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The People vs The Masses

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:38 am

As before Trump overcame his last of the Republican adversaries in the primaries, so now the olden GOP closes ranks with the Dems to ensure a true president will never again be elected.

We the People, domestic and abroad, are watching closely, but this doesnt bother them in the least -they know intellectual effort is outranked entirely by muscular efforts on all fronts in this world, to paraphrase Emerson. Watching and understand what happens doesnt mean having an influence. Still we can not avert our eyes from this prepostrous situation, knowing it is the pivotal moment in our time, the moment in which the intellectual idea of democracy and rule of law is being simply disregarded with the consent of roughly half of the population.

Where officials naturally pretend that they do not see the towering evidence as being relevant (the argument being that such things only cause unrest), the left winged voters as well as a good deal of right wing ones are increasingly expressing the sentiment: So they cheated, weve done it before. That is politics. They simply outsmarted the Trump campaign. This indicates that the law has become a trivial obstacle to the path to the indolent peace of mind that the masses are craving for. "Election fatigue" - they just want it over with.

The distinction, leaving out of the equation entirely the politicians and their traditionally corrupt ways, is now between the Masses and the People. The former are somewhat happy, though they do not express any joy, to simply accept that the ruling elites have proven their will to rule. The latter are driven by stronger reasons, they stand in principle and fairness, as they know these things instinctively to be the last line of defense of human dignity. The masses do not want dignity, they werent ever given any and wouldnt know what to do with it, therefore they dont seek to explain themselves and simply want the nagging notion of it to go away so that they can sleep, as this world offers them very little to promise any value in the exertion of their will - they are happiest to be as trivial as possible. The People are a different species, ontologically speaking - they are driven on by structural integrity, which is nature's engine. Rather than parasites, they are bestowers of virtue, and in this time we will need (in my rough estimation) the efforts of 1 of the People to counterbalance the corruption of 3 members of the masses. All People must now, on average, carry 3 piece of human cattle on their back. In terms of virtuous effort.
Here is a thread to document that effort.

Here is today's snapshot of the trenches.

Crowd Erupts in Cheers as Giuliani Tells AZ State Lawmakers: “Your Political Career is Worth Losing if You Can Save the Right to Vote in America”

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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:50 am

I've been contemplating the justification a lot recently that Trump should call in the military and hold office at gun point, then force military tribunals against Congress until the fraud is exposed.

THEN he can concede.

You're right though. Why should the far-right "play fair" if the far-left throws out, spits on, rips, and burns the US Constitution???
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby perpetualburn » Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:19 am

Fixed Cross wrote:Where officials naturally pretend that they do not see the towering evidence as being relevant (the argument being that such things only cause unrest), the left winged voters as well as a good deal of right wing ones are increasingly expressing the sentiment: So they cheated, weve done it before. That is politics. They simply outsmarted the Trump campaign. This indicates that the law has become a trivial obstacle to the path to the indolent peace of mind that the masses are craving for. "Election fatigue" - they just want it over with.


They've cheated, lied, stole, perpetrated the greatest scam in human history (covid-1984), remorselessly trampled on basic rights with impunity, crushed hundreds of thousands of small businesses into the ground while further increasing the wealth and consolidating the power of billionaires... they've done all this, and the only thing on the minds of the low-energy masses is... "omg, just concede so I continue on living as if nothing is going on. I just want to take my vaccine and go back to "normal" where where nothing exists outside my bubble of conformity and compliance... those pesky freedom-lovers are stressing me out"

It might actually be over with unless there enough people out there who take this seriously:

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic"
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:42 am

Well said
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Postby promethean75 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:48 pm

"while further increasing the wealth and consolidating the power of billionaires"

Very probably, yes, but the difference between these two wealthy warring political parties is that the democratic party tends to channel and direct power toward the interests of the working class more so than the other party, and in very direct ways that have immediate results. They do not wait for some obscure 'trickle down' bullshit effect the economists promised would happen once capitalism got rolling. If anything the shit is now trickling up and that shouldnt even be possible in a gravitational field I mean c'mon water cant go up dude wtf.
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:02 pm

Right, Perpetual.
Urwrong - he cant concede without committing high treason, as per the vow Perpetual quoted.

Crap, these Chinese Iranian Californian forces dont play around. Even this thread is marked.



