Chesslings

[promethean75]

i'm on zynga chess as [email protected] i've got 84 wins, 28 losses, but that's probably because all i play are hot chicks who aren't incredibly skilled at chess (yet). but they're getting better, fast, so my stats might get worse.

the app is simple and user friendly... none of the complicated shit on all the other chess apps. one problem though; bugs cause games to corrupt and fall 'out of sync' often, rendering them unplayable. so you just start another one, no problem. not like your playing for money or anything.

[Pedro I Rengel]

But I don't want an app. I want a website. Don't make me download some shit.

[Pedro I Rengel]

Why not lichess.org?

It's open source, user friendly, visually nice. Magnus Carlsen is on it.

[Pedro I Rengel]

https://lichess.org/P0dAy0Mv/black

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 { C34 King's Gambit Accepted, King's Knight Gambit } Bc5 4. Bc4 h6 5. d4 Bb6 6. Bxf4 Nf6 7. e5 Nh5 8. Be3 g5 9. O-O d6 10. Nc3 Nc6 11. Bxf7+ Kxf7 12. Nxg5+ Kg6 13. Nf7 Qh4 14. Qd3+ Kg7 15. Nxh8 Kxh8 16. Bxh6 Bxd4+ 17. Kh1 Ng3+ 18. Qxg3 Qxh6 19. Ne4 Bxe5 20. Qh3 Bxh3 { White resigns. } 0-1

Goddamn that's satisfying.

I dunno what this obsession people have now with moving the C pawn AND castling king side is. But you know what? I'm for it. Go for it man.

[promethean75]

that game was a mess for both white and black. pieces advanced and left open without being defended, premature attacks with minor pieces which then get harassed by pawns and so have to retreat, sub-optimal positioning of bishops and knights (movement to squares where their attack range is reduced), unnecessary retreating when minor piece could have been defended (why move a bishop back from a knight attack when you can instead develop a pawn and defend the bishop), and finally that fatal blunder by white in losing the queen to that overlooked bishop... not to mention giving his bishop to the black king. i see what he was trying to do by luring the king to the f file with his bishop so to check with his rook and swipe a pawn with his knight... but all this was poorly thought out and a waste of a bishop. white became careless an restless.

did black win because black played well, or because white played badly?

anyway, white never moved the c pawn, so did you mean to say the f pawn? if so, and you mean to imply that castling king side while also moving the f pawn is dangerous... that can be true, but depending on the context of rest of the board.

also, white's castle was properly timed; the f file was then clear and open to the rook's control. he castled to mobilize that rook. one shouldn't castle until the board is opened and ready for rook movement. early castling is dangerous because the opponent can then concentrate his attack on that side of the board.

[Pedro I Rengel]

"that can be true, but depending on the context of rest of the board."

I keep hearing that, but I'm not exaggerating when I say that I win 8 out of 10 games when the opponent tries that. Including players that outrank me by 200 points, who otherwise I'd have a much harder time with. Just people trying to be clever, thinking short term gains can overcome overall game economy. All I gotta do is not freak out and I got 'em.

"that game was a mess for both white and black.'

I guess that's fair to say is my strategy. Give them no choice but to be messy. I have the advantage there because I understand much better underlying structures.

Super orderly games are boring and I don't have the energy for them. So I don't leave the enemy that option.

Works super well, I gotta tell ya. Like I said, this is a website that Magnus Carlsen takes seriously. And I consistently beat 1700+ players.

Same weakness the world all over has since Plato/Aristotle: overconfidence in the effectivness of academicism.

[Pedro I Rengel]

"I know it's technically a mistake, but I thought it out and integrated it into my game."

Cocky. I love 'em when they get like that.

My experience is that that is what separates 2000+ from under. The 2000 guys don't make mistakes FIRST, at least not on purpose if they know they can avoid it, they are first sane and reasonable and careful about overall economy, and THEN they consider strategy.

[Pedro I Rengel]

That;s why THEY can pull of being confident in advancing castled pawns. Only guys I see do it, and they do it annoyingly often, and they kill. Hot headedness is ultimately the best strategy, if you understand true structure, because it is like pure effectiveness +1/2, no time to figure out ways around. Straight to the center.

Fuck I hate those guys. Nah, I love 'em. Their ass is mine some day.

[Jakob]

https://lichess.org/P0dAy0Mv/black

1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 { C34 King's Gambit Accepted, King's Knight Gambit } Bc5 4. Bc4 h6 5. d4 Bb6 6. Bxf4 Nf6 7. e5 Nh5 8. Be3 g5 9. O-O d6 10. Nc3 Nc6 11. Bxf7+ Kxf7 12. Nxg5+ Kg6 13. Nf7 Qh4 14. Qd3+ Kg7 15. Nxh8 Kxh8 16. Bxh6 Bxd4+ 17. Kh1 Ng3+ 18. Qxg3 Qxh6 19. Ne4 Bxe5 20. Qh3 Bxh3 { White resigns. } 0-1

Some iron steels, good game.

I dunno what this obsession people have now with moving the C pawn AND castling king side is. But you know what? I'm for it. Go for it man.

I will stop doing that myself.

My highest rating I recently attained was 1845. I let it slip though, back at 1600 for the 10 minute games. In 5 minute games I am much worse.

[Jakob]

Promethean is of course far better at chess than Carlsen. We should be very grateful that he is in our midst.

