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Re: Abortion

Postby iambiguous » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:40 pm

phoneutria wrote:
iambiguous wrote:Oh, okay, sterilize men for the reasons you prescribe because because men once sterilized women for the reasons they prescribed.

Don't even allow for the possibility that others may have reasons to reject sterilization of either men or women. It's the "tit for tat" philosophy instead.


this is a THOUGHT experiment


From above:

phoneutria wrote:start talking about male sterilization
that is at least a thing you can know something about

i wanna hear some opinions on this
the proposal is that all men reaching sexual maturity
be sterilized
it's not rhetorical
go


Nobody?


She means someone she hasn't "blocked" of course.

Otherwise, it wouldn't surprise me at all if she is actually being dead serious.


phoneutria wrote: i am


And with thought experiments the points revolve almost entirely around the definition and the meaning that one gives to the words that comprise the thoughts themselves.

Instead, for me, when it comes to things like the "abortion wars", it's always about bringing those thoughts "down to earth" and examining them in a particular context where actual flesh and blood men are in fact being sterilized. And where actual flesh and blood babies are in fact being shredded.

phoneutria wrote: i suspect that a lot of men will have issues
with a law demanding that they be sterilized
by asking what the members here think about that
i am allowing for that possibility to be spoken about
i am asking people to voice their opinions
that is the entire point behind me posting that
given that I am obviously against it

i have always been an individual rights advocate
i am not personally in favor or state of federal government
doing anything such


Well, let's just say that it did not come off that way to me.

And then back to my point: that what individual men and women are for and against in regard to value judgments of this sort is rooted more in "I" as an existential fabrication [from the cradle to the grave] derived from the points I raise here: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 1&t=176529

And especially here: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 1&t=194382

phoneutria wrote: you haven't expressed
if you think it is appropriate
for a state/federal law
to mandate
that you be sterilized
well?


Given what particular context? Or is it just because I am a man?


phoneutria wrote: that context right there
a state or federal mandate
on all men
to be sterilized


Again and again and again: for "me" when embedded in this frame of mind...

If I am always of the opinion that 1] my own values are rooted in dasein and 2] that there are no objective values "I" can reach, then every time I make one particular moral/political leap, I am admitting that I might have gone in the other direction...or that I might just as well have gone in the other direction. Then "I" begins to fracture and fragment to the point there is nothing able to actually keep it all together. At least not with respect to choosing sides morally and politically.


...what "I" deem to be appropriate here is no less from a fractured and fragmented sense of self.

Instead, what I am interested in with you and others is how what you or they construe to be appropriate here is not entangled in that grim, glum frame of mind.

phoneutria wrote:besides are you even sure you're a man?
isn't that what postmodernists are all about?
that everything is fluid, nothing is biological
everything is dasein
so how can you even say for sure that you are a man?
(please do not answer that
it is not the scope of the thread
i am just taking the piss)


In all honesty, this is the sort of thing I would expect from Pedro or Joker or Wendy. There are those objective aspects of my Self deeply rooted in the either/or world: biologically, demographically, empirically, factually.

Dasein is applicable [to me] only in regard to moral, political and esthetic value judgments. In the arguments I make in my signature threads.

Well, given the vehemence with which you advocated sterilization above, I presumed you were advocating a more, uh, radical approach to the problem. Well, anyway, the problem as you see it subjectively/subjunctively "in your head". "Here and now" as it were. If you get that part.

That others might see both the problem and any possible solution differently than you do...what then?


phoneutria wrote:again
any imposition of values upon an individual
which are not his or hers
is immoral


So, if you are a man committed to being a father in a relationship with a woman committed to being a mother and you bring children into this world, is the manner in which you indoctrinate them to think about the world around them [morally, politically, racially, sexually etc.] immoral?

And even as you grow older and acquire more autonomy as an adult [presuming free will of course] how are the values you come to embody "morally" not more in sync with my arguments rather than the arguments of the objectivists here among us?

In fact, with my own daughter, I was always careful to make a distinction between what I thought about things morally, politically and in regard to things like God and religion, and how, as she got older, she may not think about them the same way at all.

phoneutria wrote:therefore a man's failure to assure himself
of the fact that the woman he is impregnating
is a willing participant of that venture
before the fact
(by having some pillow talk maybe, about parenthood)
precludes him from having any claim whatsoever over that child
thus
if he does not want his child aborted
with a woman who does not want to become a mother
he must not impregnate her

and if that should happen
the blood is on HIS HANDS
as much as it is on HERS

don't want your baby killed?
don't put it in a hostile place


Again, however, what if the pregnancy resulted from a defective contraceptive? Neither partner wanted to be parents but the biological imperatives kick in and the baby is conceived. Or what if they both wanted to be parents and the woman becomes pregnant but then for any number of reasons their circumstances change dramatically and that is not longer the case?

