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Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:26 am
by Jakob
I'm not actually in favor of giving people the tools and incentive to humiliate themselves, I have no hand in this whole game. And yes I realize you are more knowledgeable by birth about castes in practice. Amsterdam really is a very egalitarian city.

Im merely not content to sit by completely silently as I see it all unfold.
Just meant to warn people; dont be a fool about this kind of shit. Pay attention to what youre being asked to do to yourself. Maybe have a second thought what is really being asked of you.
Like, you know, Masonic grades.

Good luck to you too. Irrelevance is not one of your vices. Impatience very much so. Better than the reverse, eyh?

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:13 am
by Pedro I Rengel
Well, that's not completely unthinkable, considering in a sense they are your people, in the old sense of People. They are simply not mine. Their retard ninja masks only annoy me because of their strategic effect. It was the greatest coup ever concocted. And you did call it.

Just be careful the solutions you resort to. Egalitarianism has its vices as well.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:15 am
by Pedro I Rengel
And don't forget, your first people are the Hyperboreans.

So stop your goddamn player hating. And maybe listen once in a while.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:21 am
by Pedro I Rengel
Jakob wrote:Impatience very much so. Better than the reverse, eyh?


I hope to God.

(I know what you meant.)

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:52 am
by Pedro I Rengel

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 9:31 am
by Pedro I Rengel

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:12 pm
by perpetualburn
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Stalin's morality I like. He, and the people who in their hearts supported him, only had a very old code: that of the criminal element, which has always been the guardian angel of the poor. There is no idealism, simply fuck you we are taking your shit, and watching out for our own. So, koodos to him for stopping the bullshitting at the first level.

Fascists and nazis are queers, and you can tell, because they need to add an extra layer of bullshitting.



I always found the Nazi salute somewhat effete or "affected." Nevertheless, Germany in that period would of smashed the Soviets were it not for America. There are few things more dangerous than "idealism."

It's impressive I guess how the communists got away scot-free with genocide. America showed itself to either be cowards or complicit for not going in and crushing the Soviets after they got done with the Germans. Just another one of those things that the public has permanently memory-holed.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:52 pm
by Jakob
Pedro I Rengel wrote:And don't forget, your first people are the Hyperboreans.

So stop your goddamn player hating. And maybe listen once in a while.

Don't I??

I think I do.

I am Hyperborean, that is why a work like the Antichrist is so close to me that I cant even smell it, it is my own smell. It is even closer to me than Zarathustra because it doesnt wander or conjure, it just basks in the cleanliness of the hailstorm. There is nothing I love so much as the lightning. To be with an axe in the thunderstorm is the perfect being. The first being.

Perpetual --
It was Hoitlorrs decision to not learn from Bonaparte that defeated the national Socialists. The US lost the war to Hoitlorr in at least one gruesome sense, because it imported his sick doctors. Soviets never were as ruthless with themselves as that. Which is why they never became actually Marxists, globalists.

If Stalin hadnt destroyed Trotski, Communism would also have prevailed in Germany and Europe would have fallen.
Admittedly that phrase is too simple to sum up the whole complexity of that domino situation, but still.

Japan; If it wasnt for them, apart from drawing the Americans into the war, Russia would have had much more strength to spend on overrunning Europe.
It went the way it went. Certain nations profited immensely as empires turned to dust. The classical sense of greatness was finally obliterated. We went from a Greek to a Babylonian society.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:17 am
by Pedro I Rengel
The Germans and the Italians and Japanese were easy enemies to have, because they were so belligerent.

One way the Soviets prevented a continued world war, other than everybody was frankly broke and wanted done with it, is a way they would go on to win other conflicts during the Cold War as well: by maintaining a rhetoric of peace. Take Vietnam. A conflict the US could have easily won. The Vietcong won by emotional blackmail. Even today, their propaganda remains a success. "Oh there are just a bunch of farmers there, fighting to rule their own land, and some bad rich fat gringos went in out of arrogance and greed and just pure evil and started lighting them all on fire." And so they were able to do things like establish an "illegal" supply line through a neutral country while with a straight face accusing the US of breaking international law, and further blackmail the US into not investing the necessary resources.

