Hebrew Man in the Land of Halloween... "An American Snag"

[Fixed Cross]

I personally believe in many conspiracy theories and I know for a fact many Jews have pulled schemes to further their interest.
I also know for a fact that roughly a thousand times more non-Jews have pulled schemes to further their interest.
You can write a book called "Jewish business practices" and it will cause a moral stampede. Publish the same book as "business practices" and you will be regarded as a very smart man generous for sharing your wisdoms.

What precisely is it that makes Jews an attractive scapegoat?

Lets examine some factors.

We have the Roman narrative that they killed Jesus.
Its not important that Jesus was himself Jew.
Or that the regime which sent him to his death was administrating Roman occupied territory.

We have the more plausible narrative that mr Rothschild pulled a trick on the Bourse of England after Napoleon was defeated.
But this is just a common trick played on the exchange, only at a larger scale. It is bold. One can understand the anger of being played, but not the moral outrage. Not as long as the astronomical majority of wealthy stock players is not Jewish.
A Hebrew man played the strongest hand and won the biggest game.
So they hate on the Hebrews.

Then there is Freud who altered the psyche of the western man so as to become what we are now - self-analysing.
The art impact of this includes the inventor of public relations and desire culture, which led to the American way of life as we've come to see it in the 20th century and which brought the world under American control.
Then theres the man with the formula who allowed us to blow up cities like we're popping balloons.
Again, yeah, bold and pretty smart.
Then there was Spielberg. Of many orders lesser genius than Freud but very crafty, he made the Holocaust into an object of adoration, a sacred moment in our inner space.
Now that was not so smart. And, not so bold. It was an extravagant meekness.
This backfired.
This is what killed it for the Hebrew Man - Schindler's List.
Suddenly the most confronting story of he 20th century was a house-hold Christmas tale.
That should not have been done.
There are many plights as bad as the Holocaust, Caesars campaign in Gaul, to begin with a European example, or the conquest of South and North America, and many more examples. And no one wants to tell those stories at Christmas.
We would probably come to hate the Gauls if they made such stirring motion pictures films about Caesar killing them. One doesn't want to feel pity except if it spurs on an unobstructed charity, of one can do something if one wants to. But to martyrize a culture of men who have shaped the psyche of the West, won world war 2 by disclosing the order of the cosmos and deriving a bomb of that and invented monotheism as well as a bunch of other completely overwhelming triumphs, is .... weak.

It was Spielbergs will to be weak which was un-Hebrew. Reign of kings and gods over the mind of the west came to an end through pure luxury;
the Hebrew man was used to ordeals. There is no more tested man alive. So to suddenly render him a martyr of popular myth, as it were to attempt to reverse the roles of Christianity, thats just not cool, bro.
Plus what was that shower scene. He even allowed the idiocy that Auschwitz wasn't real - an idiocy of gigantic proportions. All of it backfired, and now we, the next generation, have to pick up he broken pieces. Any proper warrior-rabbi line scorns all this weakness on the side of the modern Yid but is unscathed in its web being. As my line actually overcame Auschwitz and several other camps by Odyssean ways, Im morally unscathed. I don't feel a victim. But I do feel dread when all of life is made to be about these camps, of which the gas chambers were among the most merciful aspects.

Finally, we have Israel - the true triumph of the will.

Yeah haters gonna hate. But that is an accomplishment of power and vision man has never before seen, the retrieval of a motherland after three thousand years of working for it.
And then to be accused of ruling the world!

Majestic.

Im saying, and this is really Pezer's insight, that you cant first inflict Disney on people and then by the same devices give them Auschwitz.
People can be sympathetic with you but then don't need to be pervaded with you as the sad part of their own soul.

They're bound to go looking for reasons why you might be so sad (which in realty you are not) and look for crimes you committed, and use these with extreme prejudice to rid themselves of the misplaced guilt inflicted on them.

Should have had more pity on them - realize they're not Europeans, Germans but innocents, Americans. They take that shit to heart.

The Hebrew Man as World Shaper should have been more delicate.

[Fixed Cross]

Something magnanimous has to be done. Despite the hatred, or rather because of it - standing against it like say stands to night - giving it meaning.
A magnanimous Hebrew gesture to simply acknowledge the others frustrations, without admitting to any guilt one doesn't feel; an act of sympathy. Not pity, that would leave a very wrong blue print for a gift.
But it is time to overrule Spielberg and give the world another serious piece of magic, one of those pieces that might make you afraid, but not ashamed.

And of course, it was Spielbergs good capitalistic right to make this movie. No one was forced to go see it. And he did try his best to be serious - but he is an entertainer, he was used to dealing with light hearted audiences. America was so delicate in its moral sensibilities, so extremely puritan - and it still is, I suppose, in all directions as it goes -
Because you cant really compare these present antisemites of the US to nazis. Their personalities are very different, they are Americans. Its not like they're necessarily out for blood, but they're genuinely poor compared to what they've been shown of the world. They either need someone to blame, and they cant very well blame practical economics of depleting Earth because thats a bit tough to address, especially since the cause has been coopted so vigorously by the actual crazy people who being, if you ask me, to no tribe or country or culture except a general foam of hysteria which has risen due to all the access we have to each other by lightspeed across the world.
It seems to go faster than light by the way.