The actual contexts here are infinite. But either the baby is shredded or the woman is forced to give birth. Conflicting goods. And I have noted why and how "I" am "fractured and fragmented" in regard to that. How then are others not "drawn and quartered" in the same manner? Can they perhaps persuade me to yank myself up out of the philosophical hole that "I" have dug myself into here?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:50 pm

again
any imposition of values upon an individual
which are not his or hers
is immoral

you realise how retarded this is given that this is an opinion that contradicts itself by itself??? if any imposition blablabla is immoral then trying to impose that as a standard of not imposing blablabla is just as immoral, categorically and logically, as any other imposition that you speak about...anyway...morality and arguments around it are one of the best topics to see exposed stupidity and private make-up of an individual, which fucking creeps me the fuck out given how little aware some people are about this.
individuals which say abortion should be absolutely legal, or that its a question of 'fitness' simply expose their own selfishness and indifference to others around them and show what empathy they have towards people(or generally sentient beings) who they have no selfish interest towards and nothing to gain from, little imagination and cunt brains. it's like this...like the kook cunts over at SHITthyself...love animals and be a vegetarian but see nothing wrong with concentration camps and the treatment of people in them...exposes a level of insanity that must be accounted for with some mental disturbances on an organic level, which again, fucking creeps you out.
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:15 am

also, stoupid people fail to realise that abortion is not some kind of god-given social right but a result of a technological capacity that is in turn a small part of the biological(and as an extension medical)revolution that began with the uncovering of the genome sequence by Kirk and Watson...it is a great technological revolution that will have consequences beyond what one thinks about abortion,,,it will, like many other revolutions, turn the way people relate to eachother and so on on its head. for example: if females own biology is no longer needed to carry out a pregnancy...like it will not be necessary...do you spooks think this will not have an impact on how males and females relate to each-other erotically and socially??? can you not see what a great danger this might be, given its ability for certain males to be able to 'produce' countless children??? or simulation...what power will females have in a society if males can satisfy their sexual experience, are not needed for pregnancies or even emotional needs of males that would be able to be satiated chemically or in whatever other way???
you idiots talk about these issues with a depth and breadth of understanding that is ridiculously simple and pretentious.
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Re: Abortion

Postby iambiguous » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:10 pm

Yo, phoneutria!

You're up!!

Or am I back on "ignore" again? 8)

iambiguous wrote:
phoneutria wrote:
iambiguous wrote:Oh, okay, sterilize men for the reasons you prescribe because because men once sterilized women for the reasons they prescribed.

Don't even allow for the possibility that others may have reasons to reject sterilization of either men or women. It's the "tit for tat" philosophy instead.


this is a THOUGHT experiment


From above:

phoneutria wrote:start talking about male sterilization
that is at least a thing you can know something about

i wanna hear some opinions on this
the proposal is that all men reaching sexual maturity
be sterilized
it's not rhetorical
go


Nobody?


She means someone she hasn't "blocked" of course.

Otherwise, it wouldn't surprise me at all if she is actually being dead serious.


phoneutria wrote: i am


And with thought experiments the points revolve almost entirely around the definition and the meaning that one gives to the words that comprise the thoughts themselves.

Instead, for me, when it comes to things like the "abortion wars", it's always about bringing those thoughts "down to earth" and examining them in a particular context where actual flesh and blood men are in fact being sterilized. And where actual flesh and blood babies are in fact being shredded.

phoneutria wrote: i suspect that a lot of men will have issues
with a law demanding that they be sterilized
by asking what the members here think about that
i am allowing for that possibility to be spoken about
i am asking people to voice their opinions
that is the entire point behind me posting that
given that I am obviously against it

i have always been an individual rights advocate
i am not personally in favor or state of federal government
doing anything such


Well, let's just say that it did not come off that way to me.

And then back to my point: that what individual men and women are for and against in regard to value judgments of this sort is rooted more in "I" as an existential fabrication [from the cradle to the grave] derived from the points I raise here: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 1&t=176529

And especially here: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 1&t=194382

phoneutria wrote: you haven't expressed
if you think it is appropriate
for a state/federal law
to mandate
that you be sterilized
well?


Given what particular context? Or is it just because I am a man?


phoneutria wrote: that context right there
a state or federal mandate
on all men
to be sterilized


Again and again and again: for "me" when embedded in this frame of mind...

