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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:37 pm

We used to live in an age of individuals, and those who in their hearts were part of a collective had a bad time. Now we live in an age of collective, and those who in their hearts are individuals will have a bad time. It is not, on its face, unfair.

Eventually, individuals will rise again. The tragedy is that they will not have the benefit of the inheritance of the accumulated wisdom of this dying age of individuals. They will start from scratch.

Not that there isn't any hope, period. And many of us will go down swinging. But the odds are not good.

And, of course, Nietzsche may have been right. We may have seen the last dancing star. But it is still, on its face, not unfair.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Meno_ » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:05 pm

Pedro says:

"It is not, on its face, unfair"


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meno says :

"The fairness of the individual lost in a commune does rarely present a fair face"
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Fri Oct 29, 2021 10:30 pm

Here's a poem
A poem with blood and omens
Shoot first and ask questions of the corpses
Pretend to be dying while you fondle the nurses
Life is good, not all is bad
A collection of fruit and child's dreams on a slab
Take a stab at undressing her
But all the while I'm just thinking of Mehico
Sun swinging down like a pendulum picking up initiates like Remulus
Remember the time you said my miracles were strenuous?
I sense a tide rolling over all the pensive pentacles
My tentacles
My sensual collectibles
And sensibly discerning like a son of Alcibiadus
My priapus
Is telling all the ladies I'm agreeable
But deep inside the cages are my vehicles
Ready to relay the message "it's forseeable"
Step into my office I wax lyrical
And police never find me, apolitical
Bring the salad bowl
All my mates are spread around assembling catapults
No, I'm not a legend, I'm a manifold
Archanimal
Send for my 11 I'm in cantankerous
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:52 am

I eat the cheese
Nothing to sneeze
Check out these bees
I'm crossing my T's
I'm crossing the street
Holding your teeth
Holding the beef
I squish it indeed
I'm surfing the seas
I'm riding a steed
Correcting the method
I'm starting a creed
They know me in Bali
They know me in Leeds
My life is a breeze
The bitches are peas
And I am a pond
They're making me wheeze
A house in Belize
Bitch nigga please
Get lost in the weeds
Got scabs on her knees
I stab a police
For messing with me
I'm Ali Baba
I'm perched on a tree
Fantastically
Spitting prophecy
Oh my, oh me
This acrimony
This matrimony
Between fate and me
No you don't know me
You just wish you did
My thoughts are obscene
Got whores on my deed
These bitches are special
They making me bleed
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Sun Oct 31, 2021 9:45 pm

They're making me bleed
These bitches are special
100 degrees
100 corrections
An addict: disease
Polemic ovation
Poetic with ease
I perspirate grease
I put it on Jeeves
Put X on her feed
Put eggs on my steak
Or else I might break
Another of these
Poor fuck enemies
I'm your inner me
I'm urine in mead
I'm curing your breed
I'm spurious need
I'm serious
Pussy in a bowl
I eat it like cereal
You're pussy, I'm bored
I kill you like serial
She says I'm mercurial
Said no, I'm imperious
Put it in my drawer
And go hit the streets again
Swinging my sword
I'm making that history
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:35 am

there's an old rap group from the 90s called brotha lynch hung, that had 1 hit called "rest in piss" that you should check out. the shit is raw af.
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.


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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:41 pm

Ingmar Bergman: Over-hyped moralist or avant-garde artiste?

I am downloading two movies to further debate this:

Cries and Whispers

Fanny and Alexander
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Mon Nov 01, 2021 10:19 pm

Every girl has the fantasy of being a whore, but few actually have the bravery.

That is why the philosopher Suga Free says that it is the ho that chooses you. You can't make a person brave, and you can't force a brave person to do anything. Of course, you can blackmail or extort a girl into selling her body, but that is not what a whore is.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:32 am

Started with Fanny and Alexander. My heart is kinda breaking at how good it is. Had to pause it. Though that does happen often these days, acid-induced ADD someone said once.

The beautiful thing about Bergman is that, at his peak, here as in Wild Strawberries, and even 7th Seal, he seems to be saying: "it doesn't matter whether I'm moralist or not, because life is beautiful."
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:34 am

In terms of pure crisp cinema, though, this is by far so far his best. I suspected he would be the kind to get better as he got older.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Mr Reasonable » Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:57 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Every girl has the fantasy of being a whore, but few actually have the bravery.

That is why the philosopher Suga Free says that it is the ho that chooses you. You can't make a person brave, and you can't force a brave person to do anything. Of course, you can blackmail or extort a girl into selling her body, but that is not what a whore is.



gotta keep those hos in line that's what they need. like a dog needs a bowl of food and some water. like a plant needs sunshine and rain. a ho must be kept in line in order to thrive as a ho.
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.


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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Nov 02, 2021 7:04 am

Alright, on to part 2 of the movie.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby iambiguous » Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:49 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Every girl has the fantasy of being a whore, but few actually have the bravery.

That is why the philosopher Suga Free says that it is the ho that chooses you. You can't make a person brave, and you can't force a brave person to do anything. Of course, you can blackmail or extort a girl into selling her body, but that is not what a whore is.



gotta keep those hos in line that's what they need. like a dog needs a bowl of food and some water. like a plant needs sunshine and rain. a ho must be kept in line in order to thrive as a ho.


Okay, I'm back at the Corner. Why you might be wondering.

It's Mr. Reasonable's thoughts about women of all things.

Now, Smears, as far back as I can remember, has always expressed the ideological prejudices of those on the left end of the political spectrum. In regard to the role of government and race and law and order and most everything else that comes up "on the news" he usually swings from the left side of the plate on the Society, Government, and Economics board.