A thought, broadly applicable to this everlasting war:

"Society everywhere is in conspiracy against the manhood of every one of its members. Society is a joint-stock company, in which the members agree, for the better securing of his bread to each shareholder, to surrender the liberty and culture of the eater. The virtue in most request is conformity. Self-reliance is its aversion. It loves not realities and creators, but names and customs."

-Emerson, essay on Self-Reliance


to wit:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/covid ... rist-warns
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby promethean75 » Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:51 pm

"Crap, these Chinese Iranian Californian forces dont play around. Even this thread is marked."

The chinese are perhaps the only people left on the planet not assimilated by the evil Jewish Zionist capitalist deepstate, besides ourselves.

... and you will pay dearly for what you did to our beloved scientist!
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby perpetualburn » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:04 pm

There's a growing and seemingly irreconcilable divide happening now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nMULJOsXPI

3:14 ..."The most massive and historical, egregious fraud the world has ever seen" - Trump camp
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CNN (I was watching it earlier this morning). They were literally saying all claims of fraud are completely "baseless" and that "He's lying" [Trump]


The way I see it, they will keep doubling down on their lies, they will never apologize, they will never admit to wrongdoing, to spreading fear and panic, for being responsible for some much destruction, chaos and despair... If Trump manages to actually win, the left will just dial up the volume on covid-terror84 ... CNN's death counter will remain permanently fixed to the right side of the screen like some apocalyptic count down (or count up rather).

In a way, you have to respect the impressive death grip the left has on shaping public perception... No matter how much evidence piles up that contradicts their narrative, they simply keep on lying with diabolical consistency (Hell, they don't even acknowledge the evidence is there to begin with and try to reasonably downplay it)... It's like some collective super-predator with unlimited funds and energy to keep this psychotic charade going until all sparks of resistance are extinguished forever.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals." - C.S. Lewis

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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:06 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0xaA4dYsbQ

I think you guys are right. Trump has a duty to the Constitution and Republic not to concede to these Marxists and Communists underneath the DNC and Biden.

He needs to keep Office, even if military force is necessary...
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Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:20 am

Preying on the fear and shame of morons is not something I could respect, not just because it is too ugly - its too easy. As a Nietzschean, thoroughly aware of the weakness of the average human, Im not impressed with any scheme that capitalizes on that weakness - that would mean Id have to respect the pope and every priest catering to intellectual and nervous feebleness in the name of some doctrine.

What I also dont respect is this attitude in the comments to the video you linked:

Hell no we cannot believe we are witnessing this crap...WE WANT SOMETHING DONE NOW


Why aren't arrests being made , Patriots want results...


"Please cater to my moral indignation!" This attitude is the precise reason that the Chinese coup is getting so much traction. People have been led to believe that their opinion matters, that it can move things. It cant. These are the Rights slowflakes.

What impresses me, if anything does in this coup, is the demonstration of the absence of self-valuing integrity in the average human, the demonstration of the claims Nietzsche has made about mankind - this often enough makes me laugh. I cant help but laugh when I see one of these morons wearing a mask on his scooter or in his car. Its inconceivably pathetic, and clearly these people were just as pathetic before they were allowed to bring it to the surface in the name of obedience. So thats good. Strong humans are being forced to become aware of the abysmal nature of weak humans, which means that a Nietzschean type stratification is already in progress. This process will, I expect, last a thousand years and is a natural process -the idea of mankind as a homogenic species was going to fall one way or the other.



Urwrong; if he would concede the Republic would be sacrificed to China, half of the population would know it, meaning a big change in the instincts of the population. There is no instinctive reason to keep to the law when the Constitution itself has been breached in the open as if it didnt exist. The instinct of the herd for obedience to their government will be sabotaged. I expect that this is what the smarter Chinese are counting on - the collapse of the US politically, economically and mentally, so that it can buy up the remains and rule the Earth. Obviously I have more respect for the Chinese than for the Americans they bought. I dont truly respect the regime as its methods and aims are disgusting, but at least it is acting in its own interests.

Watch these podcasts by the way. This is what is worthy of my admiration. People with spines.
https://pandemic.warroom.org/
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:24 am

You're absolutely fucking Right FC. I shed a tear just now. This is IT.

Can you offer a response here?

https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... ;p=2787790
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:33 am

Fixed Cross wrote:https://pandemic.warroom.org/

Dear Christ!?

