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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby obsrvr524 » Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:26 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:K: I love these fact free post that have no relationship of any kind to
to reality... do you have any evidence of any kind..
or is just more "conspiracies are us?"...Evidence dude... you need
evidence.. not wild insane stories that wouldn't amuse a two year old..

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Are you going to be able to provide evidence that they did NOT plant anything if they accuse? - of course not - and why? - because they disallowed any witnesses (illegally). In addition they told the security staff to turn off all security cameras. What could their justification possibly be for ensuring that no one could see what they were doing?

As it turned out - the security team did NOT turn off the cameras and when the FBI (having no authority to require it of them) discovered they were being observed - they went ballistic and are now demanding that those recordings be remanded to the FBI (where all documents and evidence goes to die).

And even past all of that suspicious activity - they still refuse to tell anyone what they justification for the raid was. They refuse to let anyone see the warrant which they held 10 feet away from Mr Trump's attorney at the time. The warrant tells of exactly what they are allowed to search and remove (but they want that to be their secret).

It is obvious that the raid had nothing to do with "classified documents". Mr Trump had already provided oversight and had a standing invitation for the national archives people to come back and look again. There had been no resistance. He was told to put a padlock on the security room - which he did - merely days before they cut that same lock off in order to break in (what had they planted before the lock was installed?).

The FBI waited until Mr Trump was out of town to break into his home and rifle through anything and everything (even Ms Trump's wardrobe - probably sniffing panties). They broke open his safe and remove about 15 boxes of documents so they could rifle through those back at their (very insecure) office.

They couldn't find a judge to sign off on any search warrant - so they got a low level Obama magistrate (appointed - not elected) to sign the warrant in secret.

The outstanding issue is the lack of any reason being given to anyone. Even in far less public and political circumstances - the reasons are generally told to the press. This is one time it is paramount to tell the press - but instead - it is all hidden - and most probably illegal.

The new American communists don't care about laws or the US Constitution - "Laws for thee - not for me".
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:31 pm

obsrvr524 wrote:
Peter Kropotkin wrote:K: I love these fact free post that have no relationship of any kind to
to reality... do you have any evidence of any kind..
or is just more "conspiracies are us?"...Evidence dude... you need
evidence.. not wild insane stories that wouldn't amuse a two year old..

Kropotkin

Are you going to be able to provide evidence that they did NOT plant anything if they accuse? - of course not - and why? - because they disallowed any witnesses (illegally). In addition they told the security staff to turn off all security cameras. What could their justification possibly be for ensuring that no one could see what they were doing?

As it turned out - the security team did NOT turn off the cameras and when the FBI (having no authority to require it of them) discovered they were being observed - they went ballistic and are now demanding that those recordings be remanded to the FBI (where all documents and evidence goes to die).

And even past all of that suspicious activity - they still refuse to tell anyone what they justification for the raid was. They refuse to let anyone see the warrant which they held 10 feet away from Mr Trump's attorney at the time. The warrant tells of exactly what they are allowed to search and remove (but they want that to be their secret).

It is obvious that the raid had nothing to do with "classified documents". Mr Trump had already provided oversight and had a standing invitation for the national archives people to come back and look again. There had been no resistance. He was told to put a padlock on the security room - which he did - merely days before they cut that same lock off in order to break in (what had they planted before the lock was installed?).

The FBI waited until Mr Trump was out of town to break into his home and rifle through anything and everything (even Ms Trump's wardrobe - probably sniffing panties). They broke open his safe and remove about 15 boxes of documents so they could rifle through those back at their (very insecure) office.

They couldn't find a judge to sign off on any search warrant - so they got a low level Obama magistrate (appointed - not elected) to sign the warrant in secret.

The outstanding issue is the lack of any reason being given to anyone. Even in far less public and political circumstances - the reasons are generally told to the press. This is one time it is paramount to tell the press - but instead - it is all hidden - and most probably illegal.

The new American communists don't care about laws or the US Constitution - "Laws for thee - not for me".


K: actually the IQ45 legal team can release the warrant at any time..
the government cannot, but the IQ45 team can... so, why haven't
the IQ45 legal team released the warrant???? They haven't released it
because it shows the illegal actions of IQ45.... AND it offers up proof
of those illegal actions...

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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby obsrvr524 » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:07 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:K: actually the IQ45 legal team can release the warrant at any time..
the government cannot, but the IQ45 team can... so, why haven't
the IQ45 legal team released the warrant???? They haven't released it
because it shows the illegal actions of IQ45.... AND it offers up proof
of those illegal actions...

Kropotkin

"Actually" the government certainly can and almost always does in high profile cases. And in the case of the US FBI - they almost always leek any information that by itself makes Mr Trump or populist politicians look bad. They do whatever they want to do.

And a warrant doesn't show proof of anything at all other than a copper wants in your home and a judge (not even in this case) wants you to let him in. In this case they could have simply asked Mr Trump - but that wouldn't be so dramatic - 30 armed feds with flashing lights and machine guns -- as if. =;

I suspect they are delaying because they are having trouble finding or manufacturing anything to justify their dramatic parade raid - and haven't been able to get control of the security footage of their activities yet.

