A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

For discussions of culture, politics, economics, sociology, law, business and any other topic that falls under the social science remit.

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:56 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:The Marxists are trying to cut off the head. I suggest merely the Left hand (those Marxists).

I fear the whole arm has to come off. The Marxists are dug-in deep in the public Education system.





Why is it only you and I, two of us, seem to realize the gravity of the situation around here...?

It's astonishing how fucked we are, and nobody sees it coming.
Urwrongx1000
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4734
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:12 am

This "President" imposter is begging for money before even reaching the White House, Jesus Christ!

Urwrongx1000
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4734
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby promethean75 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:22 am

We must remain vigilant in the wake of the red scourge, gentlemen. Our nation, our integrity, and our very souls are at stake. The communists must not prevail.

God save the queen!
promethean75
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4166
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:26 am

promethean75 wrote:God save the queen!

We already took care of that red scourge
Urwrongx1000
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4734
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:56 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Why is it only you and I, two of us, seem to realize the gravity of the situation around here...?

After you posted that question I have been wondering about that.

I think I am concluding that we two actually believe in the very concept of "gravity of a situation" and that some things are actually seriously important right now - that there are things that are NOT merely a video game that can be restarted. Once the US Constitution gets taken away you don't ever get it back or any actual democracy. We can see and believe that is real and happening right now. Others merely see it all as just another day and distraction from their struggle for more entertainment.

Also we are reductionists - we see the deeper connections and commonalities between issues. That is why I can read you, Anderson, James, and a few others on other boards and instantly understand exactly what was meant. With others I can't do that so easily (such as menu_, MagsJ, and especially Silhouette). That doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong. I just connect dots differently seeing a different picture. And I think that reductionism causes a very short path between what we believe is important and current events that others see as merely a cloudy potential issue not worth the time to think about. Non-reductionists usually don't like "thinking too hard". It is uncomfortable for them, not for us.

I'm not sure that is all there is to it but those seem to be the basics of it.
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:54 pm

I'm guessing that you and I have a background in History and Civics, and some basic attachment to the soil, unlike most of the others around here.
Urwrongx1000
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4734
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:13 pm

There seems to be one of those "Catch 22" issues here with everyone - "you have to have it in order to get it". In this case it seems to be an issue of not caring about something because they don't have any confidence in the knowledge which they can't gain because they don't care.

"I'll look at your evidence after you prove to me that your right." - iambiguous

I'll never forget that one. It expresses the core of a problem. They are each interested in only certain identified concerns in their life - their bubble.
iambiguous with his dasein
Silhuoette with his purist form of communism
thinkdr with his book
Ecmandu with his concern for respect.
Fixed Cross with his god-wannabe issues
along with a variety of others merely concerned with their next hit and rambling just to keep occupied.

It's lazy thinking. If not hating it's lazily and discompassionately attacking the threat rather than enthusiastically and compassionately supporting the hope. It's feeding the rot. It's feeding the blindness. It's betrayal and mildly sociopathic. And I think at times psychotic.

None of them feel tempted to go find out what is actually real or what is important to them beyond what they have already chosen - self affirming motivation (into abyss). None of them feel they can do anything about it anyway so they don't even bother to find out what they could do. They are the dead - talking and talking and talking because it gives them the feeling that they are accomplishing something - that they are actually alive and that someone is listening. It seems a self-initiated fruitless therapy.

I was talking before about maybe why that is true - they can't see the connection of the dots relative to their entertainment (it's easier for reductionists).

And I see all of that as merely a part of the war. Westerners have been mentally poisoned - Sun Tsu strategy. Additionally with Satanism - uniting people against each other - Jewish Left strategy. Both constitute "The Devil". Which is why I keep saying "The Devil vs Donald Trump".

Keeping people misguided and blind to their own true concerns is the whole point in ensuring that they cannot resist with any substantial success. "Keep them blinded by their passions and medications." It is a part of every war for I don't know how long. But clearly China knows very well the importance of it as does the MSM. Why do you think Oregon and Washington states are opening opium dens - keep the people occupied and dying in their own filth - "We aren't to blame - they did it to themselves".

How can brainwashed and poisoned losers ever be inspired to win?

Someone should have asked that one of James. Maybe he already answered that and I just haven't got that far yet.