If I am always of the opinion that 1] my own values are rooted in dasein and 2] that there are no objective values "I" can reach, then every time I make one particular moral/political leap, I am admitting that I might have gone in the other direction...or that I might just as well have gone in the other direction. Then "I" begins to fracture and fragment to the point there is nothing able to actually keep it all together. At least not with respect to choosing sides morally and politically.


...what "I" deem to be appropriate here is no less from a fractured and fragmented sense of self.

Instead, what I am interested in with you and others is how what you or they construe to be appropriate here is not entangled in that grim, glum frame of mind.

phoneutria wrote:besides are you even sure you're a man?
isn't that what postmodernists are all about?
that everything is fluid, nothing is biological
everything is dasein
so how can you even say for sure that you are a man?
(please do not answer that
it is not the scope of the thread
i am just taking the piss)


In all honesty, this is the sort of thing I would expect from Pedro or Joker or Wendy. There are those objective aspects of my Self deeply rooted in the either/or world: biologically, demographically, empirically, factually.

Dasein is applicable [to me] only in regard to moral, political and esthetic value judgments. In the arguments I make in my signature threads.

Well, given the vehemence with which you advocated sterilization above, I presumed you were advocating a more, uh, radical approach to the problem. Well, anyway, the problem as you see it subjectively/subjunctively "in your head". "Here and now" as it were. If you get that part.

That others might see both the problem and any possible solution differently than you do...what then?


phoneutria wrote:again
any imposition of values upon an individual
which are not his or hers
is immoral


So, if you are a man committed to being a father in a relationship with a woman committed to being a mother and you bring children into this world, is the manner in which you indoctrinate them to think about the world around them [morally, politically, racially, sexually etc.] immoral?

And even as you grow older and acquire more autonomy as an adult [presuming free will of course] how are the values you come to embody "morally" not more in sync with my arguments rather than the arguments of the objectivists here among us?

In fact, with my own daughter, I was always careful to make a distinction between what I thought about things morally, politically and in regard to things like God and religion, and how, as she got older, she may not think about them the same way at all.

phoneutria wrote:therefore a man's failure to assure himself
of the fact that the woman he is impregnating
is a willing participant of that venture
before the fact
(by having some pillow talk maybe, about parenthood)
precludes him from having any claim whatsoever over that child
thus
if he does not want his child aborted
with a woman who does not want to become a mother
he must not impregnate her

and if that should happen
the blood is on HIS HANDS
as much as it is on HERS

don't want your baby killed?
don't put it in a hostile place


Again, however, what if the pregnancy resulted from a defective contraceptive? Neither partner wanted to be parents but the biological imperatives kick in and the baby is conceived. Or what if they both wanted to be parents and the woman becomes pregnant but then for any number of reasons their circumstances change dramatically and that is not longer the case?

The actual contexts here are infinite. But either the baby is shredded or the woman is forced to give birth. Conflicting goods. And I have noted why and how "I" am "fractured and fragmented" in regard to that. How then are others not "drawn and quartered" in the same manner? Can they perhaps persuade me to yank myself up out of the philosophical hole that "I" have dug myself into here?
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176529
Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Mon Feb 15, 2021 7:41 pm

idiot...when is a human born, conceived or whatever???when the egg gets penetrated by the sperm head...after this happens, you already have a future adult human, a child already developing to be an adult with all his DNA encoded, on his way to become an adult so abortion is a killing(not murder) of a defenceless human being without any doubt. check the biology and what the 'sciences' say about when life starts. so lets start here...you are basically saying that it is quite normal and non-controversial to kill another human being because 'your circumstances have changed' or 'the condom broke' just because that human is completely defenceless and because he is so undeveloped and so tiny that he can just be cut off and pulled out and thrown into a bin without much populist and emotive backlash and controversy... do you fucking realise what you are saying you dumb mutt???you Yanks HAVE IT COMING...just wait...disgusting.
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Re: Abortion

Postby Shepherdess » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:32 pm

Pedro I Rengel

Do you believe, in your heart, that having a clear mind, any woman in any situation would make that decision?


The heart is emotional, sentimental, compassionate. Can any human being judging only in that way possibly believe that a woman having a clear mind in any situation would never abort their child?

I am sure that there are many women who agonize over ending their pregnancy with much forethought.
After all, their unborn child Is a part of them and they may already feel love for them. Humans are complicated. At the same time, these women know, or at least feel that they know, based on everything which is going on in their lives and based on their agonizing clear thinking, that it is just not the right time for them.

Perhaps the clearer the mind, the more tragic it all becomes for the woman. Women are not like sardines in a can. We are like a color spectrum.

I do not condone abortion except under tragic conditions, i.e. that of the child having the worst life, medically speaking.
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Re: Abortion

Postby iambiguous » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:12 pm

Yo, phoneutria!