[Ecmandu]

This is my post on Jewishness, and I'll keep it very simple:

There are non-jews who have suffered WAY MORE than any jewish person can even begin to comprehend. I'm one of them.

I hate the propaganda of the holocaust… yes I know that nazis experimented on you by laying you on a table and dissecting you for several years without anesthesia. You jews have no fucking clue what real suffering is.

And another thing… apologize for your fucking book.

[Fixed Cross]

Im sorry you are sick. Ive always felt sympathy with your will to be king of truth but your ignorance is also astonishing. Maybe the pain is the ignorance.

Maybe "you" should apologize for translating the book half heartedly (like an idiot), using secrets you don't know the meaning of and being clumsy with them. Apologize to yourself, I mean.

[Fixed Cross]

Oh its not my book, by the way.


Once and for all I am not an observing Jew, and I am not accepted as a Jew by Jewish law; my father is Jewish by Jewish law, and yet he was also not raised with the religion and does not speak Hebrew. Just so that people know how much "Jewish Power" I have; none other than my insights and good will toward my ancestors people, without which I would have no soul.


However, having never identified as a Jew or with Jews,after 9-11 and the muslim migrations, whether one is Jewish or not began to have consequences. Too enough people identified me as a Jew, without ever having spoken to me about it or asked me about it.

Only then did I become interested in: what is this Jewishness, what is this weird evil or good but very much relevant lineage?
I used my mind to become acquainted with it and still am becoming acquainted with its after many years, this silly thread of mine is evidence of my absolutely not having gathered a position about it and your idiotic insult was, I suppose, to be expected.

The depths of existential misery dont always lead to self-reflection. You require infinite mirrors, I believe one is more appropriate.

[Fixed Cross]

But once again this points to the value of doing something magnanimous - well Spielberg did make up, or did well by making Lincoln. That was actually a very good film.

Something of that nature, but of a higher order.

[Fixed Cross]

The Coen Brothers do make up for Spielberg.
Actually they are perhaps as great as Freud, even though their scope and impact may not be as fundamental.
Still, a real Jew would have known what to say to Ecman probably; Jews are bold like that.



Me, Im just a Lithuanian-Dutch kid in the end. But I do admire my ancestors rather than that I despise them which people have tried to teach me. I don't know why someone would ever do that, try to get someone to hate his ancestors. You're crazy if you want to go there, and you definitely do not know what suffering is.

[Ecmandu]

Fixed,

The jews have a narrative of persecution, while they have been the thrivers. And they feel "catholic guilt" from this.

Let's understand this a little deeper:

Consent violation is the only evil in existence. The jewish book never states this… why? because it disproves their god.

Same with the christians and the hindus.

There are people who have suffered WAY MORE than jews on this earth. The jewish narrative is demonstrably false, and their books are demonstrably false.

[Fixed Cross]

You haven't read it in the language it was intended to be read.

Supposedly it is a coded matrix which can be read backwards and vertically and reveal much deeper layers of meaning. I know from experience it is highly benevolent and sweet, I know this from the small bits Ive slowly learned to process, but it gets very angry, of course, when those it tries to protect are at risk. I can imagine that. I don't know what is bad about protecting ones people and I do not know what is reasonable about trying to translate a book of magical arrangement of characters in the superficial shape of a narrative into a plain old story.

In as far as my studies of historical Judaism have taught me, it is clearly the Hasidim and the other well dressed ones who get most out of it - they simply have vowed the most truthful vow, and vow it every day - they are, for better or worse, people of their people. Thats how you "win at life". Evidently.

And Jews have been excellent at receiving consent by simply being interesting and intellectually fruitful. They've given power but never enforced their book on anyone.

[Ecmandu]

You haven't read it in the language it was intended to be read.

Supposedly it is a coded matrix which can be read backwards and vertically and reveal much deeper layers of meaning. I know from experience it is highly benevolent and sweet, I know this from the small bits Ive slowly learned to process, but it gets very angry, of course, when those it tries to protect are at risk. I can imagine that. I don't know what is bad about protecting ones people and I do not know what is reasonable about trying to translate a book of magical arrangement of characters in the superficial shape of a narrative into a plain old story.

In as far as my studies of historical Judaism have taught me, it is clearly the Hasidim and the other well dressed ones who get most out of it - they simply have vowed the most truthful vow, and vow it every day - they are, for better or worse, people of their people. Thats how you "win at life". Evidently.

And Jews have been excellent at receiving consent by simply being interesting and intellectually fruitful. They've given power but never enforced their book on anyone.

