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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:25 am

Actually my breakthrough was learning there is no mathematical restraint. There is no need for mathematical control. If the lyrics are good, and if mine are good yours are the stuff of head abbots, you just rush through it and the meter makes itself.

Sure, I sound like a hysteric. But the flow was good, the metric. Because I simply left the entirety of it to the inborn structure of the rhymes, which I put so much effort into it's a wonder it never occurred to me before to just trust it. All that shit you said about pausing for this or that is bullshit.

Also that rapping you did in Uruzian Urizen you was sitting down cuz. So, shut up.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:27 am

There is no excuse for rapping like your idea of the ultimate message of rap is ennui.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:30 am

What I hear in your post isn't "we should try to start the project back up you and me."

What I hear is "I need absolute control." And yes, you do.

My point with the Ns is that one will not work without the other. One cannot function without the other met. And you'se about that NN age.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:33 am

In any case I find 50 Cent to be an incredible teacher of MCing.

Absurd how much skill is hidden under that stiff delivery.

South side till I die that's just how I get down.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:41 am

I guess a reason I would need a beat from you is that I'm guessing the next step is equally to trust the inbuilt structure, but spread out onto the beat. And that becomes very personal, I can't be trusting any old beat.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:43 am

Also when I heard Snoop Dog say he doesn't really consider Eminem part of the canon he lifted 100 lbs from me.

Fuck eminem.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:53 am

50 only really lasted for that one album because Lil Wayne came around, which means Southern rap finally broke through and took over. Which eventually became trap. It's greasy. Same land that gave us the blues.

Triple Six Mafia.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:55 am





Birdman is basically the southern P Diddy.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:56 am

Not Birdman what's that fucking dude's name.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:57 am

Yeah Birdman.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Feb 07, 2021 7:58 am

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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:36 am

Life. Who the hell has a good explanation?

See ya all on the flip side.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:09 am

It's not a choice,
It never was a choice.

Wise men say:
Freedom is not to have one.

What free men have is not choice,
But the shame of failing their responsibility.

But then again they can never fail their responsibility,
Because that would mean it ceases to exist.

I guess in an objective sense they can be said to fail,
But they will never find out about it.

It's not a choice,
It never was a choice.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby promethean75 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 1:01 pm

I don't understand.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby iambiguous » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:48 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:It's not a choice,
It never was a choice.

Wise men say:
Freedom is not to have one.

What free men have is not choice,
But the shame of failing their responsibility.

But then again they can never fail their responsibility,
Because that would mean it ceases to exist.

I guess in an objective sense they can be said to fail,
But they will never find out about it.

It's not a choice,
It never was a choice.


Yo, Meno! Explain this to us. 8)
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby promethean75 » Wed Feb 17, 2021 6:37 pm

Meno would be my choice for translator as well. I mean why not go all the way, right? Fuck it.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:35 am

Well that's the riddle of this age, isn't it?

The only way to be understood is to sound like an idiot. And then what can you really say? Catch 22.

I sympathize with Meno.

Nietzsche had the prerogative to write for the future. But there is no indication now that there will be any, in which anybody will ever understand anything remotely like that.

So you got two choices. You either dedicate yourself to the task of allowing such a future, or you find something worth giving it up for. In both cases you are likely to fail.

But what else are you gonna do? Write a novel?
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:47 am

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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:57 am

More on the subject of science and philosophy:

The scientific revolution, began in Italy in the Renaissance, began as a philosophic revolution. If you read works by Galileo, for example, he will always have a preface that lauds philosophy. If you had made to him the distinction, between philosophy and science, he would have blinked.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:17 am

It's a misconception, borne from the uneducated, that science has no philosophical content. Whereas, how do you come up with the scientific method? And once you have, because the method is negative, that is, about falsifiability, where do the ideas come from that you test? Where do you get the hypothesis? You need a positive postulation to negatively test. Like the atom, called the atom because it was discovered as part of a modern quest to to falsify the ancient philosophical concept called: the atom.

That's why it's called philosophy. What do you love, do you love your king? Your God? Do you love work? Conquest? Social justice?
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:19 am

that one book by that one guy kuhn about scientific revolutions it's a good one
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:28 am

Omg I actually read that one. Actually started reading it. Communist trash. It just applies Hegelian dialectic to science.

It has some decent psychology in it, but all it does is pepper a humongous communist ball of crap with some decent psychology. If he had just made a book about the psychology of science as a profession he might have made a decent book. But then who would have read it?

The greatest trick the devil Plato ever pulled is concvincing people that dialectics is 0 level perception of reality.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:30 am

promethean75 is a little more advanced than you. He considers Aristotle to be 0 level perception of reality.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:32 am

Aristotle, as much as he is a faithful disciple of Plato, is also a reaction of the philosophical old school.

Instead of rebeling against Plato, he says ok Plato is true, but how is Plato true in the old school philosophical sense of doing science and shit?
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:32 am

How does it apply to stuff?
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