These mother fucking Traitors have been calling "No Evidence"... my God.
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:11 am

Urwrong, thanks. The link doesnt go anywhere but I presume its the thread with the question about the military.
I think it is wiser for me to not to answer that question at this point - I prefer to stick to fields where I carry authority, such as analysis and prediction. We agree on the basic idea and so do many millions of humans of the stronger variety.
These mother fucking Traitors have been calling "No Evidence"... my God.

Ive been watching Warroom since election night, we could see the steal happen live, and since that day the evidence has been piling up. Ive never seen so much evidence of a crime. Its almost hilarious. Like how the buildings of the Dominion company are now all abandoned and no one can find a single person that worked there. Theyre all in the basement with Hunter I presume.
(The streaming video is something different from the actual podcast. Heres the podcast.
https://listen.warroom.org/e/ep-552-pan ... ael-walsh/ )
Also follow https://www.revolver.news/
There is a lot out there in terms of true reporting. Its all being censored by google naturally but you can run into it through these hubs. If you find some thing worth mentioning (of which there is a great deal) please dont hesitate to post it here. A hub for getting to actual facts.
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby promethean75 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:44 am

"I expect that this is what the smarter Chinese are counting on - the collapse of the US politically"

You might note that for the majority of working people... or I should say for the majority of people who are always the workers, the basic likeness of everyday living and the activities that constitute our day, has always been more or less the same insofar as it's always involved work.

This being the case, there has never and could never be a fundamental 'collapse' of human society (save natural disaster), because despite what shape a society is in and how it is governed, typically the days are filled by working on something under/in some conditions or another.

Now keep this in mind and then look at all the radically different societies structured and run by diametrically opposed government styles. What was much different for the working classes in each of these examples? Not much... nothing important or noticable as a danger to the way of life. In short, they still did the same shit and it didnt matter whether you called it a democracy or an anarchy or a totalitarianacy.

The point should be home by now. There are no collapses, only reorganizations of the same basic activities. Call it metapolitical nominalism. Such things as 'countries' and 'nations' are not subjects in the purest materialist sense, but predicates more so. Imaginary lines between individual sets all doing the same thing, hence the redundancy of dividing here.
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:52 am

The lines are neither ideological nor arbitrary. They are real and have severe consequences when crossed.

If you want to live under the thumb of the CCP, and give up your God-given Human Rights, under the US Constitution, then you can go ahead and do so.

But don't expect the rest of America to follow you into a willing slavery.
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby promethean75 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:03 am

"Why would Asians and European Americans respond to happiness so differently? One reason suggested in the paper is that Asians seem to define advancement of social harmony as more worthy than mere individual success. This theory about Asian culture is certainly not new — philosophers have compared Confucian ideals regarding interpersonal enlightenment with Western ideals regarding individual achievement at least since the 19th century."

https://healthland.time.com/2011/05/04/ ... americans/

Now member what I wuz saying about how asians didn't develop the transdialacanic mirror stage element that allows the distinction of the ego to be made between the self and the other? Well there it is bruh.

But I'm not saying Europeans couldnt do it. I mean be as emotionally neutralized like vulcans as the asians are. But it'll take time because they've looked so different, so much variation in phenotype, for so long, that they make these multifarious distinctions between them that puts them into tedious conflict asians dont get into. That's why they laugh at us. They dont understand why we stress and fight so much and we look funny to them. Vulcans dude. Dragon people.
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Postby promethean75 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:10 am

Find any classical piece on piano you want and I'll find an asian who plays it faster and better than the white guy who wrote it. Vulcans dude. Their physicists solve the same problems faster than physicists from other ethnic groups. They did a study in Switzerland with a bunch of physicists and they had to solve equations or whatever, and the asians won that shit.

No I made that up. But if they did do something like that, the asians would win dude. Not some handsome blonde with a very promising future from Denmark. I'm sorry.
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby promethean75 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:18 am

I have reason to believe that fixed jakob is an agent of mossad who has been trained to play a guy playing a mossad agent playing a guy playing a mossad agent. I will not reveal my sources, but ive learned that fixed jakob is known as the 'mossad marquee', and is responsible for a series of very bad threads over a large number of internet forums. He is a deep state zionist emcee disseminating seditious ideas against the interests of the working classes.... and I have been assigned to stop him.
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Postby Urwrongx1000 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:34 am

Best pianists are Eastern Europeans, hands-down, no contest
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby perpetualburn » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:15 am

Fixed Cross wrote:Preying on the fear and shame of morons is not something I could respect, not just because it is too ugly - its too easy. As a Nietzschean, thoroughly aware of the weakness of the average human, Im not impressed with any scheme that capitalizes on that weakness - that would mean Id have to respect the pope and every priest catering to intellectual and nervous feebleness in the name of some doctrine.