To the post I made above this: This reply is insane.

It's very simple, contribute this or that, but did you speak truth? The jews did not speak truth. Neither did the hindus, the muslims, the christians, the sikhs, the buddhists, … The deepest truth of existence is that nobody wants their consent violated EVER. The problem with this revealed truth is that it obliterates these godlike figures into obscurity.

The posts I make on these boards to this regard are not ambiguous. These people all fucked up.

[Fixed Cross]

Why am I on this forum with such people as you...

I too am sort of insane, Ive needed a place where one can use ones intelligence and anger at the same time.

Something to hammer on.
I did hammer on others indiscriminately as well. I was never quite as far gone as you, Ecman, though. I don't know what to say.

[Ecmandu]

Why am I on this forum with such people as you...

I too am sort of insane, Ive needed a place where one can use ones intelligence and anger at the same time.

Something to hammer on.
I did hammer on others indiscriminately as well. I was never quite as far gone as you, Ecman, though. I don't know what to say.

I'm not trying to denigrate you anymore than just giving people the power to define their false gods. Once they define these, they realize that they're their own gods. Lots of people are scared of this! Yes. No god has stated the obvious, that nobody wants their consent violated, now what are you going to do about it? It's a good question!

[Fixed Cross]

A selfie?

Finally dared to reveal your face.

[Fixed Cross]

Why am I on this forum with such people as you...

I too am sort of insane, Ive needed a place where one can use ones intelligence and anger at the same time.

Something to hammer on.
I did hammer on others indiscriminately as well. I was never quite as far gone as you, Ecman, though. I don't know what to say.

I'm not trying to denigrate you anymore than just giving people the power to define their false gods. Once they define these, they realize that they're their own gods. Lots of people are scared of this! Yes. No god has stated the obvious, that nobody wants their consent violated, now what are you going to do about it? It's a good question!

I don't think you've read the book, let alone in Hebrew, so it seems you are lying and I don't like that. Apologize.

Furthermore, and en passant,

"Nobody wants their consent violated", or "no one wants what they don't want".

Aristotle said that simpler:
"A" = "A".

[Zero_Sum]

A selfie?

Finally dared to reveal your face.

Oh, ha-ha-ha.

I'm not the one glorifying Jewishness or zionism here, that would be you Fixed.

[Fixed Cross]

A selfie?

Finally dared to reveal your face.

Oh, ha-ha-ha.

Well, you look, um, handsome.

Your posts do make more sense now that I know your face.

[Zero_Sum]

A selfie?

Finally dared to reveal your face.

Oh, ha-ha-ha.

Well, you look, um, handsome.

Your posts do make more sense now that I know your face.

Lame post, it's what I would come to expect from you. No substance or arguments, just personal attacks instead.

[Fixed Cross]

"Handsome" is an attack now?

You snowflakes...

I was trying to be polite, dude.

[Zero_Sum]

Should be happy Fixed, Carleas removed the image. Can't criticize, mock, or question God's chosen group of psychopaths that want to enslave and destroy the planet for themselves. [The real supremacists if there are any concerning the definition of the word.]

[Fixed Cross]

Yeah right. You just got flustered.

[Zero_Sum]

Yeah right. You just got flustered.

You suck at baiting people.

[Fixed Cross]

Well, good luck anyway.

[Fixed Cross]

For readers who wonder what this was about - "Zero-Sum" hates his father who had apparently converted to Judaism, and thus he hates Jews.

[Pedro I Rengel]

I never watched Schindler's List.

I found even its aura offensive.

Fuck you Spielberg. Are you kidding me?

you said the third season of Fargo is pure porn. But you really missed out then on the ending. That's my view on it.

Fucking Schindler's list. Yeah, it was all a game. In the 90's it was far worse than guilt-tripping, which guilt-tripping might actually save a few souls in this case. It was - as an aside, I believe the Cohen brothers feel the same about Judaism and both the people and the religion as you - trivializing it. That level of emotionality is trivial, it separates emotions from danger, which is the only truth about what happened. In a sense: "it could happen to them, but it could never happen to me."

Even La Vita E Bella was less gruesome. It wasn't about some fucking universal human narrative, it was a father dealing with an unavoidable truth. The way he dealt with it maybe lied a bit too much, but the set-up was at least less fucked up.

Still and all, all-around agree with your final judgement on Speilberg.

Furthermore!

Even as pure narrative, that book is some motherfucking goddamn shit. some motherfucking goddamn shit. What makes people hate it is their hate at their own weakness.

[Pedro I Rengel]

Now, Ecmanfuckyou,

Apologize for that New Testament.

That shit is really Heresy.

The only interesting parts are when Jesus gets angry. "Wow!" Or when he's being nice to his Mom. But is that even in the bible? Kid Jesus?

Anyway, clearly even that has no place next to some goddamn text like that holy fuck.

Apologize you faggot.