[promethean75]

i doubt that. i have a very difficult time with short term memory and am unable to hold a picture of the board four to five moves in the future, in my head for very long. i see it for a brief moment, then lose it, and have to walk through the moves again in my head.

but thanks to Chernov and a relatively lengthy prison sentence, i was able to spend some time with the game and get to know it. i make a much better teacher than a player, as my knowledge of the fundamentals far exceeds my ability to play. this might not make sense to you.

[Jakob]

Of course it does man, youre better at unverified knowledge than at verified knowledge. Same with pollatikks.

[Jakob]

I mean you're exceptional at saying stuff with a tone of a school teacher. It's mostly nonsense but hey its knowistic to fucking cayre.

[promethean75]

Of course it does man, youre better at unverified knowledge than at verified knowledge.

i'm not sure if this is the part where you struggle to say something clever, or if you're just trying to take advantage of my modesty.

in any case that, too, is wrong. certain principles of the game are verified by the logic alone, and one wouldn't need to actually 'play them out' to understand them. moving the A pawn to 3 before bringing out the knight prevents the ruy lopez from pinning the knight against the king. one can acquire this knowledge reading about it or watching it happen, and wouldn't need to actually do it to verify its truth.

i didn't really need to just explain this to you, did i?

Same with pollatikks.

my pollatikks are very fied every time i put my bags on and go to woik.

I mean you're exceptional at saying stuff with a tone of a school teacher.

i dunno about all that. maybe it's because you feel like a student when you read my shit? if that's the case, i'm glad i could help.

[Jakob]

I feel exasperatingly bored, yes. How could you tell.

[Jakob]

Pezer why did we ever want to work with this vat of mediocrity?

[Jakob]

imagine being stuck with this guy in a war.

Hes hanging behind while we're under fire, checking his almanac , saying no no, there is no shooting here. My almanac doesn't know anything about it.

[Jakob]

it is actually very nice to know this is how socialists prepare for battle. By avoiding at all cost all forms of praxis.

[promethean75]

Pezer why did we ever want to work with this vat of mediocrity?

well i tried to show you years ago how your designer philosophy of VO was just a watered down recapitulation and mishmash of various failed ethics theories of the past, but you kept insisting you 'discovered' something extraordinary. then i was forced to watch in agony as you paraded around the forums trying to recruit yesmen who would placate your misguided sense of grandiosity. after a while i got better though and it no longer hurt. instead of cringing when i saw you somewhere, i'd just say to myself 'oh that's just jakob again, doing his thang, passing out brochures.'

but that's the fun of it, man! these forums give us a place to temporarily leave our ordinary, mediocre lives and pretend to be the superheros we've always wanted to be (wait a min... did i say 'us'? i didn't mean to include myself... sorry). there is nothing more adorable than watching a poster believe he's come upon an original idea and get all excited about it... without knowing that idea has been a dead duck for seventy years. it doesn't matter that serious philosophy was finalized a century ago...nobody is intent on doing serious philosophy anyway... so there's no loss here.

really though, as much as i know you'd like to think you and pezer's venture here is like some kind of formal philosophical expedition, unfortunately it's more like two highschool kids coming to crash a keg party. but don't get me wrong... like i said, that can be fun. even more fun if the crashers believe they're some kind of highly trained special ops team of intellectuals. that's quality stuff. i told you before i could make a comedy mini series out of these forums if i had a few investors.

[Pedro I Rengel]

"i didn't really need to just explain this to you, did i?"

No, because he tried it, tried not doing it, tried 100 variations of timing, accompanying structures, devising traps, hiding attacks. All sortsa.

But yeah, sure, that book thing sounds super fun too.

Specially unforgivable when you're talking about politics, people's lives and livelyhoods.

"But I read it in a book!"

Psheh.

Tell me the truth B, straight up. Would you or would you not love to rock some grillz? Maybe with your initials or "Ceci ne'st pas un grillz?"

Tell the fucking truth.

[promethean75]

what are 'grillz'? you mean gold teeth? no i don't think that will be necessary because i....

got toes look like chicken mcnuggets
went to vegas lost all but three duckets
start a post get a thread full of 'fuck its'

tighten up like brady in the third quarter
build a wall, mexicans at the boarder
grandma juanita was a newspaper hoarder
got a job at the hotel as a porter

[Pedro I Rengel]

Yo, got a job at the hotel as a porter
10 cents to the fam and another 90 for the Porter
Substantial amount of GDP generated by cheap gringo boarders
Meanwhile Juanita got raped before she could say "por favoro"

Before she could say "por favoro"
Pass me another Marlboro
I gotta light this fool up before he tells me more 'bout decorum

I come now and then to the ILP forum
Look for smart and sane but i never make quorum
Lazy ass lazy face lazy and porous
But I take a jab now and then to remind them there's oro

I take a jab now and them to remind them there's oro
While I dream of shanty shack days eating fororo
He don't know what that is, Mexicans just mor fodder
For the guilt trippy nanny state he so loves and ado-res

[promethean75]

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[Pedro I Rengel]

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0Z3ltNDF6Rj

[Pedro I Rengel]

Lol, no man, THIS is a mess.

https://lichess.org/yZ51M8txneWh

Untill the wzzorld learns how to BE in a mess, I will not be defeated.

And the only ones that know don't know philosophy or technology and shit. And Imma teach them. Stock markets and shit.

I almost feel sorry for y'all.

All your socialism shit is just the Man's last ditch attempt to prevent me from doing precicely this.

It's on cause it's on cause I say it's on.