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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:13 pm

Good old, fresh old, liberty. Aint nothing like it.

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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby phoneutria » Thu Jan 23, 2020 10:51 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:What organsm is not self-serving, Phoneutria?

Are you not, is your husband not?
Is your whole family not?
Your animals?

Why should businessmen be exempt... why should Americans be exempt?

Thats leftist thinking pur-sang; I should be self-serving but ... certain others should not.

But thats the genius of the Constitution. It formalizes self-serving as an absolute (which in nature it is) and thereby brings about the notion of absolute compromise, and with that, liberty.


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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:55 pm

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...

THAT'S how politicians get you.

Dirty no good rotten fucking bastards.

You don't even believe politicians do this. You just prefer when they keep up the charade.

A president is no such thing. He is a representative of his people and their interests.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:37 am

Ir will have escaped many what Parodites' main contribution was: to place Plato in the esoteric realm where he belongs and rip him out of political structures, where he has done more damage than can be calculated.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:47 am

Anyway, now it is me that has no interest in further debate and bow out. For similar reasons as you expressed.

Nandayoo.

I will do war on men, but not on girls. Like, not on women, though this sounds to me redundant enough to be silly to say, "won't make war on women."

Take all the offence you want, I don't even care.

It was the ol Fixed Cross that got us into this mess. Shoulda let P speak for himself.

You can be all the right you want, but if you're lashing out at girls you're a spaz.

Peace out
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby phoneutria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:49 am

I'm being white-knighted in 2020.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby phoneutria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:52 am

Let me be fair to you though, pedro.
None of them would say any of that to my face. None.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:56 am

It's all aesthetic Phon. Nothing moral or feminist about it. It's what FC calls my postmodernism.

Funny to be accused of white knighting when I'm pretty sure my opinions fit under "rancidly reactionary misoginy."

And also, you know, my pleasure. Have some mercy on us when you take over the world from the testosteroneless maggots surrenderring it to you.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:15 am

Right because, a girl isn't responsible for her actions. She's not actually a person. Just an ornament for Pedro to romance.

All this is very much below me. Below my contempt.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:18 am

Phoneutria please. You came into a guys thread and started slinging insults about him and his mother, because you felt his sentences were too long. It was fucking sickening.

You would never say anything of that to his face. I gave you back a liiiiiiiitle bit of what you dealt out. We all know what would have happened irl if you pulled that shit.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:21 am

Pedro, you're very far from being virtuous.

You do not honour women in the least by honouring them simply because they're female. If there is anything women do not respect its that kind of behaviour.
But, they'll tell you how good of a friend you are.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:24 am

But yeah, the great white knight. Its so beautiful I'm practically blubbering.

It is true that, by now, Phoneutria understands more of any points being made here than you do. You know why? Because I was tough on her and she didn't run away into the excuses you kept trying to hand her. Like, her being a woman, thus not having to listen to reason, not having to uphold standards....

Women aren't actually as spineless as all that.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby phoneutria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:26 am

Fixed Cross wrote:Phoneutria please. You came into a guys thread and started slinging insults about him and his mother, because you felt his sentences were too long. It was fucking sickening.

You would never say anything of that to his face. I gave you back a liiiiiiiitle bit of what you dealt out. We all know what would have happened irl if you pulled that shit.


Read the first two pages again. This is not at all what happened.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:27 am

Good ol' Good vs Evil, Light vs Darkness shit going on around here, huh?
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby phoneutria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:31 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:It's all aesthetic Phon. Nothing moral or feminist about it. It's what FC calls my postmodernism.

Funny to be accused of white knighting when I'm pretty sure my opinions fit under "rancidly reactionary misoginy."

And also, you know, my pleasure. Have some mercy on us when you take over the world from the testosteroneless maggots surrenderring it to you.


You had a good mother, is what it tells me.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:32 am

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That I did.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:32 am

I envy the shit out of your children, if you have them or if you ever do.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:34 am

phoneutria wrote:
Fixed Cross wrote:Great, so people on a philosophy site have now overtly turned against writing and reading. I saw something like this coming but to witness it is really... boring.

Urwrongx1000 wrote:Your arguments are all over the place. Don't blame me for your lack of cohesion.