I know one thing though - it isn't by telling them they are wrong. That only works AFTER they have gained respect - or even better admiration - just ask Ecmandu. That is what I thought when I first saw your moniker "UrWrongx1000". I thought "well that guy isn't going to convince anyone of anything". :D

I'm sure James had some metaphorical solution to that issue - maybe his "Impedance Matching" thing. I just haven't had time to read and decode all of that stuff.
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:35 pm

Did anyone else notice -

Sen Chuck Schumer -

Did he just make a Freudian Biden slip -
"Now we change Georgia then we change the World!"

Then quickly changed to -
"Now we take Georgia then we change America!"

But even more interesting and perhaps telling is that ALL media, socialist and conservative, afterward cut out his first remark - "~~the World"

The remark was very Hitlarian and socialist. It presented a perfect opportunity for the more conservative media to display the leftist socialist communist agenda. Yet they didn't do it and even was complicit in hiding the remark.

Why?
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:48 am

The Commies aren't hiding it anymore.
Urwrongx1000
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4734
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby promethean75 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:39 pm

That's because there are no commies, man. All these evil entities trying to take over the world are some garden variety of capitalist.

And to watch y'all go on and on about this 'CCP', when these niggas never was communist or even close to it.

Now imma tell you what to expect. Being that these American liberal politicians are all social democrats, what you will think you are seeing when the biden admin goes to work, is a leftist political reform in government. But it won't be. It'll resemble state capitalism far more than communism.

It's because you'd be seeing such things as minimum wage increase and socialized medicine, that you'd start thinking communism. But those attributes are not the distinguishing features of the marxist model. The one thing that has to absolutely happen in order for the system to be characterized as marxist, is the corporatization of all the modes of production.

Because this hasn't yet really happened, its unclear how it would happen. But we know when we don't see a marxist state... and we sure as shit haven't seen one yet.

You guys are hunting snipes, bro. (and you wonder why i'ont fuck witch y'all anymore. Y'all niggas ain't talkin bout nuthin.)
promethean75
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4166
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby promethean75 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:12 pm

Imma tell you something else too. You guysis so far behind y'all ain't seeing the real problem... like the fundamental problem that's goes all the way back to Plato with his state apparatus and guardian class and all that stuff.

Even if you fully corporatized the global economy, you'd still have divisions, committees, counsels, soviets, syndicates - whatever the individual cell might be called - that would exercise their judicial power in accepting policy that favored them, and rejecting policy that did not.

This is why the strangest thing never before tried must happen in government... once it's set up (if it's set up). There would have to be a horizontal relationship between these entities so that each got to determine legislation for the other, but not itself (so to prevent that biased decision making).

It would be like a rhizomic mobius loop. Branches everywhere and way beyond the simple 'executive-judicial-legislative' model we have in the west. I dont even know how to explain the dynamics of this system other than that individuals will have much more direct control over decisions and will be making important decisions about very many things. It is critically important that the world be brought out of the intellectual famine that capitalism has indirectly caused, and everyone be educated.

Uh oh see? The first thing that crossed Urwrong's mind just then was 'omg indoctrination... i told you!!'

What a putz.
promethean75
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4166
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby promethean75 » Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:22 pm

No you dont understand. I have four planets in aquarius. That's why I'm always talking about space colonization and spandex wearing intergalactic marxists. I know what the future is people, and nothing you say is gonna stop this train from a'comin.
promethean75
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4166
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:24 pm

Just as the global war has been (and is expected to remain) a "soft war" avoiding military, Los Angeles CA has now declared a "Soft Marshal Law". Citizens not allowed to walk outdoors, ride bikes, or any wheeled vehicles - "Stay in your home - COVID" - indefinitely.

The takeover attempt continues.

Or is it that behind the scenes, they have already capitulated and just keep it under wraps to avoid rioting? Perhaps that is why James said that it is already over.
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby d0rkyd00d » Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:34 pm

If Russia was the "overt" threat over the past three or four decades, then China was the covert threat.

