A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

[Urwrongx1000]

The Marxists are trying to cut off the head. I suggest merely the Left hand (those Marxists).

I fear the whole arm has to come off. The Marxists are dug-in deep in the public Education system.





Why is it only you and I, two of us, seem to realize the gravity of the situation around here...?

It's astonishing how fucked we are, and nobody sees it coming.

[Urwrongx1000]

This "President" imposter is begging for money before even reaching the White House, Jesus Christ!

[promethean75]

We must remain vigilant in the wake of the red scourge, gentlemen. Our nation, our integrity, and our very souls are at stake. The communists must not prevail.

God save the queen!

[Urwrongx1000]

God save the queen!

We already took care of that red scourge

[obsrvr524]

Why is it only you and I, two of us, seem to realize the gravity of the situation around here...?

After you posted that question I have been wondering about that.

I think I am concluding that we two actually believe in the very concept of "gravity of a situation" and that some things are actually seriously important right now - that there are things that are NOT merely a video game that can be restarted. Once the US Constitution gets taken away you don't ever get it back or any actual democracy. We can see and believe that is real and happening right now. Others merely see it all as just another day and distraction from their struggle for more entertainment.

Also we are reductionists - we see the deeper connections and commonalities between issues. That is why I can read you, Anderson, James, and a few others on other boards and instantly understand exactly what was meant. With others I can't do that so easily (such as menu_, MagsJ, and especially Silhouette). That doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong. I just connect dots differently seeing a different picture. And I think that reductionism causes a very short path between what we believe is important and current events that others see as merely a cloudy potential issue not worth the time to think about. Non-reductionists usually don't like "thinking too hard". It is uncomfortable for them, not for us.

I'm not sure that is all there is to it but those seem to be the basics of it.

[Urwrongx1000]

I'm guessing that you and I have a background in History and Civics, and some basic attachment to the soil, unlike most of the others around here.

[obsrvr524]

There seems to be one of those "Catch 22" issues here with everyone - "you have to have it in order to get it". In this case it seems to be an issue of not caring about something because they don't have any confidence in the knowledge which they can't gain because they don't care.

"I'll look at your evidence after you prove to me that your right." - iambiguous

I'll never forget that one. It expresses the core of a problem. They are each interested in only certain identified concerns in their life - their bubble.
iambiguous with his dasein
Silhuoette with his purist form of communism
thinkdr with his book
Ecmandu with his concern for respect.
Fixed Cross with his god-wannabe issues
along with a variety of others merely concerned with their next hit and rambling just to keep occupied.

It's lazy thinking. If not hating it's lazily and discompassionately attacking the threat rather than enthusiastically and compassionately supporting the hope. It's feeding the rot. It's feeding the blindness. It's betrayal and mildly sociopathic. And I think at times psychotic.

None of them feel tempted to go find out what is actually real or what is important to them beyond what they have already chosen - self affirming motivation (into abyss). None of them feel they can do anything about it anyway so they don't even bother to find out what they could do. They are the dead - talking and talking and talking because it gives them the feeling that they are accomplishing something - that they are actually alive and that someone is listening. It seems a self-initiated fruitless therapy.

I was talking before about maybe why that is true - they can't see the connection of the dots relative to their entertainment (it's easier for reductionists).

And I see all of that as merely a part of the war. Westerners have been mentally poisoned - Sun Tsu strategy. Additionally with Satanism - uniting people against each other - Jewish Left strategy. Both constitute "The Devil". Which is why I keep saying "The Devil vs Donald Trump".

Keeping people misguided and blind to their own true concerns is the whole point in ensuring that they cannot resist with any substantial success. "Keep them blinded by their passions and medications." It is a part of every war for I don't know how long. But clearly China knows very well the importance of it as does the MSM. Why do you think Oregon and Washington states are opening opium dens - keep the people occupied and dying in their own filth - "We aren't to blame - they did it to themselves".

How can brainwashed and poisoned losers ever be inspired to win?

Someone should have asked that one of James. Maybe he already answered that and I just haven't got that far yet.

