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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:54 pm

Politics is the State today.
Religion is the State yesterday.
Science Fiction is the State tomorrow.
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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby obsrvr524 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:11 pm

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Politics is the State today.
Religion is the State yesterday.
Science Fiction is the State tomorrow.

That seems to be the essential truth of it.

So what does it mean to separate church from state - merely old from new?

"In the USA you are allowed to believe any old thing you want but you are not allowed to make or enforce any laws based on it. The state can only dictate based on new ideologies."

An interesting thought by itself.
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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:36 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
Urwrongx1000 wrote:Politics is the State today.
Religion is the State yesterday.
Science Fiction is the State tomorrow.

That seems to be the essential truth of it.

So what does it mean to separate church from state - merely old from new?

"In the USA you are allowed to believe any old thing you want but you are not allowed to make or enforce any laws based on it. The state can only dictate based on new ideologies."

An interesting thought by itself.

Yeah, I think so. Religions seem focused on maintaining a political power that they had won years, decades, centuries, or even millenniums ago (like Catholicism).
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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby MagsJ » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:14 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Religions seem focused on maintaining a political power that they had won years, decades, centuries, or even millenniums ago (like Catholicism).

..and other factions don’t? lol.. stop begging other people’s power and find your own.
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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:45 am

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Yeah, I think so. Religions seem focused on maintaining a political power that they had won years, decades, centuries, or even millenniums ago (like Catholicism).

So imagine many years from now when our current ideologies are the Old - Democracy, Socialism, Communism, and so on. Politics will be restricted to only some New, not yet discovered ideology?

And that brings me back into my obsession about James.

James seemed to have not only predicted what we are currently politically and medically facing, but also that a new ideology/religion is to spring up. That alone is impressive but not as concerning as the fact that he actually went so far as to lay out what it is going to be.

More than a decade ago, James answered a question about global domination with, "something is going to happen that no one expected". I doubt anyone paid attention to that but now I'm thinking that he was talking about Mr Trump and the global restoration of relatively independent nations (which he referenced on this board). He warned in a response years ago, "Be careful. It only takes one of my kind". And indeed both James and Mr Trump are analytical reductionist problem solvers - reducing everything down to the simple basic requirements for solving the problem - and not being shy about saying it and pursuing it despite being hated by just about everyone (such people stand out anywhere they go. I should know, having to observe and categorize the more typical internet mouth-breathers for years).

Much later during Mr Trump's campaign, he said that even though Mr Trump would win, they wouldn't give it to him - and they have certainly tried not to - and are still trying not to claiming that he isn't the "real President" while defying him at every turn.

He spoke of intelligence matters, obfuscation techniques, and the way the Hebrews and Chinese think (Torah, I Ching, and Taoism - "Obfuscation and Extortion" - exactly exactly exactly what has been going on internationally for years by the CCP) and warned of the medical world being the enemy - COVID?

Who in the hell was this guy? And how could he know this shit? He was asked that by several people but never really gave an answer. Interestingly he gained most of his reputation points (where they do that) by the Jewish members (On the Catholic Apologist board actually accused of being "a Jew" to which he responded, "I am NotA - None of the Above").

And going beyond Jesus, Revelations, and Nostradamus, he explained what Heaven actually is like (something they had refused to do) - "a harmonious dance, a waltz". And note that "peace in the Middle East" is not about everyone standing around idly grinning at their navel but rather actively trading and conversing in harmony - "not stagnate, boring peace" as he put it - "Momentus harmony within and harmony without".

He stated that a new religion (political ideology) would arise to take the place of the major religions of today. He did that on this board. And he didn't just stop there (anyone could have thrown that out there). Although he expressed doubt that anything human or even organic life would continue to exist, he actually spelled out a specific governing form that will take place by the remaining machines if not by people - his SAM co-op and what it grows into - the newer-new religion/ideology/politics of tomorrow's tomorrow?

