Zero_Sum wrote:Gloominary wrote:Of course women are selfish, they put themselves (and their children) first and others second or not at all, just as men are selfish.
Women fantasize about being with handsome, charming and capable men, just as men fantasize about being with charming, beautiful and capable women.
Women look for good protectors and providers, whereas men look for good nurturers.
If a woman winds up with an ugly, broke bloke, it's because she's settling, she doesn't think she can do much better or her bio-clock's ticking, she doesn't have a lot of time left
If a guy loses his job, becomes an alcoholic or otherwise takes a step or two further down the socioeconomic ladder than where he was when she met him, or conversely if she manages to improve herself or run into some money, then there's a good chance she'll leave him for something better, even if they invested a lot in each other (and their kids), and of course the courts are skewed in favor of women, further enticing them.
On the other hand, she may just try to bang some other dude on the side.
Women aren't uniquely selfish in relationships or anything, it's just their selfishness manifests a bit differently.
The trouble isn't women so much as female supremacism, the notion women are somehow more altruistic and capable than men, that men are oppressors, which was sold to men and women by the elite for various reasons, whatever they may be, like divide and conquer, break up the family so as to make us more dependent on the state, like population reduction, like keeping women busy with careers, since much of their traditional work was made easier by machines, like making men docile, tame, henpecked and pussy-whipped, so they won't rise up and defend what's rightfully theirs.
I think the principle reason is the Jew needs to keep this idea women and minorities have been somehow historically held back going, in order for him to justify his leaching off society, so it's impossible to criticize him for it.
As long the white man is full of white male guilt, he'll never rise up and take back what's rightfully his from the Jew and his minions.
It's more than reproduction or children, the fact that women's sexual instinctual impetus is always drawn to men's power, dominance, affluence, and social standing ensures that there will always be human inequality, violence, and conflict. This is why sexual equality is fucking ridiculous because there is no reproductive equality, without reproductive equality there can never be any kind of sexual equality between men and women. Even more interesting is how modern feminism discusses sexual equality yet completely ignores reproductive inequality or how women's sexual reproductive behavior is always predicated on the continuance of male social inequality itself.
I don't think women are much less faithful to men than men women.
Insofar as statistics can be trusted, women initiate about two thirds of divorces, but men commit about two thirds of adulteries.
If we took away women's legal advantages (abolish child and spousal support, etcetera), they'd probably initiate divorce about as often as men, perhaps even less often.
I don't think it's necessary to change or reduce women's status to that of big children or slaves in order to keep them loyal to men.
What I advocate is full legal equality between men and women.
However, once they have a taste of true equality, many of them may prefer to be treated like big children, where they have more positive rights (freedom from poverty and so on), but fewer negative rights (freedom of choice and so forth), where they're under the care or guardianship of men (fathers, brothers and/or husbands, etcetera) and/or the state.
Perhaps we could give women a choice, collectively/democratically or as individuals, whether they want the same rights as men or exchange some negative rights for positive ones, but they shouldn't be given more of both like they are today, nor should they be given fewer of both, like property or slaves.
I'm not a misandrist, but I'm not a misogynist either, women are of course different in some ways, different strengths, weaknesses, needs, but they're not better or worse.