Perhaps "respect" isn't the right word... But one should be able to size up one's enemy... especially its intelligence and capabilities

What impresses me, if anything does in this coup, is the demonstration of the absence of self-valuing integrity in the average human, the demonstration of the claims Nietzsche has made about mankind - this often enough makes me laugh. I cant help but laugh when I see one of these morons wearing a mask on his scooter or in his car. Its inconceivably pathetic, and clearly these people were just as pathetic before they were allowed to bring it to the surface in the name of obedience. So thats good. Strong humans are being forced to become aware of the abysmal nature of weak humans, which means that a Nietzschean type stratification is already in progress. This process will, I expect, last a thousand years and is a natural process -the idea of mankind as a homogenic species was going to fall one way or the other.


Speaking of priests and stratification...

" As long as the priest was considered the supreme type, every valuable kind of human being was devaluated. The time will come, I promise, when the priest will be considered the lowest type, our chandala the most mendacious, the most indecent kind of human being." -N twilight
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby perpetualburn » Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:19 am

promethean75 wrote:Find any classical piece on piano you want and I'll find an asian who plays it faster and better than the white guy who wrote it. Vulcans dude. Their physicists solve the same problems faster than physicists from other ethnic groups. They did a study in Switzerland with a bunch of physicists and they had to solve equations or whatever, and the asians won that shit.

No I made that up. But if they did do something like that, the asians would win dude. Not some handsome blonde with a very promising future from Denmark. I'm sorry.


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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:22 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:The lines are neither ideological nor arbitrary.

Good point. They are lines of human quality.
Degradation - do you willingly participate or do your instincts rebel?
I see castes being created.
Both China and the West have an enormous slave population. They also have massive amounts of geniuses and warriors, both East and West have them in spades.
A time beyond morality is now dawning, where no ideology, that includes nationalism in the generic sense, but excludes the loyalty to an intelligently designed Constitutional Democracy, for the sake of loyalty to oneself as a spirit.
Marxism disallows spirit, but China has only used Marxism as a means to transform itself into an industrial nation. Now it is what it always wanted to be, for which it has planned for six thousand years at least; the center of the world.
Their spirit has overtaken the West decades ago, perhaps even a full century, in tandem with India, through the void-energy arts and the concepts of enlightenment through pleasurable practices, rather than through devotion to human sacrifice. The latter is a traumatic and kathartic doctrine, the former a smooth flowing one. This smooth flow is the most insidious enemy one could ever find, and the most reliable ally. It has found its way into business negotiations since Mao played the Soviets against the Americans and acquired a "world-stance".
This is what America is lacking since it sacrificed its ideology to top-down egalitarianism, the decadent consequence of Marxism. China used Marx as a raw engine to process a population into a "team" under an autocratic manager, the West suffered Marxism as a means to slip into decadence, self-pity, anger, self-justifying unhappiness with the world in which one is born.
China did better. But we ruled for a vast age and produced so much culture that this world will always be ours. China will remain a footnote in the development of the sciences that enabled its dominance.
So there's that.

If you want to live under the thumb of the CCP, and give up your God-given Human Rights, under the US Constitution, then you can go ahead and do so.

But don't expect the rest of America to follow you into a willing slavery.

And he does. The lower castes do wish sincerely to be led by an invisible hand through a commanded economy. They are by nature averse to self-organization, though not always through weakness. Promethean is hardly weak, but his instincts revolt at close inspection of the nature of power. There is bliss in that, to live outside of power, a bliss of moksha, renunciation, many call it the one spiritual path but by all eastern traditions it is the path of the outcast, the one who does not belong to the Hierarchy. Occidentalism is the architecture of this Hierarchy, called the White Lodge. What we see, or rather, that of which the population sees the shadow in this moment, is the confrontation of the White Lodge with the Yellow Dragon. This showdown is the capstone of the conflict, and the true values in play are being exchanged here. In the lower phases of the world the economics of the showdown arent driven by exchange but by deprivation, and the conflict is not between two adversaries but between the egoic human being and his nature. Freud has made this fall from grace of the western man explicit, where he was on top of the world but "wasnt happy". Happiness as a modern concept was introduced through the experience of dissatisfaction. The Chinese elixir of chi turned out to be able to fill this thirst and satisfy the ego in the early stages of decadence, and so was produced: California. The end and down-going of the West.