You had me on ignore for the longest time. Then, out of the blue, you respond to the points I made on this thread. As a result, we actually exchanged a few posts. An exchange in which it seemed that we were willing to 1] respect each other's intelligence and 2] avoid huffing and puffing.

Then you ended it all as abruptly as it had begun.

Why?

Here's the thing. Well, my thing admittedly. With you, I figure there's at least a chance you might succeed in nudging me in a less grim and cynical direction. You know, regarding the hole I have dug myself into pertaining to moral and political value judgments. On the other hand, I'm thinking, I might be able to nudge you into falling down into the hole with me.

At least I'd have someone to share the fucking hole with!
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:31 pm

pretty fucking creepy maaan
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Re: Abortion

Postby Sculptor » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:43 pm

polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:idiot...when is a human born, conceived or whatever???when the egg gets penetrated by the sperm head...after this happens, you already have a future adult human, .


Up to 20% of ALL pregnancies end on natural miscarriages.

If you believe in god, then that means, ipso facto, that God is the world's most prolific abortionist.
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Re: Abortion

Postby Sculptor » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:45 pm

polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:also, stoupid people fail to realise that abortion is not some kind of god-given social right


Maybe it is "god's right"?

Since we are to follow the example of god, then we should follow him in his obsession with abortion?
Up to 20% of ALL pregnancies end on natural miscarriages.
Maybe god is trying to tell us something, like STOP HAVING so may babies and fucking up the world??
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:49 pm

Sculptor wrote:
polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:idiot...when is a human born, conceived or whatever???when the egg gets penetrated by the sperm head...after this happens, you already have a future adult human, .


Up to 20% of ALL pregnancies end on natural miscarriages.

If you believe in god, then that means, ipso facto, that God is the world's most prolific abortionist.

what god? the Christian God is omnipotent and all-loving and beyond human comprehension in his ways but the humans' original sin introduced evil into the world and God, in his unfathomable ways, chose to let it be in the world and cause human degradation and suffering so it is not the God causing the human suffering but Satan and his temptations and his evil ways. if a woman has a miscarriage or an abortion is carried out...this is not yet evil and sin(but might be), because we are all in Gods hands and God has a plan that is unfathomable to us and our primitive and limited beings and abortion can be done out of love and care and nowhere in the Bible does it say that life must be continued at all costs and without any consideration for the consequences. but I am not a Christian and I don't believe in a personal God that looks after us or intervenes in human affairs.
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Re: Abortion

Postby Kathrina » Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:59 pm

He means his Darwinian God!
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:05 am

Kathrina wrote:He means his Darwinian God!

?there is no Darwinian God...evolution is simply how the Christian God created the world, he obviously was not molding it with his hands literally and he did not actually work for 6 days to take a break on the 7th literally and it did not take 7 days as the Bible says literally also. who spoke to God about this???Moses wrote the truths as the God intended for that day humans to be seen best regarding the origins(or maybe he faltered) but he evidently has changed his mind since and allowed the human-kind to uncover the inner-workings of his creation which are closer to what really has happened and he must have done so for a reason too. humans have misunderstood the doings of God and represented them the best they could have in the times past but now we know better and are beginning to see how it really happened.
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Re: Abortion

Postby Kathrina » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:14 am

This one:

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I was not talking to you, but to the other one who believes in a Darwinistic god who also is a communistic god. It is not God but their "god", their false god.

Do you now know what I mean?
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:18 am

Kathrina wrote:This one:

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I was not talking to you, but to the other one who believs in a Darwinistic god who also is a communistic god. It is not Gog but their "god", their false god.

Do you now know what I mean?

no I don't know what you mean since I see no contradiction between believing in a Christian God and in Darwins' works and the following discoveries. and I don't really need to wait to be spoken to or allowed to speak my mind to do so, especially not by people who are creationists despite the Moses commandment to seek and speak truth always and never stray from the path of truth which is impossible to do if you want to deny evolution at this point.
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Re: Abortion

Postby Kathrina » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:23 am

A Darwinistic god is an atheistic god, a false god.

Do you really think that an atheistic God is possible in the traditional way, for instance in the way of a monotheistic god, let's say Christian God?
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:30 am

Kathrina wrote:A Darwinistic god is an atheistic god, a false god.

Do you really think that an atheistic God is possible in the traditional way, for instance in the way of a monotheistic god, let's say Christian God?