But it has always struck me that his attitudes toward women were rather, say, reactionary?

Or is it just the "ho" here?

There are women who are not whores. Does he separate them out and embrace the standard liberal agenda here in regard to, say, feminism and women's rights?

What's this thing of his with the "ho"?

I'm just curious.

Look at his signature:

You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.

Dating a stripper is like eating a noisy bag of chips in church. Everyone looks at you in disgust, but deep down they want some too.


Women who do "sex work". He seems preoccupied with them. And with pimps especially.

Now, of course, his reaction to them [and to this post] will be deeply rooted in dasein. And I, myself, being fractured and fragmented in regard to all "conflicting goods", am not able to pass judgment on anyone's attitude about women. I don't believe that there is an objective morality here -- the politically correct frame of mind -- because I don't believe there is a moral/political font that establishes one.

Well, "here and now" anyway.

I'm just curious about it is all.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Tue Nov 02, 2021 11:42 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Ingmar Bergman: Over-hyped moralist or avant-garde artiste?

I am downloading two movies to further debate this:

Cries and Whispers

Fanny and Alexander



O....k, now it's time for Cries and Whispers.

Jesus Christ was Fanny and Alexander good. I have no doubt it will remain his opus.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:44 am

In his heart, Mr R is a decent guy. He is a reactionary at bottom. He's just having some issues dealing with the university brainwashing he underwent. He thinks he has to hate black people in order to love freedom and be proud of his heritage. Ironically, he does believe black people are inferior because they were genetically bred to be inferior by forced labour traders. But that's not really him, that's just the elite white boy university brainwashing.

You see, if you want to own a woman, you are a trick. A pimp must think of himself as a conduit. That's why the philosopher Suga Free also says the first thing you have to do is get right with God. You don't own that bitch. She is a beautiful creation of God.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby iambiguous » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:14 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:In his heart, Mr R is a decent guy. He is a reactionary at bottom. He's just having some issues dealing with the university brainwashing he underwent. He thinks he has to hate black people in order to love freedom and be proud of his heritage. Ironically, he does believe black people are inferior because they were genetically bred to be inferior by forced labour traders. But that's not really him, that's just the elite white boy university brainwashing.

You see, if you want to own a woman, you are a trick. A pimp must think of himself as a conduit. That's why the philosopher Suga Free also says the first thing you have to do is get right with God. You don't own that bitch. She is a beautiful creation of God.


As a philosopher, you'll make a great poet. 8)
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:37 am

iambiguous wrote:Okay, I'm back at the Corner. Why you might be wondering.


No, nobody was wondering.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:23 am

But I be wandering
I be squandering a pondering
On a flower that is over me
Hanging from a tree like it's adoring me
Perfume envelopes me with smells of bitter sweet
That's the rot that's setting in arousing me
Life and death in symphony enrapturing with clarity
A tiger lies nearby and insects traveling
At any moment this might all just end for me
Another orgiastic noise in the cacophony
All will feel it, none of them will cry for me
So is heaven, this I can attest to thee
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Mr Reasonable » Wed Nov 03, 2021 3:23 pm

he doesn't get it. its dasein, which basically means that he's wrong. and that im right, as long as i say i might be wrong.
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.


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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby iambiguous » Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:00 pm

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
iambiguous wrote:Okay, I'm back at the Corner. Why you might be wondering.


No, nobody was wondering.


On the contrary, you yourself commented on it above. Unless of course you're less than nobody.

I know: why don't you write a really, really clever "postmodern" poem about him and the whores. 8)
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby iambiguous » Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:16 pm

Mr Reasonable wrote:he doesn't get it. its dasein, which basically means that he's wrong. and that im right, as long as i say i might be wrong.


No, seriously, forget about trying to just be clever here. As with Pedro, you're no good at that.

I am genuinely curious about this distinction you seem to make.

And how on earth could your attitudes towards hos and pimps not be profoundly embedded subjectively/subjunctively in dasein -- in the life that you lived predisposing you to think this instead of that?

Again, from my frame of mind, there is no Right and Wrong way in which to think about them. There are only personal opinions derived from the manner in which I construe human identity in the is/ought world here: https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/viewtop ... 1&t=176529

No way am I saying that those who don't think like you are right. My interest is more in how people come to think what they do about things like this in a world in which -- scientifically, philosophically, theologically -- there does not appear to be way to know for sure how all rational and virtuous men and women are obligated to think about them.

You'll either put all the bullshit between us aside and go there or you won't.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:32 pm

Y'all are starting to bore me, man.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Pedro I Rengel » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:11 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:
Pedro I Rengel wrote:Ingmar Bergman: Over-hyped moralist or avant-garde artiste?

I am downloading two movies to further debate this:

Cries and Whispers

Fanny and Alexander



O....k, now it's time for Cries and Whispers.

Jesus Christ was Fanny and Alexander good. I have no doubt it will remain his opus.


I don't wanna watch it now. The taste that Fanny and Alexander left is too good. It's too risky.
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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:16 am

why does he think i'm trying to be clever? what if im just typing what i think? not everyone goes around trying to be things.
You see...a pimp's love is very different from that of a square.


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Re: Pedro's Corner

Postby Mr Reasonable » Thu Nov 04, 2021 6:17 am

Pedro I Rengel wrote:Y'all are starting to bore me, man.



have you seen gummo? it's some bizarro shit. from this guy. some kind of fucked up visionary. some people think it's hard to watch. but you should. you can't unsee it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmony_Korine
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