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Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:53 pm

This will be an ongoing thread to point out ways in which the United States has lost it’s life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, reflected in changes: in the laws, in social interactions, etc.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:54 am

Local gas prices climbed $.20 on the 6th. Not sure if this signifies anything yet, unless the price of other essential commodities increased as well (dunno, but if anyone does, please add your info), or if there is a significant increase in many items and the costs keep creeping upwards as time goes on, upwards faster than normally. Did any essential costs go down?
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:52 am

Major platforms that sponsor the Parler app download (free speech in the town square idea) are taking action against The Parler app. for inciting violence as if the app. is responsible. An app. representative said their policy is against twenty four hour surveillance of its users, but they will take action once notified on a case by case basis. So, Google has removed access to the Parler app today, while at the same time the number of people who are downloading the app has risen so significantly in the last twenty four hours that the app servers have crashed repeatedly. Apple may be threatening to remove Parler from their app store as well. And if Amazon drops Parler from using their servers, Parler is toast.

Personally, if Apple and Amazon removes Parler, I will be buying a cheap burner smart phone (my iphone will be dead to me)and Amazon will never see another penny. To be sure both are excommunicated, I will spend time investigating all that Apple and Amazon own so I am sure that they do not get a direct cent from me via another business.

Basically, I've hated all tech after the 1980s anyways, so going oldschool will improve my frustration levels, stop radiation poisoning and eye damage, and allow my moods to remain more in balance.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:57 am

WendyDarling wrote:Major platforms that sponsor the Parler app download (free speech in the town square idea) are taking action against The Parler app. for inciting violence as if the app. is responsible. An app. representative said their policy is against twenty four hour surveillance of its users, but they will take action once notified on a case by case basis. So, Google has removed access to the Parler app today, while at the same time the number of people who are downloading the app has risen so significantly in the last twenty four hours that the app servers have crashed repeatedly. Apple may be threatening to remove Parler from their app store as well. And if Amazon drops Parler from using their servers, Parler is toast.

Personally, if Apple and Amazon removes Parler, I will be buying a cheap burner smart phone (my iphone will be dead to me)and Amazon will never see another penny. To be sure both are excommunicated, I will spend time investigating all that Apple and Amazon own so I am sure that they do not get a direct cent from me via another business.

Basically, I've hated all tech after the 1980s anyways, so going oldschool will improve my frustration levels, stop radiation poisoning and eye damage, and allow my moods to remain more in balance.



if trump had his way and did away with section 230 then parler would be responsible
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:06 am

If Parler is not responsible due to 230, why are the major platforms taking the stance that Parler is, when they themselves are not held responsible?

On another note, what if Linux became the language used by future online businesses, like would people be rid of Microsoft/Google, and who controls the servers on which Linux runs?
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:01 am

because they are not the govt. they are private companies that parler has agreements with which those companies are allowed to terminate....unless you want big govt to tell private companies what they can do and which deals they can make, that's the way it is. there isn't a law that says parler cant make its own operating systems or its own devices and compete with google and apple. and they are free to create and support their own platform if they want and if they can. but you can't make someone else give you a platform. your right to free speech does not include that.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby Mr Reasonable » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:07 am

and because they have standards that prevent the kind of things that they are accusing parler of. parler is literally just all the people who have been kicked off normal platforms for spreading conspiracies, inciting violence, spamming hate speech, and trolling. its the last place that will let you have an acct once you have been kicked off everything else for being destructive. there is a real distinction to be made there. this fundamental misunderstanding of free speech is common among certain groups. the same groups who tend to always think about their rights, and never think about the rights of others.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:26 am

Mr Reasonable wrote:because they are not the govt. they are private companies that parler has agreements with which those companies are allowed to terminate....unless you want big govt to tell private companies what they can do and which deals they can make, that's the way it is. there isn't a law that says parler cant make its own operating systems or its own devices and compete with google and apple. and they are free to create and support their own platform if they want and if they can. but you can't make someone else give you a platform. your right to free speech does not include that.

How many platforms are there? No clue about what goes into making one. Must be expensive if there aren’t lots. So a platform is different than a server? But platforms provide server space but do legwork to get attention for businesses? Like a hub for businesses?
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Jan 09, 2021 8:29 am

Mr Reasonable wrote:and because they have standards that prevent the kind of things that they are accusing parler of. parler is literally just all the people who have been kicked off normal platforms for spreading conspiracies, inciting violence, spamming hate speech, and trolling. its the last place that will let you have an acct once you have been kicked off everything else for being destructive. there is a real distinction to be made there. this fundamental misunderstanding of free speech is common among certain groups. the same groups who tend to always think about their rights, and never think about the rights of others.

I don’t think it’s a matter of their standards but more about their double standards. The call to repeal 230 was to hold double standards accountable.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby promethean75 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:19 am

Alright wendy I'm delighted that you've made the decision to become a communist. The first thing we need to do is understand the importance of labor and the spirit of work... as the fuser will demonstrate...
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:08 pm

promethean75 wrote:Alright wendy I'm delighted that you've made the decision to become a communist. The first thing we need to do is understand the importance of labor and the spirit of work... as the fuser will demonstrate...

