Desperate Degenerate Support Group

[Costard]

Or... how is it not "crazy" when you just claimed to be the Thai ladyboy in your Avatar, in what, some lame attempt to catfish me?

Remember colonel that I never claimed anything, merely mirrored your persistent wishes that I was a transsexual. If you now see crazy, what does that make you?

[Urwrongx1000]

See how you keep projecting?

"It was youuuuuuu who wanted me to dress up as a Thai ladyboy!!!"

No, I didn't ask you to, but I appreciate the effort. If you were in fact the Thai ladyboy you posted, I might take you out for a nice date and dinner.

But who's the fag here? Me, being attracted to a feminine face? Or YOU, pretending to be a woman? I don't expect any further intellectual insights from you.

We can just let this settle for awhile.

[Costard]

If you were in fact the Thai ladyboy you posted, I might take you out for a nice date and dinner.

So you would go on a date with a ladyboy? Would you take the relationship any further? Since you called it a 'date' it sounds like you would.

[Costard]

Satyr is getting worried over there, anxious that one of his acolytes might be about to make an embarrassing admission, or through self-confusion expose something embarrassing about himself. Ha!

Remember old boy, like attracts like.... like attracts like.

[Ichthus77]

in other news:

opposites attract

in still other news:
opposites neutralize each other

in non-fake news:
complementarity is an irreducibly complex interplay of repelling and attracting toward greater or decreasing development of heavier elements

…which can be embarrassing. I know. And kinda gross.

[Costard]

opposites attract

True, but most often used to describe dynamics of interpersonal relationships. Unlikely to work as well in political groupings.

[Ichthus77]

If we focus on the things we have in common, celebrate complementary differences that fill in each other’s gaps, and run self=other as us=them, we will function like a well-oiled machine, or a threefold cord, except more like branches spreading out from a vine, especially if watered from the same source and open to mutual pruning toward upbuilding.

[Costard]

evolution - from first-person, to second-person and then third-person perspective.
This progressive sophistication is part of evolution. Next step would be to a fourth-person perspective, necessitating the evolution from a four-diemsional perception to five-dimensional perception...

First/second/third person are literary terms, they have nothing to do with evolution, or with space-time geometry.

An individual experiences this third-person perspective as an alien agency observing itself, from the vantage point outside space/time, or from some mysterious beyond - a nil space with no time, no change, therefore no need/suffering.
This is self-consciousness in its highest development as increasingly objective.
From this third-person perspective an individual can perceive itself, relative to other, as if he were perceiving two strangers.

Possible symptoms of a schizotypal/dissociative personality disorder.

[Ichthus77]

Sounds like “I AM that I AM” (self=other) Trinity to me. You don’t evolve to that…nor do you devolve away from or beyond it, but overflow from fullness. A whole infinite. There is one whole and we are subsumed in him/them in their image.

[Urwrongx1000]

Imagine how a dog feels to its owner. It might frustrate whatever rationality in its brain, to want to understand its master. It may even... consider itself "like them", identifying as a human. After all, why shouldn't it? It's "part of the family" after all. So it's equal to the human. Dog=Human.

Good Itch This, Good Costard

[ Pets your head ]

[Ichthus77]

You’re not a dog like us? Minds=Blown. Right, MagsJ?

[Costard]

Without the discriminating distinction between I/Other there is no life, no consciousness,

Life reduced to a semantic distinction. All feeling is expunged... as a way of escaping suffering.

[Ichthus77]

better to reinterpret the suffering than fail to recognize the sufferer

[Costard]

better to reinterpret the suffering than fail to recognize the sufferer

Descartes was according to sources a diminutive and sickly child, who apparently developed his major ideas whilst laying in a hospital bed listening to the other children playing outside. Did his dualist system provide him with some comfort and solace against a physical reality that he felt excluded from?

[Costard]

Order wills order, because order is deteriorating - linear space/time; ergo will wills willing, or itself.
This is what 'eternal return' means.
This description of existence makes choice essential to life - free-will- and it also validates the idea of cyclical existence - even if it does not make eternal return of the same, a certainty.

Magical thinking, or superstitious thinking,[1] is the belief that unrelated events are causally connected despite the absence of any plausible causal link between them, particularly as a result of supernatural effects. Examples include the idea that personal thoughts can influence the external world without acting on them, or that objects must be causally connected if they resemble each other or have come into contact with each other in the past.[1][2][4] Magical thinking is a type of fallacious thinking and is a common source of invalid causal inferences.[3][5] Unlike the confusion of correlation with causation, magical thinking does not require the events to be correlated.

In particular, Freud noted that magical thinking was found in those with arrested emotional development (this is central to personality disorder problems, triggered by parental neglect and/or abuse in infancy and childhood (birth-18 years old)). We shall see that this is a common factor amongst members of KTS, who despite being grown men hold irrational beliefs about the world and frequently indulge in childish language and slurs against those who do not share the immature ideology of their 'gang'.

[Costard]

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[Ichthus77]

I don’t visit KTS enough to know the arguments, but psychoanalysis is not a counterargument.

[Costard]

I don’t visit KTS enough to know the arguments, but psychoanalysis is not a counterargument.

I think it is a useful tool when dealing with those who indulge in magical thinking.

[Ichthus77]

Have you tried good arguments & evidence?

See also: https://ilovephilosophy.com/viewtopic.p ... 6#p2900746

[Costard]

Have you tried good arguments & evidence?

Futile against this level self delusion. The material reality is shoe horned to fit the agenda, when the predictions fail to materialize the can is kicked down the road.

[Ichthus77]

What agenda/predictions?

[Costard]

What agenda/predictions?

The ones they make. I've given examples in this thread.

[Ichthus77]

Oh, sorry. Unless I already replied to it, I probably didn’t see it.