I kind of view China as analogous to inflation, in that over the course of four decades, they subtly ate away at our wealth by stealing intellectual property and offering means of production at slave wages. Maybe it's not obvious on a day-to-day basis, but one day you go to buy a gallon of milk and it costs $10 a fucking gallon and everything is made in China with lead.
"So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men." -Voltaire

"If an opinion contrary to your own makes you angry, that is a sign that you are subconsciously aware of having no good reason for thinking as you do."
-Bertrand Russell
d0rkyd00d
Philosopher
 
Posts: 3058
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:37 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:54 am

-
Listen to this one carefully. This is the Kraken Planet Killer -
-

"Used all around the world for 10-15 years"
"They threaten people's lives and children"
"Both Dems and Reps involved"
"They are all playing the game"
"Election insurance"
"Evidence revealing ballots coming from China and Mexico"
"Hillary did the same thing to Sanders"
"President Trump has the Constitutional authority to stop this right now"
"Never a free election again"
"This not about President Trump"
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:09 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:-
Listen to this one carefully. This is the Kraken Planet Killer -
-

"Used all around the world for 10-15 years"
"They threaten people's lives and children"
"Both Dems and Reps involved"
"They are all playing the game"
"Election insurance"
"Evidence revealing ballots coming from China and Mexico"
"Hillary did the same thing to Sanders"
"President Trump has the Constitutional authority to stop this right now"
"Never a free election again"
"This not about President Trump"

If even 1/10th of what she says is true, this is Treason.
Urwrongx1000
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4734
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby d0rkyd00d » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:26 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:-
Listen to this one carefully. This is the Kraken Planet Killer -
-

"Used all around the world for 10-15 years"
"They threaten people's lives and children"
"Both Dems and Reps involved"
"They are all playing the game"
"Election insurance"
"Evidence revealing ballots coming from China and Mexico"
"Hillary did the same thing to Sanders"
"President Trump has the Constitutional authority to stop this right now"
"Never a free election again"
"This not about President Trump"

If even 1/10th of what she says is true, this is Treason.


Fortunately, only 1/11th of this is true.
"So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men." -Voltaire

"If an opinion contrary to your own makes you angry, that is a sign that you are subconsciously aware of having no good reason for thinking as you do."
-Bertrand Russell
d0rkyd00d
Philosopher
 
Posts: 3058
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:37 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:31 pm

Are you going to explain that denial?
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:54 am

It appears to me that the US is behaving as if there has been a publicly secret treaty with or surrender to a globalist entity, China, or EU. And that reminded me of the mysterious Brooklyn Bridge "white flag" incident from 2014. The Brooklyn Bridge incident has been given a cover story, but not one that seems entirely laudable. Could it be that those who had the greatest secret power in the US actuality secretly surrendered the US to another entity? The flags being a signal to their adversary? The public not allowed to know. Most politicians, being not included in the inner circle, left to just keep struggling as their US roots were already cut.

That would explain the equally mysterious lack of action and extraordinary attempts to hide the obvious subversion of the US. Is it that they knew that they had to give up or face dire consequences, perhaps from China or the U.N. or some hidden world order? The US isn't even trying to defend itself against certain death. When SCOTUS refuses to defend the US Constitution in the face of certain loss of the republic (which has now happened), how can anyone believe there isn't something far more serious and insidious going on than merely political activism?

Why else would recent US Presidents, US intelligence agencies, US Senators, US "deep state", Israel and the Five Eyes be cooperating with China to secretly and utterly destroy the US culture entirely?

This could also suggest what it was that James knew back in 2016 to allow his predictions and him avoidance of politics.
Last edited by obsrvr524 on Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:23 pm

The US Government began selling-out into deep corruption in the 1990s, especially under Clinton and then George W. Bush. Since then, United States has become divided with factions fighting over their own piece of the pie, a cut of the corrupt profits. Now those profits are drying-up fast, and a 'Globalist' elite have overtaken the institutions of control, one-by-one. These liberal-leftists "elites" have no conception or loyalty to America, our Constitution, or our historical impressions of Civic Duty. They have no real loyalty to the United States. Their selling-out of America only exacerbated.

We see this now as USA is dividing into Populism, loyalty to the Masses and Constitution, versus the self-proclaimed social elites and technocrats.