Did evolution happen or not? Are we at the centre of the universe? Is heaven with all the souls beyond the sky-line? The Bible was written by humans and so it is bound to be faulty just like humankind is...what has that got to do with God? The commandments are simple...speak the truth and seek the truth...a mans mind can obviously testify that the earth is not at the center of the universe or that evolution did happen and that there is no heaven beyond the sky-line so he must speak the truth and admit it else he sins against Gods will and will be damned for doing so...do not bear false witness against thy neighbor and if you want to accuse Darwin of lying then you are doing just that as as such going against the Gods will and sinning.
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:34 am

God knows his ways and your destiny, not the preacher or the priest so stop being arrogant and denying obvious truths and lying against others' reputations to save your face. The preacher and the priest are only as good as their emulation of the life of Jesus Christ is and their adherence to the commandments and the commandments clearly instruct every Christian to speak and seek the truth.
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:42 am

I don't believe in God...so what...God has stripped me of my faith for a reason and I am content that he has a plan and purpose for me even though I don't believe in his existence and that he loves me and wants something from me... as long as I don't sin and read the Bible what human has God administered authority to tell me I am in the wrong if I am not sinning???not even Pope has such authority because this is a question of each mans soul and there only God can rule.
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Re: Abortion

Postby Kathrina » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:44 am

It's okay.

Did you NOT write the following post?

polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:
Sculptor wrote:
polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:idiot...when is a human born, conceived or whatever???when the egg gets penetrated by the sperm head...after this happens, you already have a future adult human, .


Up to 20% of ALL pregnancies end on natural miscarriages.

If you believe in god, then that means, ipso facto, that God is the world's most prolific abortionist.

what god? the Christian God is omnipotent and all-loving and beyond human comprehension in his ways but the humans' original sin introduced evil into the world and God, in his unfathomable ways, chose to let it be in the world and cause human degradation and suffering so it is not the God causing the human suffering but Satan and his temptations and his evil ways. if a woman has a miscarriage or an abortion is carried out...this is not yet evil and sin(but might be), because we are all in Gods hands and God has a plan that is unfathomable to us and our primitive and limited beings and abortion can be done out of love and care and nowhere in the Bible does it say that life must be continued at all costs and without any consideration for the consequences. but I am not a Christian and I don't believe in a personal God that looks after us or intervenes in human affairs.
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:48 am

what? can you people start talking some sense and actually writing your thoughts down instead of expecting others to read your minds???
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:56 am

I am not a Christian in the sense this idiot implies it and I don't believe in a God he implies I supposedly believe, hence my reply that I do not believe in a God(which is true) and that I am not a 'Christian'(in the sense of feeling some kind of duty to defend God and wonder why he allows miscarriages to occur and in general being a backward cunt who thinks God is like a parent who follows you around and saves you from falling down)but I am a Christian Catholic, christened, born out of a marriage so don't you dare to start to smear me with accusations of not being a Christian because I think your creationist bullshit is a sin(because it evidently is a sin since you are evidently lying and bearing false witness to the scientists who came up with evolutionary sciences seeing them as truth and doing genuine, honest intellectual work)... I said what I said because this idiot is, for the 10th time, trying to assign me beliefs that are not mine.
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:09 am

My reply to the cunt was not even directed at him but at any Christian who might be intimidated by such clever sophisms and as a member of the Christian community of souls I want to help such an individual and provide my own evaluation of the Christian faith because If I am speaking the truth(as I am) then this truth must be a path to a God and must lead to some good so it is worth speaking. I personally have no need to defend God in front of jag-offs who think they are smarter than they are, God is omnipotent and does not need me to do anything for him, not even me believe in him as he evidently decided it was in my fate to lose my faith in him.
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Re: Abortion

Postby iambiguous » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:16 am

polishyouthgotipbanned wrote:pretty fucking creepy maaan


Not at all. What is creepy are those here [like you] who seem to be interested in only one hole in particular when it comes to the "philosophy chicks". Me, the hole I'm preoccupied with is entirely philosophical. I've thought myself into a brutally daunting and pessimistic frame of mind when it comes to moral and political value judgments. And in regard to the abyss.

And, if others can't facilitate or augment my efforts to yank myself up out of it, then the next best thing is to have others able to at least empathize with my grim conclusions.
He was like a man who wanted to change all; and could not; so burned with his impotence; and had only me, an infinitely small microcosm to convert or detest. John Fowles

Start here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=176529
Then here: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=185296
And here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=194382
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Re: Abortion

Postby polishyouthgotipbanned » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:41 am

bro you are such a disturbing creep it is uncanny; your problems are mental not intellectual and you should go see a psychiatrist, tell them everything they ask about honestly and take what they say seriously. and if you think I am here trying to get laid...you definitely need to get your head sorted out or try harder to stop assuming the worst about people in your life like a narcissistic cunt.
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