What remains, what resists down-going? Indeed the answer is beyond ideology and as far from arbitrary as can be; the enlightened will. That which creates ideologies as wheels for its cart, so that it may stubbornly pull it through the mud of mortality, and exist. The pure will to exist as a creator, this is the western spine and naturally it will not be broken - we are merely shedding the illusion of all being the same type of animal.

perpetualburn wrote:Perhaps "respect" isn't the right word... But one should be able to size up one's enemy... especially its intelligence and capabilities

I misspelled your name as perpetualborn. Still corrected it. But yes. The enemy however is not the American left, they are dancing puppets wildly gesticulating in suggestion of their subjects perverse weakness, the strings are being pulled by a mind which knows us much better than these weird "representatives". What I am interested in as far as the war goes is the inevitable role of China in the affairs of the electronically unified world - so that, given its place, it may not further infringe upon the Greek world, which is our world, a terrain the Chinese do not understand. They have seen our weakness and made use of it, but the strength which has produced the institutions which allowed us to weaken is largely unknown to them as it was falling asleep by the time they began to rise beyond their age old limits. How much of this strength is even still alive? According to Nietzsche a stratification of this strength would prove necessary to truly unleash it. We can thank China for administering the poison that separates our weak from our strong and divides our culture into two types, which form fluid proto-castes; a warrior caste and a worker bee caste. Not nearly all of who belong to the latter are slaves in the full sense of the word as nature is fluid and, in the Dionysiac agency that is the Occident, generous with catharsis and opportunity for upward mobility even in terms of the will, but all of them are afraid of their psyches. This is what separates; the taste for truth, willingness or unwillingness to look the truth of ones subjective being in its merciless eye - The One Eyed. The cold which invigorates. The wolves, not the hell hound of Ragnarok which is the scourge of the masses, their uncontrollable decay, but the team-work of the earthly wolf-pack. Wolves know, inexplicably, where their brethren are, they coordinate in their hunt. How does one recognize in our culture this coordinating psychomancy of the western soul? I call it philosophy. And like the founders of Rome, its agents are raised by wolves.

Freedom is a tricky thing. It aint for everyone, truly it isnt. It requires coordination and something which those that do not possess it call faith. Once more I invoke Odin, whose spear represents the spine, whose sacrifice of himself was only to himself, he did not have the desire to rule over anyone except himself - and he carried out the consequences of that desire to the great ultimate - to the tai chi, in Chinese. Im not sure if thats Mandarin or Cantonese. I know kung fu is cantonese for good work. The Chinese can pride themselves on a job well done - they have posited an actual challenge to the western spirit - and just in time, as it was about to die of boredom.

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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:46 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/joe-biden-return-cfr

Tyler Durden of Zerohedge wrote:In 2008, Barack Obama received the names of his entire future cabinet already one month prior to his election by CFR Senior Fellow (and Citigroup banker) Michael Froman, as a Wikileaks email later revealed. Consequently, the key posts in Obama’s cabinet were filled almost exclusively by CFR members, as was the case in most cabinets since World War II. To be sure, Obama’s 2008 Republican opponent, the late John McCain, was a CFR member, too. Michael Froman later negotiated the TPP and TTIP international trade agreements, before returning to the CFR as a Distinguished Fellow.

In 2017, CFR nightmare President Donald Trump immediately canceled these trade agreements – because he viewed them as detrimental to US domestic industry – which allowed China to conclude its own, recently announced RCEP free-trade area, encompassing 14 countries and a third of global trade. Trump also canceled other CFR achievements, like the multinational Iran nuclear deal and the UN climate and migration agreements, and he tried, but largely failed, to withdraw US troops from East Asia, Central Asia, the Middle East, Europe and Africa, thus seriously endangering the global US empire built over decades by the CFR and its 5000 elite members.

Unsurprisingly, most of the US media, whose owners and editors are themselves members of the CFR, didn’t like President Trump. This was also true for most of the European media, whose owners and editors are members of international CFR affiliates like the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission, founded by CFR directors after the conquest of Europe during World War II. Moreover, it was none other than the CFR which in 1996 advocated a closer cooperation between the CIA and the media, i.e. a restart of the famous CIA Operation Mockingbird. Historically, OSS and CIA directors since William Donovan and Allen Dulles have always been CFR members.