The social-elites have no hesitate or trouble destroying USA, which they are doing knowingly or not. Because when shit hits the fan, and it will soon, then they can get on a private jet and flee to a foreign nation (China).
Urwrongx1000
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4734
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:36 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:The US Government began selling-out into deep corruption in the 1990s, especially under Clinton and then George W. Bush. Since then, United States has become divided with factions fighting over their own piece of the pie, a cut of the corrupt profits. Now those profits are drying-up fast, and a 'Globalist' elite have overtaken the institutions of control, one-by-one. These liberal-leftists "elites" have no conception or loyalty to America, our Constitution, or our historical impressions of Civic Duty. They have no real loyalty to the United States. Their selling-out of America only exacerbated.

We see this now as USA is dividing into Populism, loyalty to the Masses and Constitution, versus the self-proclaimed social elites and technocrats.


The social-elites have no hesitate or trouble destroying USA, which they are doing knowingly or not. Because when shit hits the fan, and it will soon, then they can get on a private jet and flee to a foreign nation (China).

All of that has been the working narrative in the forefront. But to me it seems more than just that. Why would Israel participate? What is Sen Chuck Schumer going to get out of a decimated USA? Or all of those Jewish congressmen?

The decimation of the economy of New York and California can't be merely the elite wanting to cash in. They are being run by actual communists. Washington State by actual Marxists. George Soros and the CCP put most of those people in place along with a great many more. What does Soros get out of a decimated USA? Who is he working for? Why has the US intelligence agencies allowed him so much influence? The deep state is going to get rich? Not likely. Why has William Barr (a serious constitutional scholar) participated?

It just feels like there has to be more to this.
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:49 pm

Jews are forever loyal to Israel, never the nations they reside in. That's political common sense.
Urwrongx1000
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4734
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:11 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Jews are forever loyal to Israel, never the nations they reside in. That's political common sense.

The whole world knows that. But Mr Trump especially has done more for Israel than anyone. How are they benefiting Israel by helping to destroy the US? How is the US intelligence complex benefiting? The deep state would have been job secure without the CCP or world order involved. And all of this was going on before Mr Trump. Mr Trump just rumbled their plans that had been going on for a long time.
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:13 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:The whole world knows that. But Mr Trump especially has done more for Israel than anyone. How are they benefiting Israel by helping to destroy the US? How is the US intelligence complex benefiting? The deep state would have been job secure without the CCP or world order involved. And all of this was going on before Mr Trump. Mr Trump just rumbled their plans that had been going on for a long time.

I believe Jews are playing USA against China to suit their own political and business interests. That's why there are Jews on the political left and right, democrats and republicans. They basically own the MSM, which they overplayed their hand. People are revolting against the MSM, which is one of the most productive outcomes of 2020, for all its faults.
Urwrongx1000
Philosopher
 
Posts: 4734
Joined: Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:10 pm

Re: A World at War - Part 3 - Rise of China

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:30 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:
obsrvr524 wrote:The whole world knows that. But Mr Trump especially has done more for Israel than anyone. How are they benefiting Israel by helping to destroy the US? How is the US intelligence complex benefiting? The deep state would have been job secure without the CCP or world order involved. And all of this was going on before Mr Trump. Mr Trump just rumbled their plans that had been going on for a long time.

I believe Jews are playing USA against China to suit their own political and business interests. That's why there are Jews on the political left and right, democrats and republicans. They basically own the MSM, which they overplayed their hand. People are revolting against the MSM, which is one of the most productive outcomes of 2020, for all its faults.

I agree with all of that except perhaps China has even more influence (and literal ownership) of MSM than Israel. But there is a much bigger issue -

Think about the nuclear situation. China and Russia are helping Iran to gain nuclear weaponry. Mr Trump is the only thing standing in their way. With merely a small limited nuclear capability, Iran could totally wipe Israel off the map - totally.

Is Israel so insane as to actually help Iran get nuclear capability? The few remaining Jews spread out in the US would get deep sympathy (something Israel always relies on) but with China running the US - ? Is there some kind of sustainable treaty between China, Russia, and Israel? That doesn't seem possible. But Israel is behaving as if there is one. What could that agreement be? World Order? With Israel completely gone?

Something just isn't adding up.
Member of The Coalition of Truth - member #1

              You have been observed.
    Though often tempted to encourage a dog to distinguish color I refuse to argue with him about it
obsrvr524
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2344
Joined: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:03 am

PreviousNext

Return to Society, Government, and Economics



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Majestic-12 [Bot]