I know one thing though - it isn't by telling them they are wrong. That only works AFTER they have gained respect - or even better admiration - just ask Ecmandu. That is what I thought when I first saw your moniker "UrWrongx1000". I thought "well that guy isn't going to convince anyone of anything".

I'm sure James had some metaphorical solution to that issue - maybe his "Impedance Matching" thing. I just haven't had time to read and decode all of that stuff.

[obsrvr524]

Did anyone else notice -

Sen Chuck Schumer -

Did he just make a Freudian Biden slip -
"Now we change Georgia then we change the World!"

Then quickly changed to -
"Now we take Georgia then we change America!"

But even more interesting and perhaps telling is that ALL media, socialist and conservative, afterward cut out his first remark - "~~the World"

The remark was very Hitlarian and socialist. It presented a perfect opportunity for the more conservative media to display the leftist socialist communist agenda. Yet they didn't do it and even was complicit in hiding the remark.

Why?

[Urwrongx1000]

The Commies aren't hiding it anymore.

[promethean75]

That's because there are no commies, man. All these evil entities trying to take over the world are some garden variety of capitalist.

And to watch y'all go on and on about this 'CCP', when these niggas never was communist or even close to it.

Now imma tell you what to expect. Being that these American liberal politicians are all social democrats, what you will think you are seeing when the biden admin goes to work, is a leftist political reform in government. But it won't be. It'll resemble state capitalism far more than communism.

It's because you'd be seeing such things as minimum wage increase and socialized medicine, that you'd start thinking communism. But those attributes are not the distinguishing features of the marxist model. The one thing that has to absolutely happen in order for the system to be characterized as marxist, is the corporatization of all the modes of production.

Because this hasn't yet really happened, its unclear how it would happen. But we know when we don't see a marxist state... and we sure as shit haven't seen one yet.

You guys are hunting snipes, bro. (and you wonder why i'ont fuck witch y'all anymore. Y'all niggas ain't talkin bout nuthin.)

[promethean75]

Imma tell you something else too. You guysis so far behind y'all ain't seeing the real problem... like the fundamental problem that's goes all the way back to Plato with his state apparatus and guardian class and all that stuff.

Even if you fully corporatized the global economy, you'd still have divisions, committees, counsels, soviets, syndicates - whatever the individual cell might be called - that would exercise their judicial power in accepting policy that favored them, and rejecting policy that did not.

This is why the strangest thing never before tried must happen in government... once it's set up (if it's set up). There would have to be a horizontal relationship between these entities so that each got to determine legislation for the other, but not itself (so to prevent that biased decision making).

It would be like a rhizomic mobius loop. Branches everywhere and way beyond the simple 'executive-judicial-legislative' model we have in the west. I dont even know how to explain the dynamics of this system other than that individuals will have much more direct control over decisions and will be making important decisions about very many things. It is critically important that the world be brought out of the intellectual famine that capitalism has indirectly caused, and everyone be educated.

Uh oh see? The first thing that crossed Urwrong's mind just then was 'omg indoctrination... i told you!!'

What a putz.

[promethean75]

No you dont understand. I have four planets in aquarius. That's why I'm always talking about space colonization and spandex wearing intergalactic marxists. I know what the future is people, and nothing you say is gonna stop this train from a'comin.

[obsrvr524]

Just as the global war has been (and is expected to remain) a "soft war" avoiding military, Los Angeles CA has now declared a "Soft Marshal Law". Citizens not allowed to walk outdoors, ride bikes, or any wheeled vehicles - "Stay in your home - COVID" - indefinitely.

The takeover attempt continues.

Or is it that behind the scenes, they have already capitulated and just keep it under wraps to avoid rioting? Perhaps that is why James said that it is already over.

[d0rkyd00d]

If Russia was the "overt" threat over the past three or four decades, then China was the covert threat.

I kind of view China as analogous to inflation, in that over the course of four decades, they subtly ate away at our wealth by stealing intellectual property and offering means of production at slave wages. Maybe it's not obvious on a day-to-day basis, but one day you go to buy a gallon of milk and it costs $10 a fucking gallon and everything is made in China with lead.