Where does art come from?

[Alf]

Just an example:

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Is that art?

[surreptitious75]

Art is simply how an artist perceives the world at any given time. The only limitation is imagination but beyond that nothing so
anything labelled as art is art regardless of anything else. And it comes from the mind or the soul [ the non metaphysical type ]

[Alf]

Just an example:


Is that art?

Art is simply how an artist perceives the world at any given time. The only limitation is imagination but beyond that nothing so
anything labelled as art is art regardless of anything else. And it comes from the mind or the soul [ the non metaphysical type ]

So the art object above "tells" us that a certain artist who perceives the decline.

[Arminius]

Just an example:


Is that art?

Art is simply how an artist perceives the world at any given time. The only limitation is imagination but beyond that nothing so
anything labelled as art is art regardless of anything else. And it comes from the mind or the soul [ the non metaphysical type ]

So the art object above "tells" us that a certain artist who perceives the decline.

Perceiving this (?):

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[Alf]

Just an example:


Is that art?

Art is simply how an artist perceives the world at any given time. The only limitation is imagination but beyond that nothing so
anything labelled as art is art regardless of anything else. And it comes from the mind or the soul [ the non metaphysical type ]

So the art object above "tells" us that a certain artist who perceives the decline.

Perceiving this (?):

It's a perceived decline. So yes.

[Alf]

The earliest human cave painting is about 40000 years old. And the human internet picture I posted above is about 4 days old.

From "Cave Painting" to "Portable Network Graphics".

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[Arminius]

Are you suggesting that this devolopment of fourty thousand years has only been a degeneration?

[Alf]

Yes and no.

I mean there has been a good development, but not always. There has been both progress like sunrise and regress like sunset.

[Arminius]

Yes and no.

I mean there has been a good development, but not always. There has been both progress like sunrise and regress like sunset.

You are speaking of a cycle.

[Alf]

Yes and no.

I mean there has been a good development, but not always. There has been both progress like sunrise and regress like sunset.

You are speaking of a cycle.

Yes, if you want.

[Alf]

I mean, if you look at the following two pictures again and think about art history:

The earliest human cave painting is about 40000 years old. And the human internet picture I posted above is about 4 days old.

You will probably find very artful times and nearly artless times between them , won't you?

[Alf]

And now, think of the question of this thread (again):

Where does art come from?

[Arcturus Descending]

Just an example:

i_t_a.jpg

Is that art?

If it affects you in some way, if it speaks or reveals the truth of something, even if only one's own subjective truth, if it causes you to question life or to see something differently, from another angle, it is Art, to me.


I can say that Art comes from the psyche.

Art is ALSO an image of the self trying to express and to make sense of the world around us.

I wouldn't have that on my wall - art is a personal preference - but it is very thought provoking and also poignant to me.
It can make one wonder what it is/was that the artist is trying to say? That could be different for everyone.
Things are not always to be taken at face value.
Delving into a particular work of art can be like an archaeological dig - much to be revealed.

Perhaps it came from the same place that philosophy came from...simply put, trying to figure things out. lol

[Kathrina]

Art comes from the soul.

[Alf]

Art comes from the soul.

Do you mean a culture soul?

[surreptitious75]

it comes from the mind or the soul [ the non metaphysical type ]

[Kathrina]

it comes from ... the soul [ the non metaphysical type ] .

I mean the metaphysical type.

[Alf]

it comes from ... the soul [ the non metaphysical type ] .

I mean the metaphysical type.

Do you think that this metaphysical type is the motor not only for art as one cultural appearance, but also for all other cultural appearances?

[Kathrina]

it comes from ... the soul [ the non metaphysical type ] .

I mean the metaphysical type.

Do you think that this metaphysical type is the motor not only for art as one cultural appearance, but also for all other cultural appearances?

Yes. The metaphysical soul is just one of the reasons why I joined ILP.

[Arcturus Descending]

it comes from ... the soul [ the non metaphysical type ] .

I mean the metaphysical type.

What is the *other* type of soul - you mentioned the "metaphysical type"?

[Kathrina]

it comes from ... the soul [ the non metaphysical type ] .

I mean the metaphysical type.

What is the *other* type of soul - you mentioned the "metaphysical type"?

There is no other type. So, I didn't mention that there was one. Surreptitious did. So, ask him.

[Arcturus Descending]

Katrina said:

I mean the metaphysical type.

What is the *other* type of soul - you mentioned the "metaphysical type"?

There is no other type. So, I didn't mention that there was one. Surreptitious did. So, ask him.

You saying "I mean the metaphysical type" suggests that you see another type.

If you used the word *psyche* belonging to all aspects of the human being or Self, then I might agree with you that art can come from that soul.
But that isn't necessarily eternal.

[Kathrina]

I don't see another type.

Again:

it comes from ... the soul [ the non metaphysical type ] .

Ask Surreptitious.

[Arminius]

So, okay, then. Alf's question must be answered now. Right?

Art belongs to culture.
Culture is based on a soul.
Thus art is also based on a soul.

Alf's question:

Where does art come from?

The answer:

"Art comes from a soul".

Is that right, Alf?

[Alf]

So, okay, then. Alf's question must be answered now. Right?

Art belongs to culture.
Culture is based on a soul.
Thus art is also based on a soul.

Alf's question:

Where does art come from?

The answer:

"Art comes from a soul".

Is that right, Alf?

Yes, it is.