters)
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Re: Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challe

Postby Aventador » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:39 am

Understood.
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Re: Man, I’m getting tired of this...! My new debate challe

Postby iambiguous » Wed Jun 23, 2021 2:14 am

We'll need a contest, of course.

Might I suggest abortion...

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