Joe Biden promised that he would form “the most diverse cabinet” in US history. This may be true in terms of skin color and gender, but almost all of his key future cabinet members have one thing in common: they are, indeed, members of the US Council on Foreign Relations.

This is the case for Anthony Blinken (State), Alejandro Mayorkas (Homeland Security), Janet Yellen (Treasury), Michele Flournoy and Jeh Johnson (candidates for Defense), Linda Thomas-Greenfield (Ambassador to the UN), Richard Stengel (US Agency for Global Media; Stengel famously called propaganda “a good thing” at a 2018 CFR session), John Kerry (Special Envoy for Climate), Nelson Cunningham (candidate for Trade), and Thomas Donilon (candidate for CIA Director).

Jake Sullivan, Biden’s National Security Advisor, is not (yet) a CFR member, but Sullivan has been a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (a think tank “promoting active international engagement by the United States”) and a member of the US German Marshall Fund’s “Alliance For Securing Democracy” (a major promoter of the “Russiagate” disinformation campaign to restrain the Trump presidency), both of which are run by senior CFR members.

Most of Biden’s CFR-vetted nominees supported recent US wars against Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen as well as the 2014 regime change in Ukraine. Unsurprisingly, neoconservative Max Boot, the CFR Senior Fellow in National Security Studies and one of the most vocal opponents of the Trump administration, has called Biden’s future cabinet “America’s A-Team”.

Thus, after four years of “populism” and “isolationism”, a Biden presidency will mean the return of the Council on Foreign Relations and the continuation of a tradition of more than 70 years. Indeed, the CFR was founded in 1921 in response to the “trauma of 1920”, when US President Warren Harding and the US Senate turned isolationist and renounced US global leadership after World War I. In 2016, Donald Trump’s “America First” campaign reactivated this 100 year old foreign policy trauma.

Was the 2020 presidential election “stolen”, as some allege? There are certainly indications of significant statistical anomalies in key Democrat-run swing states. Whether these were decisive for the election outcome may be up to courts to decide. At any rate, Joe Biden may well be the first US President known to be involved in international corruption before even entering office.

Why are most US and international media hardly interested in this? Well, why should they?


Indeed.

The role of the Media is in evolutionary dispute here. Mankind can not evolve further under the yoke of - or rather under the laziness granted by the mass-media. Lying used to be an art, now it isnt even a craft anymore. The media are no longer valid, the masses are no longer valid.
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:58 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/joe-biden-return-cfr

Tyler Durden of Zerohedge wrote:In 2008, Barack Obama received the names of his entire future cabinet already one month prior to his election by CFR Senior Fellow (and Citigroup banker) Michael Froman, as a Wikileaks email later revealed. Consequently, the key posts in Obama’s cabinet were filled almost exclusively by CFR members, as was the case in most cabinets since World War II. To be sure, Obama’s 2008 Republican opponent, the late John McCain, was a CFR member, too. Michael Froman later negotiated the TPP and TTIP international trade agreements, before returning to the CFR as a Distinguished Fellow.

In 2017, CFR nightmare President Donald Trump immediately canceled these trade agreements – because he viewed them as detrimental to US domestic industry – which allowed China to conclude its own, recently announced RCEP free-trade area, encompassing 14 countries and a third of global trade. Trump also canceled other CFR achievements, like the multinational Iran nuclear deal and the UN climate and migration agreements, and he tried, but largely failed, to withdraw US troops from East Asia, Central Asia, the Middle East, Europe and Africa, thus seriously endangering the global US empire built over decades by the CFR and its 5000 elite members.

Unsurprisingly, most of the US media, whose owners and editors are themselves members of the CFR, didn’t like President Trump. This was also true for most of the European media, whose owners and editors are members of international CFR affiliates like the Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission, founded by CFR directors after the conquest of Europe during World War II. Moreover, it was none other than the CFR which in 1996 advocated a closer cooperation between the CIA and the media, i.e. a restart of the famous CIA Operation Mockingbird. Historically, OSS and CIA directors since William Donovan and Allen Dulles have always been CFR members.

Joe Biden promised that he would form “the most diverse cabinet” in US history. This may be true in terms of skin color and gender, but almost all of his key future cabinet members have one thing in common: they are, indeed, members of the US Council on Foreign Relations.