Mr Trump and attorneys are probably waiting for them to make a fool of themselves (again).
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    • blame each for the sins of the other
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:25 pm

DOJ filed a motion to unseal the warrant and property receipt. They're going to make it public since Trump is trying to keep it hidden.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:29 pm

AG press conference today. All the trumper media is demanding explanation but trump is keeping the warrant and property receipt secret from the public. DOJ files to unseal it.

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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:36 pm

and I note that no one from the IQ45 legal team is claiming
that the warrant, the search or the evidence found has been done
illegally... not one single person.. in other words, the IQ45 legal team
has no legal problem with the warrant or the search.... for that is
the first thing a legal team screams about, how "illegal" the warrant or
the search was.. but not one word... that should tell us something..

secondly, IQ45 legal team can at any point, release the warrant
to the general public, there are no rules/laws preventing them from
doing so, so, why hasn't the legal team released the warrant?

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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:52 pm

they only deal in speculation and conspiracy. so they're pretending that evidence was planted and pushing that narrative as a distraction. it's the same with all their election fraud cases. speculate, sell conspiracy, then get kicked out of court for a lack of evidence and refuse to ever speak under oath. that seems to be the playbook. too bad everyone knows that he actually took the documents.

now they're all scrambling around down there trying to figure out who the fbi source it. what a disorganized bunch of criminal hacks.


https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/1 ... p-00051075
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:56 pm

lol he's out there screaming witch hunt again and talking about obama lmfaoooo
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:04 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:lol he's out there screaming witch hunt again and talking about obama lmfaoooo


K: IQ45 has no policies outside of airing his many grievances..
oh, and engaging in the grift of his supporters/sheep

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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:07 pm

so republicans have been calling for doj/fbi to explain themselves and now the motion has been filed to release the warrant/property list.

what you wanna bet that trump et al object to the motion and try to keep the information hidden?
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:28 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:so republicans have been calling for doj/fbi to explain themselves and now the motion has been filed to release the warrant/property list.

what you wanna bet that trump et al object to the motion and try to keep the information hidden?


K: of course they will... IQ45 hates any information that might show him
to be the grifter/crook he is...

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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:33 pm

armed maga standoff at cincinatti fbi building happening now
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:39 pm

they should kneel on his neck for 9 minutes and kill him that way in front of a crowd because you know...that's worse than trying to pass off a fake $20 bill
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Aug 11, 2022 9:59 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:armed maga standoff at cincinatti fbi building happening now


K: and the death cult claim it is a "false flag" operation..

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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:23 am

they killed it. it's dead. shot during a chase. not sure if it ended up bleeding out or if they found it and shot it again but either way one less magat so that's good.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:27 am

there's something that's just so american about seeing a standoff at an fbi building, going to return your crackling samsung earbuds to amazon via the ups store, getting some tacos, ordering new earbuds and then just popping back on twitter to see that the psycho has been killed then moving on about your day. what a time to be alive.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:29 am

like one day we'll be telling the story of the time some people tried to make the case that it was the left who raided the capital to stop the electorcal count after the right wing candidate lost. like huge logical gaps between the story and what you see right before your eyes just glossed over by sycophantic dupes waving flags and literally refusing to believe anything that isn't a wild conspiracy.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:41 am

now being reported that part of what was sought were documents relating to nuclear programs. can't help but to be reminded of the time trump pardoned this guy.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/w ... eport-says
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:18 am

trump be like "where's my roy cohn?"

i be like "where's my john wilkes booth?"
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:28 am

obsrvr524 wrote:Are you going to be able to provide evidence that they did NOT plant anything if they accuse?



this is just some good old fashioned stupidity. if you accuse someone of something, you're the one who has to prove it. so if you're going with this planted evidence bit, then you have to prove it. the fact that you're bending so hard to try and keep your trump-as-god worldview intact as more and more shit comes out every day against him is fucking hilarious.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:58 am

like 90% of republican congressional twitter accts have gone silent all day and the only ones saying anything are the ones still going off about gas prices and shit trying to divert attention. CARAVANS OF 87000 IRS AGENTS AT THE BORDER WITH PRONOUNS AND HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP TEACHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 7:01 am

observr and urwrong already out rushing to send more of their $ i'm sure they're on his email list
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby obsrvr524 » Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:00 am

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I wonder what the ILP Commie Cult thinks a small army was going to use their machine guns for while merely collecting documents?

And also while you have been sleeping - the American communists have now passed a bill arming the new 87,000 IRS agents with 500 million ammo rounds and $80 billion tax from the peasants while disarming AR15's from only the citizen peasants - not any federal agency.

And while this coup is under way - OBiden and family has ducked out and skipped the country.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:14 am

you fucking moron. anyone can go and buy a rifle whenever they want. no one has been disarmed. law enforcement is always armed. and they're always armed when they serve warrants. look at you flailing. escaping into your alternate reality. hilarious.
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Re: Mar-a- Largo raid and its political implications..

Postby Mr Reasonable » Fri Aug 12, 2022 9:15 am

how much money have you sent the "billionaire"? be honest
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