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Postby perpetualburn » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:36 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:As far as rap being dead, lets take a moment:






And of course



Why don't you like AOTP again? It's hard, lyrically driven with good beats
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Apr 28, 2021 5:58 pm

Why you say I don't like Army of Pharaos? I went to a concert even.

Yes they have very hard sound. Rare crew that has a hard sound with a spiritual message. Like Gravediggaz.
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby MagsJ » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:12 pm

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I can’t say that any of the latest posted videos are to my taste, except for DMX and Mobb Deep.. the rest, nah! =;
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:33 pm

You dont like the Onyx and GZA tracks?
Thats just wrong.

Since you are a woman, you are excused. I dont wanna hear that crap from any males though.
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby MagsJ » Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:32 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:You dont like the Onyx and GZA tracks?
Thats just wrong.

Since you are a woman, you are excused. I dont wanna hear that crap from any males though.

I am an Onyx fan, but nothing too soft from them..

Gza, depends what he’s saying.. just like with all the Rap I like, as it’s about the track not the Rapper.
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:52 pm

Are you saying this is soft?



If so you are one hard fuckinging lady. And please post a track thats harder. Its one of the hardest tracks Ive ever heard.

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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby MagsJ » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:18 pm

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I’m in a Zoom hustings.. will post an Onyx vid after.
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby perpetualburn » Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:14 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Why you say I don't like Army of Pharaos? I went to a concert even.

Yes they have very hard sound. Rare crew that has a hard sound with a spiritual message. Like Gravediggaz.


Would of swore we had an exchange a ways back where you said didn't like them... But can't find it... All's well then...
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby MagsJ » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:41 pm

Fixed Cross wrote:Are you saying this is soft?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXW6cEM3FtQ

If so you are one hard fuckinging lady. And please post a track thats harder. Its one of the hardest tracks Ive ever heard.

FUCK COCAINE NIGGA I SNIFF GUNPOWDER

Stil makes me laugh every time

It’s not so much the words but the attitude, that I meant.

I have a small selection of CDs that I’ll need to go through, to re-jog my memory of names of Artists.. it’s been a very long while.
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

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The first ones I posted I really admire but these too are quite nice. I realize these are probably my favorite dutch rappers, from a town slightly to the north of my own clan in "West Frysia"
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby perpetualburn » Mon May 03, 2021 2:39 am

Fixed Cross wrote:


I like this one. It's funny, I probably love the Netherlands more than any other European country, but whenever I hear the Dutch language I'm like "What the flying fuck is this, What is this strange exotic language" ... at 1:15 I swore he was gonna start rapping in English... Then I hear one those Hebrew like guttural sounds...Other than the guttural sounds though, I think it sounds closer to English than to German.
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Mr Reasonable » Mon May 03, 2021 8:11 am

method man and redman did an album together called blackout and the whole thing is the shit
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby MagsJ » Mon May 03, 2021 10:16 am

Mr Reasonable wrote:method man and redman did an album together called blackout and the whole thing is the shit

Thanks Mr R, that reminded me.. @Fixed.. that’s the style of Rap, of Redman and of other similar artists, that is my preferable sound.. rare for a female, I’ve been told.. but I’ve never fitted, into any one mould.

N.O.R.E. is another similar artist, to he, that was always on my playlist. Also Smif n Wessun, Sunz of Man, and others in the same ilk, but only some of their tracks not all of their tracks, mind.
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby MagsJ » Mon May 03, 2021 10:21 am

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Now we’re talking.. :D

The first more than the second, tho the second’s ok.. The Opposites have gained themselves a new fan. ; )

Fixed Cross wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euUazEIzc0k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTkRehr3iGI

The first ones I posted I really admire but these too are quite nice. I realize these are probably my favorite dutch rappers, from a town slightly to the north of my own clan in "West Frysia"

Fixed Cross wrote:Are you saying this is soft?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXW6cEM3FtQ

If so you are one hard fuckinging lady.

:D I grew up in the heart of London Town, where no-one ever mistook me for any clown, don’t mess aroun.. tho I don’t mind em being sent in, coz they’ve always been entertainin..
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

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Let me call on an American for a second.

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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue May 04, 2021 2:22 am

A lot happened before it got to the level of the Opposites.

This is the first rap song that came out in the country, the Osdorp Posse with Moordenaar



I can hardly expect anyone to listen through this all the way. He's talking about robbing the tram or rather killing everyone in it and raping the rest because he was asked for his ticket, which he was insulted to have been expected to possess. It was extremely funny when it came out and actually still is, completely ridiculous and with a hard beat.

The Osdorp Posse ended up becoming a successful act that kept developing for twenty years. They had to quit at their peak because they kept peaking and they were getting tired in middle age of all the bruises and bleeding noses they were waking up with after shows.



I was on stage at the open mic they did at the end of shows once rapping my cousins lyrics, some guys from there crew helped me out when I was slipping half a bar in a complex verse, they all knew his lyrics because he was considered the best rapper of the Netherlands and had been signed by their label for several different albums... as I've told often I guess. All that exists of his music is very primitive recordings I did in my basement with him which got the attention of the OP and some songs he did with a medium clever producer in another basement... Def P, the leader of the Osdorp Posse, was quite pissed off at him for having ended like that, ruined what could have been the best thing ever.

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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue May 04, 2021 10:29 pm

He basically died inside of his own artwork.

In which we were all entranced.


Shaman... dark class shaman.





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this is the last beat I ever made on which he rapped.
I have the rap still somewhere on a cd, Zeroeth Nature is on there too with a prophetic text.

All of our texts were prophetic.


Now, rap is different.
It has gone from the hyperreal to the unreal masquerading as real, causing reality to adapt to the unreal.
This is how nature works.
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Fixed Cross » Tue May 04, 2021 10:43 pm



Full Album

Still depressing though this racism that's so natural in otherwise really decent rap. Im through with this "the white man did this" crap. I didn't do that shit to you broseph. You're doing it to me and getting rich off it.

But really great album.

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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Sculptor » Tue May 04, 2021 10:58 pm

Rap is commie music.
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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Fixed Cross » Wed May 05, 2021 9:55 pm

Yes, boomer, the love of money and individual glory is clearly communistic.

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Re: Rap is Dead. Change my mind.

Postby Fixed Cross » Thu May 06, 2021 3:18 am

Ok so this was satire, I understand now. Makes more sense.

I didn't catch that.

So now I replied ignorantly to your mention that it was satire thinking it was the thread you said it in that you referred to.

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