obsrvr524 wrote:Isn't populism merely the antithesis of elitism? It doesn't promote any particular economic or social model other than to avoid elitist tyranny. President Trump is a notable populist.
On the Right, the conservative talk show host Tucker Carlson has caused quite a stir by claiming that the conservative emphasis on the family and family moral values cannot be subordinated to the exaltation of free market capitalism as the be-all-and-end-all of the “American Dream”; rather, he claims, the market must be structured to serve the family.
Catholic Left-wing journalist Elizabeth Bruenig, who has promoted a brand of “Catholic socialism” in her columns at the Washington Post.
Bruenig and her policy-wonk husband, Matt Bruenig, have identified themselves as democratic socialists, and have proposed Left-leaning policies such as a child allowance, explicitly connecting such a policy to socially conservative concerns for de-incentivizing abortion. Such a policy, they have also pointed out, has the benefit of appealing to feminist demands for women’s wages and conservative family values. These proposals evidence the possibility of a political philosophy and a political program which transcends traditional Left and Right, or liberal/progressive and conservative, categories.
Outside of America, in Europe, other movements generally considered Right-wing have adopted similar policies usually thought to be socialist in nature. In Hungary, prime minister Viktor Orban is said to have “out-socialized the socialists” by providing strong welfare benefits to middle class families, with the intention of mitigating the effects that free market capitalism tends to have on such families. Orban is also concerned to fight the trend of a declining population in Hungary. The conservative Law and Justice government of Poland has instituted similar welfare policies targeted toward families — policies usually thought to be characteristic of Left-wing politics such as those practiced by the welfare states of Scandinavian countries like Norway and Finland, or those proposed by the Democratic Socialists of America. These changes in Hungary and Poland have coincided with a strong shift away from liberal democracy and towards illiberal democracy, and a re-embracing of national cultural identity and traditional Judaeo-Christian social values.
Gloominary wrote:obsrvr524 wrote:Isn't populism merely the antithesis of elitism? It doesn't promote any particular economic or social model other than to avoid elitist tyranny. President Trump is a notable populist.
For you, all social and fiscal intervention is or leads to elitism, populism is synonymous with republicanism and Donald Trump is a republican.
Gloominary wrote:For me, not all social and fiscal intervention is or leads to elitism, populism is national social democracy and Donald Trump is a republican in rhetoric only, in reality he's a neocon Ziofascist, republicrats are all Ziofascists.
obsrvr524 wrote:Isn't populism merely the antithesis of elitism? It doesn't promote any particular economic or social model other than to avoid elitist tyranny. President Trump is a notable populist.
obsrvr524 wrote:Isn't populism merely the antithesis of elitism? It doesn't promote any particular economic or social model other than to avoid elitist tyranny. President Trump is a notable populist.
Gloominary wrote:For you, all social and fiscal intervention is or leads to elitism, populism is synonymous with republicanism and Donald Trump is a republican.
obsrvr524 wrote:I don't know what makes you think that, but it is false.
Gloominary wrote: anti-policies that benefit the elite at the expense of the middle and working classes?
One person's populism is another person's people finally shoving aside the problematic politicians and choosing freely. The term is usually pejorative, but I think we have to move away from the value judgment as see what it means without assuming it is either good or bad.Gloominary wrote:For me, populism is both what the people believe is in their best interests, what is in their best interests, and a concrete ideology, but it's not necessarily what some prominent politician who claims to exclusively represent the people (as opposed to special interests) says is in their best interests.
Just because x politician claims to be exclusively for the people, doesn't make him a populist, they have to earn the trust and support of the people, and have their interests at heart and in mind, in order to be populists.
The people manifest their trust and support through activism, contributing, donating to and voting for a party or politician.
The less grass roots a party or politician, the less likely they're populists.
So populism is necessarily democratic.
a person, especially a politician, who strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups.
Gloominary wrote:obsrvr524 wrote:Isn't populism merely the antithesis of elitism? It doesn't promote any particular economic or social model other than to avoid elitist tyranny. President Trump is a notable populist.
For you, all social and fiscal intervention is or leads to elitism, populism is synonymous with republicanism and Donald Trump is a republican.
For me, not all social and fiscal intervention is or leads to elitism, populism is national social democracy and Donald Trump is a republican in rhetoric only, in reality he's a neocon Ziofascist, republicrats are all Ziofascists.
Fixed Cross wrote:Gloominary wrote:obsrvr524 wrote:Isn't populism merely the antithesis of elitism? It doesn't promote any particular economic or social model other than to avoid elitist tyranny. President Trump is a notable populist.
For you, all social and fiscal intervention is or leads to elitism, populism is synonymous with republicanism and Donald Trump is a republican.
For me, not all social and fiscal intervention is or leads to elitism, populism is national social democracy and Donald Trump is a republican in rhetoric only, in reality he's a neocon Ziofascist, republicrats are all Ziofascists.
What on Earth is all you dudes issues with Zionism. Its so weird.
Zionism. Meaning: the politics of Jews to return to their own land.
Why are you so fascinated with what happens in that small piece of land you'll very likely never even visit? Why does it hurt you so much that the Jews are no longer prey to an given horde of morons?
Never mind, I know he answers: "muh jews have made me an incel!"
That's why I keep going on in living, to witness such an event would make these last twenty years of misery or suffering all the more worth it.
Fixed Cross wrote:That's why I keep going on in living, to witness such an event would make these last twenty years of misery or suffering all the more worth it.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
you are so fucking slavish.
To keep living only to see God punish the happy people.
Fixed Cross wrote:Oh was it all unfair to you?
Life is will to power, you faggot.
Pardon my French.
I should leave this thread to you guys. No one gives a fuck about reality here anyway.
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