People are idiots.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:18 am
by Pedro I Rengel
By the way that rhetoric of peace thing is also an old gangster trick.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:20 am
by Pedro I Rengel
They know they're lying, you know they're lying, you both know that you both know, but it still somehow works.

Because communists are shrewd enough to count on something that their enemies never quite dare to: the fact that people are idiots.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:45 am
by Pedro I Rengel
One big way it operates today is:

"This whole 'right' and 'left' thing is a fallacy, we got no beef with each other, and anyway what kind of dummy picks a 'side?'"

*Proceeds to deliver perfect communist spiel*

By the way it would take an unfathomable lack of knowledge of history to even question the right-left dichotomy.

Like do people think some asshole just woke up one day and wrote it on a book?

Goddamn people are idiots.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:46 am
by Pedro I Rengel
To be fair, it's not only idiocy that communists count on, but cowardice. Of course, one thing is a prerequisite for the other.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:50 am
by Pedro I Rengel
Most cases, if someone is a communist, they are:

A. A coward.

B. A coward and an idiot.

C. KGB

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:49 am
by Jakob
Pedro I Rengel wrote:They know they're lying, you know they're lying, you both know that you both know, but it still somehow works.

Because communists are shrewd enough to count on something that their enemies never quite dare to: the fact that people are idiots.

That's very true. Concisely, the crux of the problem in dealing with them. And their leaders (agitators) suspect or know that they themselves are idiots - and recoil from anyone who attempts to prove otherwise.

Thus, I suppose, Nietzsche advocates that the masses be allowed to be stupid and depraved.
There may not be a way out of that. Just a way out of them - this way out is represented by the symbol of the Superman; born out of the ooze of humanity, a tribe of superior sensibilities, a tribe smart enough not to interfere with the nature of that with respect to which it is elevated - its elevation depends on not interrupting the self-degradation of 'normal people'.

I can understand very well the nasty sterile effect of such observations. And I apologize.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:58 am
by Pedro I Rengel
No, the self-degradation we are seeing isn't of normal people, but of normal people who have learned to hate themselves, everything about themselves, their own instincts.

Nietzsche's message was much simpler: there is nothing wrong with being a normal person. Communism is the rebellion against being a normal person, not because of a process of overcoming, but hate.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:00 am
by Pedro I Rengel
Notice the naked hate against the "rednecks" and anybody even remotely poor that likes themselves.

The socialists hate the poor much more than they hate the rich. They don't actually mind the rich. They like Bill Gates.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:03 am
by Pedro I Rengel
A hard life, where you had to earn your living, is not a bad life. It is actually eminently enjoyable.

The depravity began when they began to be subsidized, when a new realm of expectations was born, where people were asked not to be themselves, called the middle class. Nobody enjoys middle class, and that's where all the suicides and mass shootings happen. It sucks. Because you are deprived the joys of poverty and are asked to aspire for things that you haven't the slightest interest in.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:04 am
by Pedro I Rengel
There is freedom in poverty, just like there is freedom in being rich. In fact one reason the actually poor are hated is that nobody can manage to tell them what to do. They are free, inside. It's middle class that is bondage.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:04 am
by Pedro I Rengel
Nazism was the masturbatory act of the middle class.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:05 am
by Pedro I Rengel
Socialism, even pre-Marxist socialism, was not created by the poor. It was created by academics.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:09 am
by Pedro I Rengel
If it was born among the poor, it was born among the failed poor, the pushovers, the ones that were weak and got picked on. There, Socrates is just waiting for the pickings.

Because, in case you didn't know, there is such a thing as successful poverty and unsuccessful poverty.

Just like there are successful rich, and unsuccessful rich. The unsuccessful rich are the academics who invented socialism.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:12 am
by Pedro I Rengel
To "what is good?" Nietzsche didn't answer "whatever has a lot of money" or "whatever is upper class." He wrote "whatever increases strength, the feeling of strength."

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:14 am
by Pedro I Rengel
But even the pushovers, the failed ones of any realm of life, are good to have. They provide contrast to a successful playa as much as a Nietzschean philosopher. Of course, if they take charge, then we have a problem.

Re: Pedro's Corner

PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:15 am
by Pedro I Rengel
Or sommat like that.