James seemed to have an answer to every philosophical and science mystery. The only thing that I can find missing besides any political discussion (a serious disappointment to me personally other than to reveal about 10 years ago that Mr Obama was treasonous which is now turning out to be true too - who was he to be able to know that back then?) are the exact dates but that seems to be the way for such people.

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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby MagsJ » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:47 am

Lol

You Yanks and your politics is something else.. and your ignorance of others, even more-so.
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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby obsrvr524 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:53 am

MagsJ wrote:Lol

You Yanks and your politics is something else.. and your ignorance of others, even more-so.

Referring to?
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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:39 am

MagsJ wrote:..and other factions don’t? lol.. stop begging other people’s power and find your own.

As if I don't have my own?
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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby Urwrongx1000 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:43 am

obsrvr524 wrote:So imagine many years from now when our current ideologies are the Old - Democracy, Socialism, Communism, and so on. Politics will be restricted to only some New, not yet discovered ideology?

And that brings me back into my obsession about James.

James seemed to have not only predicted what we are currently politically and medically facing, but also that a new ideology/religion is to spring up. That alone is impressive but not as concerning as the fact that he actually went so far as to lay out what it is going to be.

More than a decade ago, James answered a question about global domination with, "something is going to happen that no one expected". I doubt anyone paid attention to that but now I'm thinking that he was talking about Mr Trump and the global restoration of relatively independent nations (which he referenced on this board). He warned in a response years ago, "Be careful. It only takes one of my kind". And indeed both James and Mr Trump are analytical reductionist problem solvers - reducing everything down to the simple basic requirements for solving the problem - and not being shy about saying it and pursuing it despite being hated by just about everyone (such people stand out anywhere they go. I should know, having to observe and categorize the more typical internet mouth-breathers for years).

Much later during Mr Trump's campaign, he said that even though Mr Trump would win, they wouldn't give it to him - and they have certainly tried not to - and are still trying not to claiming that he isn't the "real President" while defying him at every turn.

He spoke of intelligence matters, obfuscation techniques, and the way the Hebrews and Chinese think (Torah, I Ching, and Taoism - "Obfuscation and Extortion" - exactly exactly exactly what has been going on internationally for years by the CCP) and warned of the medical world being the enemy - COVID?

Who in the hell was this guy? And how could he know this shit? He was asked that by several people but never really gave an answer. Interestingly he gained most of his reputation points (where they do that) by the Jewish members (On the Catholic Apologist board actually accused of being "a Jew" to which he responded, "I am NotA - None of the Above").

And going beyond Jesus, Revelations, and Nostradamus, he explained what Heaven actually is like (something they had refused to do) - "a harmonious dance, a waltz". And note that "peace in the Middle East" is not about everyone standing around idly grinning at their navel but rather actively trading and conversing in harmony - "not stagnate, boring peace" as he put it - "Momentus harmony within and harmony without".

He stated that a new religion (political ideology) would arise to take the place of the major religions of today. He did that on this board. And he didn't just stop there (anyone could have thrown that out there). Although he expressed doubt that anything human or even organic life would continue to exist, he actually spelled out a specific governing form that will take place by the remaining machines if not by people - his SAM co-op and what it grows into - the newer-new religion/ideology/politics of tomorrow's tomorrow?

James seemed to have an answer to every philosophical and science mystery. The only thing that I can find missing besides any political discussion (a serious disappointment to me personally other than to reveal about 10 years ago that Mr Obama was treasonous which is now turning out to be true too - who was he to be able to know that back then?) are the exact dates but that seems to be the way for such people.

I'm still trying to put it all together - questions questions, questions.

James' absence is definitely noticeable. I can't say I've followed him as closely as you and others. Although I agreed with many of his religious and political insights.

As for what comes next, I do predict the rise and spread of some 'new' religious creed, maybe Neo-Christianity, or something else. Because when people become desperate, they historically turn to religion/Faith.
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Re: Politics vs Religion

Postby MagsJ » Mon Oct 19, 2020 2:56 am

All subsequent posts to mine, have been noted..
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