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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby d0rkyd00d » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:43 pm

Gloominary wrote:And I want more accountability, democracy and transparency in government.
The way I see it, we're at war with the 1%, especially the 1% of the 1%, the banksters, globalists and multinationals, and neither the left nor right is sufficient to win this war, because number one, they've been subverted by the 1%, and number two, their primary objective was never really about going after the 1%.
This, to me, is the real crisis, the ever widening disparity between the 99% and 1%, all the other crises are either exaggerated or manufactured largely by the 1% to keep us busy fighting ourselves and one another.


My God, either I'm having a stroke or you and I agree on this.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:17 pm

d0rkyd00d wrote:My God, either I'm having a stroke or you and I agree on this.

Me 3.. though I wish the matter of ethnicity would become a non-issue any time soon.. :-"

The Americas.. the last bastion of bad race-relations.. and that’s on all sides of the colour spectrum.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby iambiguous » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:53 pm

Gloominary wrote:I'm not rightwing tho.


Gloominary wrote:I'm a populist.


Gloominary wrote:Populism is sort of unique.


Gloominary wrote:With populism, the way I define it, the primary objective of sociopolitical action is to attack the 1%, not the 99%.
It's the masses beating the elite at their own game: show us the money.


Gloominary wrote:It's the people wanting more wealth, power and freedom, for the people, and less for the elite.


Gloominary wrote:The right these days wants more rights for all, at least in theory, in practice they often give more rights to the 1%.
The left these days wants more duties for all, at least in theory, in practice they often give more duties to the 99%.
I want more rights for the 99%, and more duties for the 1%.
And I want more accountability, democracy and transparency in government.
The way I see it, we're at war with the 1%, especially the 1% of the 1%, the banksters, globalists and multinationals, and neither the left nor right is sufficient to win this war, because number one, they've been subverted by the 1%, and number two, their primary objective was never really about going after the 1%.
This, to me, is the real crisis, the ever widening disparity between the 99% and 1%, all the other crises are either exaggerated or manufactured largely by the 1% to keep us busy fighting ourselves and one another.


Okay, but my point is to focus less on who you think you are "here and now" and focus more instead, in regard to value judgments, on how all individuals come to acquire them existentially -- re moral and political prejudices -- given the arguments I make on this thread: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 1&t=194382

In other words, in regard to "populism". And in regard further to issues like the role of government, capitalism vs. socialism, race, gender, sexual orientation and any other set of "conflicting goods" that differentiate those on the left end of the political spectrum from those on the right end. How are others not ensnared in this:

If I am always of the opinion that 1] my own values are rooted in dasein and 2] that there are no objective values "I" can reach, then every time I make one particular moral/political leap, I am admitting that I might have gone in the other direction...or that I might just as well have gone in the other direction. Then "I" begins to fracture and fragment to the point there is nothing able to actually keep it all together. At least not with respect to choosing sides morally and politically.

I come back to this over and over again because having thought myself "here and now" into thinking it is a reasonable assessment of the human condition -- of "I" -- in the is/ought world, it is the reason that I construe my own "self" there as "fractured and fragmented".

All I can do then is to exchange posts with those who are not fractured and fragmented. Given a particular set of circumstances. In the hopes that something they impart to me will allow me to yank myself up out of this hole in a No God world.

On the other hand, over the years, in any number of philosophy venues, based on my many experiences with objectivists -- or advocates of one or another "ism" -- it's often them who become more concerned about tumbling down into the hole with me instead.

I've found that most "ism/ist" folks are more invested in attacking those who do not share their own moral and political prejudices as "one of them" [the bad guys] than in exploring human identity as I do in my signature threads.

Of course as a moral and political nihilist, I can't exclude myself from this. I can only explore human identity itself with others who may or may not think like "I" do.
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Start here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176529
Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:17 pm

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..and yet you offer no answer yourself, Iam? Why don’t you try? get off your paternoster, and try.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:09 pm

Comrades, Don Lemon live on CNN said that if you voted for Donald Trump you're a Nazi, racist, and a part of the KKK. He's right you know, clearly the only solution for this is to put Trump supporters in reeducation camps, it's the only way to be sure and safe. We must either execute or imprison every single one of them, they're all simply beyond saving and reforming. We must cleanse and purify our new nation of this insurrectionary menace. 8)

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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby promethean75 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:22 pm

I cant stand that clown don lemon. I'ont even know why Cuomo fucks with him.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:27 pm

Cuomo fucks Lemon?
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:31 pm

promethean75 wrote:I cant stand that clown don lemon. I'ont even know why Cuomo fucks with him.


How dare you say bad things about our great African-American intellectual Don Lemon of the inner political party, he's a bastion of journalistic integrity and will be remembered as such going into the annuals of American history. You sound like you might be one of those insurrectionary klansmen he's talking about. 8)
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby promethean75 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:42 pm

with lemon, wendy. With. You know what? I'm not even. Talk to the hand.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby WendyDarling » Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:50 pm

promethean75 wrote:with lemon, wendy. With. You know what? I'm not even. Talk to the hand.

Well, people who fuck with people have been known to fuck people.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby gib » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:46 am

Zero_Sum wrote:Don't mind me my fellow American comrades with my new avatar and signature, I'm just trying to get use to the new political aesthetics of the new normal inside the United States. 8) :lol: The Demshivek political party approves comrades, glory and victory to the great people's republic of the U.S.S.A. We're a new nation now reborn.

