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Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:58 pm

Here’s the link:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

Trump is a psychopathic authoritarian dictator, always has been.

I’m proud of the senate for this.
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Re: Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby promethean75 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:08 pm

The freedom of speech concept is paradoxical and has never really existed in the first place.

If there were freedom of speech, no conservative would be angered by a liberal who wanted to censor certain kinds of language. He has the freedom of speech to say 'I dont think you should say that', and the conservative can do nothing about it.
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Re: Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:14 pm

promethean75 wrote:The freedom of speech concept is paradoxical and has never really existed in the first place.

If there were freedom of speech, no conservative would be angered by a liberal who wanted to censor certain kinds of language. He has the freedom of speech to say 'I dont think you should say that', and the conservative can do nothing about it.



We’ve amended it over the years so that some speech is criminal: say, yelling fire in a crowded movie theater.

The thing about this change is that it’s not true AT THE TIME! But after the fact.

To say that companies cannot allow freedom of speech proactively is some serious shit.

There are two things that make America great;

1.) freedom of speech
2.) freedom of enterprise

Donald Trump is destroying both of them.

He’s made monopolies easier, not harder, that no longer is freedom of enterprise.
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Re: Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:16 pm

I think both of those comments are complete nonsense.

"Freedom of speech does NOT mean "the freedom to silence the speech of others".
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Re: Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:28 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:I think both of those comments are complete nonsense.

"Freedom of speech does NOT mean "the freedom to silence the speech of others".


Dude, you obviously didn’t get what I said

Maybe I was unclear. Trump wants to make the lack of freedom of speech proactive and not retroactive.

When you yell fire in a movie theatre you are not instantly sent to prison. You have a trial where you can make your case. The Trump law sends you immediately to prison for violating freedom of speech.

No due process.
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Re: Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby promethean75 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:30 pm

But it is the right of a democratic assembly to agree to censoring certain kinds of language.

Hold on game started
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Re: Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:38 pm

promethean75 wrote:But it is the right of a democratic assembly to agree to censoring certain kinds of language.

Hold on game started


Of course it is. It is also the right of a democratic assembly to decide to turn the US into Russia or a China ... that’s our right as citizens. The question I ask you, are citizens informed and does that make such a transfer legal ?

Trump is obviously a psychopath. I’m not going to call him a Nazi ... he’s a psychopath. Every psychopath has the same dream... totalitarianism.

Biden, while still squarely on my list of narcissists, is not a psychopath.

Did I vote for Biden? Fuck no. I voted for one of the 100 other parties in the United States that the fake news never reports upon.
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Re: Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby promethean75 » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:54 pm

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Re: Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Dec 12, 2020 12:24 am

Let’s put trump in perspective here for a moment...

1/4 of his entire administration has been trips to his golf courses. Over 365 trips in 4 years. The most of any president (by far!) (also, trump has never once read a presidential briefing - but I digress) ( Each trip costs over a million dollars each (Air Force 1, secret service. Etc...). But to add insult to injury, he bills the US government to stay at his hotels!!!! Fucking insane that we even humor this guy!

And here’s the deal... he turned down his presidential salary!! Oh... what a saint!!! What? That’s 400,000 a year... fucking hilarious!!!

Donald Trump is a broke ass bitch psychopath in debt to the mob for billions of dollars.

That’s the truth about Trump
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Re: Trump hates freedom of speech

Postby d0rkyd00d » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:32 pm

The notion that any mainstream media outlets should be shut down, are the enemy of the people, etc. is dangerous.

I would be adamantly opposed to any suggestion by Biden/Harris to shut down OANN, Parler, etc. The war of ideas should be played out in the public forum.
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