This is the case for Anthony Blinken (State), Alejandro Mayorkas (Homeland Security), Janet Yellen (Treasury), Michele Flournoy and Jeh Johnson (candidates for Defense), Linda Thomas-Greenfield (Ambassador to the UN), Richard Stengel (US Agency for Global Media; Stengel famously called propaganda “a good thing” at a 2018 CFR session), John Kerry (Special Envoy for Climate), Nelson Cunningham (candidate for Trade), and Thomas Donilon (candidate for CIA Director).

Jake Sullivan, Biden’s National Security Advisor, is not (yet) a CFR member, but Sullivan has been a Senior Fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace (a think tank “promoting active international engagement by the United States”) and a member of the US German Marshall Fund’s “Alliance For Securing Democracy” (a major promoter of the “Russiagate” disinformation campaign to restrain the Trump presidency), both of which are run by senior CFR members.

Most of Biden’s CFR-vetted nominees supported recent US wars against Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen as well as the 2014 regime change in Ukraine. Unsurprisingly, neoconservative Max Boot, the CFR Senior Fellow in National Security Studies and one of the most vocal opponents of the Trump administration, has called Biden’s future cabinet “America’s A-Team”.

Thus, after four years of “populism” and “isolationism”, a Biden presidency will mean the return of the Council on Foreign Relations and the continuation of a tradition of more than 70 years. Indeed, the CFR was founded in 1921 in response to the “trauma of 1920”, when US President Warren Harding and the US Senate turned isolationist and renounced US global leadership after World War I. In 2016, Donald Trump’s “America First” campaign reactivated this 100 year old foreign policy trauma.

Was the 2020 presidential election “stolen”, as some allege? There are certainly indications of significant statistical anomalies in key Democrat-run swing states. Whether these were decisive for the election outcome may be up to courts to decide. At any rate, Joe Biden may well be the first US President known to be involved in international corruption before even entering office.

Why are most US and international media hardly interested in this? Well, why should they?

Indeed.

We observe that the role of the Media is in evolutionary dispute here. Mankind can not evolve further under the yoke of - or rather under the laziness granted by the mass-media. Lying used to be an art, now it isnt even a craft anymore. It is just the only thing left to do for the media to keep alive, the lies arent even being spiked with bits of truth anymore - the vital chemistry has died; all that is left now is wretchedness catering to weakness.

The masses at which the lies are directed are now marching to their graves, and on the way there, they are as of today having their genes altered with all kinds of weird animal dna, securing genetic mutilation for their posterity, in case they arent sterilized by these same injections. In general the occidental ignorant fear of the body allows industries to have the masses act precisely in the most unhealthy ways thinking they are protecting themselves from a virus which has a mortality rate of .2 percent higher than the average flu - using masks which have pores 1000x the size of a virus, but which are efficient in causing all kinds of heart damage.... ah, fuck it. Lets just hear Napoleon on medicine and health and try not to associate too much with the dying herd.

Emerson wrote:Of medicine too [Napoleon] was fond of talking, and with those of its practitioners whom he most esteemed,- with Corvisart at Paris, and with Antonomarchi at St. Helena. "Believe me," he said to the last, "we had better leave off all these remedies: life is a fortress which neither you nor I know any thing about. Why throw obstacles in the way of its defence? Its own means are superior to all the apparatus of your laboratories. Corvisart candidly agreed with me that all your filthy mixtures are good for nothing. Medicine is a collection of uncertain prescriptions, the results of which, taken collectively, are more fatal than useful to mankind. Water, air and cleanliness are the chief articles in my pharmacopoeia.""



A note - none of the facts about mortality rates, inefficiency of masks to counter viruses, danger of staying indoors all the time - are disputed by the people who enforce these idiocies. Scientific agencies of our governments all confirm that the measures are very unhealthy and cause great numbers of deaths. But in order to find that information people would have to stop watching tv and reading their news-websites, and instead go actively looking for facts. A very tiny fraction of the population has a tendency to try to actively find things out, the overwhelming majority truly isnt capable of even trying. And that weakness does indeed deserve to be punished with, well, what is happening to them.

But yeah. Actual sentient humans live under the same regime.
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Re: The People vs The Masses

Postby promethean75 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:09 am

I used to mythologize history too but I finally realized the great ones aren't so great and the bad ones aren't so bad in a modern world where everything is made easier.
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