Don't kid yourself, you wouldnt know what an argument is, let alone how to work through one. Like the other socialists who came in barking and went away with their tails between their legs, you weren't even able to read the posts and are just seeking excuses to make to yourself for that.

You, Kropotkin, Tab, promethean, since I invited Parodites here to talk about memes, and he went out of his way to say some more stuff, people that before seemed to have pretty big intellectual egos, now just basically come out and say they don't like or trust sentences with a lot of words in them. Its like Maos list of 9 with you guys, where the intellectuals were listed as the lowest specimens.

Now you post some video to, in your mind, shame a man for being a good and thorough writer, because you actually take pride in being half illiterate and in not knowing what the federal government is. Mao for the win.

Keep virtue-signalling. Peace.



For the record, my video was pertinent to the subject in the OP.

Regarding long text, in my opinion the problem with Parodites writing is not that it is long. It is that it's absolutely monolithic.

Please note that I am not at all criticizing the content of the text.

In my own experience in writing (I was at a point in my life an academic), I have learned that in order to write well, you must be prepared to throw away 50-80% of what you write in order to create clear, coherent, and strong material. If you don't, you run the risk of drowning the crux of your thought in your own verboseness.
How do you even go about trimming your writing when the whole thing is a block of text without a single paragraph?
Paragraphs are free, Parodites! It costs nothing to use them!

Admittedly I have prejudice about this as well, though in my defense I'll say it is based on statistics.
If a person can't break their text into paragraphs, it is possible that they can't break their thoughts into paragraphs, and that signals a difficulty in organizing thoughts in a logical sequence.
Can't know that without reading, of course, but if it looks dense both in content and structure, I'll skip it.
I'd rather save my dense reading time for published work, which has already gone through the scrutiny of editing, than to spend it on a forum and at the end of parsing the whole mess to find that the dude is a quack and it was a waste of time. Time is precious.

Parodites, dude, I'm only typing this out because I think it can benefit you.
If you think I can help you with editing, let me know.



Fair enough you weren't instantly insulting his mother. But ... you were being radically offensive, and I still literally get nauseous reading this, this whole "statistics and my schoolteacher and android toll me I cant take a long, well written, complex text seriously" - it is, to me, a very grave dishonouring of the mind.

I really mean that.

I do not think I was excessively hard on you at all.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby phoneutria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:47 am

Fixed Cross wrote:But yeah, the great white knight. Its so beautiful I'm practically blubbering.

It is true that, by now, Phoneutria understands more of any points being made here than you do. You know why? Because I was tough on her and she didn't run away into the excuses you kept trying to hand her. Like, her being a woman, thus not having to listen to reason, not having to uphold standards....

Women aren't actually as spineless as all that.


lol, fixed, the great teacher
If he didn't push me so hard
Where would I ever be
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:50 am

Yes yes, be ungrateful. Or... feign it for da homies.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby phoneutria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:09 am

I have to laugh because you are so vain.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Fixed Cross » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:20 am

Yes, me too.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby phoneutria » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:45 am

Nice for a thread that started so contentious to end with a good belly laugh.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Parodites » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:06 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Ir will have escaped many what Parodites' main contribution was: to place Plato in the esoteric realm where he belongs and rip him out of political structures, where he has done more damage than can be calculated.


But then again, there are many things that have been misappropriated to the realm of the political. That is what politics is now, a game of misappropriating things to politics. Things like gay marriage or, to go back to the main point of the thread- drug use; these aren't even political discussions. They are simple personal liberties here that have been obfuscated and turned into political squabbles to distract everyone from the actual politics.
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Re: A point of constitutional philosophy: implicit protectio

Postby Parodites » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:09 pm

"Me, I couldn't care less about how lenghty the paragraphs are in regard to articulating one's philosophical assessment of implicit constitutional protections. Instead, my complaint revolves around how those paragraphs can go on and on and on as though the actual "human condition" did not exist at all. Satyr in particular is obsessed with exploring all of this in intellectual contraptions. "

It doesn't, the human condition: when we are discussing the philosophy of law or actual legal matters themselves. You might as well include the human condition in a discussion of mathematics as a rationale for allowing your numbers to get fuzzy.
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