Just trying to make sure I make the secret police happy so that later on I don't get sent to the gulags.



Well, at least your not trying to hide it.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby promethean75 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:44 pm

Oh zero is one of my favorites... but only because I'm a connoisseur of irony.

The best thing that could ever happen to zero would be a communist takeover. And as he suffers in his solitude and poverty, he is taught that the marxists are his enemy.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Meno_ » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:59 pm

Of course, hidden within the fold , is the hidden lining of an inevitable red scare, inverted of course, to be foul proof against proselytizing reserves of doubt, making anything like it before seem like child play.

Something too rotten in Denmark , that even Hamlet's monologue cannot drain and deputrify from the foulness of the swamp underneath , without poisoning the whole environment.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby gib » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:58 pm

promethean75 wrote:Oh zero is one of my favorites... but only because I'm a connoisseur of irony.

The best thing that could ever happen to zero would be a communist takeover. And as he suffers in his solitude and poverty, he is taught that the marxists are his enemy.


I think his point is that he wants to get on their good side in order to minimize the chances of that happening.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:58 pm

To the glorious future comrades! 8)

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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby promethean75 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:44 pm

I think this is the one you were looking for.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:48 am

promethean75 wrote:I think this is the one you were looking for.


Truly a robotic communist social utopia comrade, don't argue against progress citizen. This is the wave of the future. 8)
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby promethean75 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:50 am

ah hah tricked u! that's what your life will be like if Jodie and the capitalists win, bro.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:26 pm

Comrades our glorious leader Joe Biden is about to legalize or give American citizenship to 11 million foreigners, this is good I say because it will make sure that us Demshiveks will stay in power the next 150 years and because it will completely crush Whiteness within the United States. Only racists believe that foreign immigration reduces or destroys wages, it is evil white racists who talk like that. These evil white racists deserve to be replaced and their jobs taken by others.

National borders are racist, we are now a new nation without racist borders.

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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:42 pm

Comrades, under special and much deliberating within the political politburo we've decided that we need to take extra steps in being a multilingual nation [without evil racist borders of course] that's why we've decided that Mandarin should become the official language of the United States with Spanish as a close secondary language. Within the next fifteen years every child in public education will learn how to speak Mandarin and Spanish. Dare I say it, but within 75 years it's quite possible that English will be a minority language that will simply die out from overall usage.

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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:08 pm

Comrades there has been much talk on the new economic stimulus talks coming out under our heads of leadership concerning the Biden and Harris administration where everybody is supposed to be given $1400.00 particularly on the affordance of such an economic redistribution financial package. From what I can gather we're going to make a deal with our greatest ally in China concerning the Chinese central bank to which they're going to loan us the money with credit interest. It is good to have great allies with our fellow communist Chinese otherwise we wouldn't be able to economically build back better under Biden without them. In return for loaning us the money all previous economic sanctions against them by the fascist would be Hitler Donald Trump will be null and void where as a favor we will open up the nation entirely to Chinese capital investments. This is a huge win for everybody.

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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:48 pm

Gloominary wrote:[we can eat post-meat, bugs, recycled shit and soylent green.
We all have to make sacrifices, it's for the earth, except for commissar Bill Gates, commissar Mark Zuckerberg and the other commissars of course, they don't have to make sacrifices, they're VIPs.
This just in, the scientific community says recycled shit is nutritionally superior to meat.
Funny, me and my friends don't feel as healthy since we've started eating it, and we've been getting sick more often, but they tell us our bodies just need time, like a couple of years or so to adjust.
In any case, what do we know?
We're just filthy, dirty little unwashed plebs.
The scientific community on the other hand, is infallible, incorruptible, and it's a crime to question it, as it should be.
I'm so happy I don't have to think for myself anymore, feels great to be irresponsible.


Comrade Gloominary, you bring up an excellent subject regarding eating and dieting within the new green economy, frankly with global warming, little polar bears being stranded on ice, and just the overall carbon footprint I think everybody needs to go on a starvation diet. It's the only way we can move forward to save the future of this planet and if people have to eat bugs or human feces then they better get use to cutting the mustard on that shit sandwich enjoying it. If people object to these progressive aims they're literally supporting the holocaust and genocide of the entire planet, they're literally environmental Hitlers.
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:58 pm

Столичная, ура товарищи!

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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:26 pm

Gloominary wrote:Just a suggestion, perhaps we should eliminate the concept of gender altogether.
Personally, and there's some psychiatric data to back me up here, I believe there's 7.8 billion genders, one for each person.
Hell, there's even more than that, one for each moment.
The very notion of gender itself is just a patriarchal, white supremacist construct of oppression.


Comrade Gloominary, there very well may be 7.8 billion different genders but I'm no expert myself as a humble Commisar and hired man of the secret police. There may very well come a day when we explore outer space coming in contact with extraterrestrials and we find out upon discovery that there is indeed six trillion different genders if not more. For now I leave it to our great expert LGBQT Marxist intellectuals to decide these sort of things. 8)
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Re: Dear comrades, my new avatar and signature.

Postby Mr J » Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:32 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Guys, please stop this......

You know how confused PK gets when he starts agreeing with you.


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