Yeah, everyone runs their own business and works for themselves in good spirits. Employers, companies become outlawed and dismantled. Everyone is an independent contractor, labor will be governed directly by each individual in direct competition with all other individuals providing like services or goods. No government need exist.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby Meno_ » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:06 pm

Got to Wendy, having grown up in a communist party in my primary years, I can draw You up a litany of regrets and complaints in the enforced theft of all privately held equity, and forced into lifestyle changes not withstanding any reason or vestige.

The problem of social and political change in this direction, may compare with the double standard between those who view social change in terms of altering distribution of products , and / or, distribution of psychic capital- including that of changing the distribution of power.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby Meno_ » Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:33 pm

The reason for the double standard in Communism has everything to do with the base/ basis split, between socialism and communism on ideological terms.

The unresolved ideal and pragmatic distinction between the pure and the material dialectic - causes an uncontrollable effect leading to misunderstanding and eventuAl violance.

The capital/capitol conflation takes in more then just ephemeral values. Same as the intentively literal distinction between das ein and Dasein. So trite yet so easily missed
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:12 pm

Meno_ wrote:The reason for the double standard in Communism has everything to do with the base/ basis split, between socialism and communism on ideological terms.

The unresolved ideal and pragmatic distinction between the pure and the material dialectic - causes an uncontrollable effect leading to misunderstanding and eventuAl violance.

The capital/capitol conflation takes in more then just ephemeral values. Same as the intentively literal distinction between das ein and Dasein. So trite yet so easily missed

Actually it seems the double standard as either socialism or communism precipitates from the spiritually destitute, the victims of life, harboring an inferiority that manifests as all sorts of evil intentions to control and level the playing field.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:21 pm

Apple and Google have banished Parler curtailing the free legal speech guarantee. Amazon pulls Parler from their platform at midnight on Jan. 10th, 2021. Parler has announced they’ll be back online in one week hailing from a new platform.

Next week, my iphone will be retired.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:03 am

what kinda phone are u going to use? android is google
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:33 am

Hmmm, google is problematic. My forever phone will definitely be the Librem 5 USA which just went into production back in Nov., it’s pricetag is a hefty $1999 but that’ll probably drop as they fill all their pre release and back orders. Not sure what to do in the meantime, I’m tired of being tracked, tired of my privacy being sold out, tired of them profiting while they destroy my country.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:33 am

Navigating in a world where you subsidize the corporate overlords who are actually controlling your government thereby your civil liberties and privacy is going to be incredibly challenging, daunting ensuring you are cutting off their life blood when their tentacles stretch everywhere.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Jan 11, 2021 5:42 am

An article on zerohedge.com discussed the further rising costs of food which has been rising over the last seven months, not sure if the steady increases for that length of time are unprecented, but the article is shining a light on this trend. I can attest that lately there’s more and more steadily empty space on the grocery store shelves as well.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:44 am

that librem is 2k and only has 3gb of ram and 32gb storage? im reading the specs and it just sounds like a lot of marketing and like its really overpriced.

theyre pushing the whole "its secure and off grid" vibe but i mean u can get samsung s20 ultra and it has encryption and waaaay better specs for 1400.

i use a messaging app thats end to end encrypted and that uses servers that keep messages for less time than it would take to subpoena them, and no one has ever heard of it. its not signal, its not whatsapp, and it does not store the messages on the phone itself. the alabama bureau of investigation had my old phone for 2 and a half years and never got anything off it. i use android.

your phone is as secure as you want it to be. if you really encrypt all your shit, use burner email accounts for your android stuff, and dont mind giving up a bit of convenience then u can be pretty secure with android.

here is the phone that i have now. this describes some of the security measures in place with it.

https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/int ... %20attacks.

https://www.samsungknox.com/en/secured-by-knox
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:33 pm

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Postby WendyDarling » Mon Jan 11, 2021 3:45 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:that librem is 2k and only has 3gb of ram and 32gb storage? im reading the specs and it just sounds like a lot of marketing and like its really overpriced.

theyre pushing the whole "its secure and off grid" vibe but i mean u can get samsung s20 ultra and it has encryption and waaaay better specs for 1400.

i use a messaging app thats end to end encrypted and that uses servers that keep messages for less time than it would take to subpoena them, and no one has ever heard of it. its not signal, its not whatsapp, and it does not store the messages on the phone itself. the alabama bureau of investigation had my old phone for 2 and a half years and never got anything off it. i use android.

your phone is as secure as you want it to be. if you really encrypt all your shit, use burner email accounts for your android stuff, and dont mind giving up a bit of convenience then u can be pretty secure with android.

here is the phone that i have now. this describes some of the security measures in place with it.

https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/int ... %20attacks.

https://www.samsungknox.com/en/secured-by-knox

How is google unable to track you when they publish the code of the android language in the Galaxy and oversaw all the apps that are built to track you? The Librem sounds completely free of google code and has google blocking code on top of that. I do not care if the specs compete, I care if google or apple can profit off me, bottomline.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:37 pm

The Pinephone $199 Linux code, Google free.
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby WendyDarling » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:18 am

On the West coast, Antifa demanded a bookstore remove Andy Ngo’s book from the shelves and the bookstore complied. Are book burnings next?
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Re: Becoming Communist

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:24 am

do you want government to dictate what books a bookstore has to sell?

think of the bookstore owner as a baker, and the book as a gay wedding cake. the right wing went all the way to the supreme court to make it the law that the guy doesn't have to sell the cake, so...the other guy now doesn't have to sell the book.
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